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06 Feb 2016 18:25:52
I bet Murf put a fiver on Stoke to win 3-0 :-)

{Ed025's Note - love it dags..

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06 Feb 2016 19:05:16
Haha I wish I thought of that Dags very good mate.

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06 Feb 2016 19:17:29
Even you now eh Dags, I know i'm the jinx now ha ha, not bet on last 3 matches and we've won all 3, defo me.

{Ed025's Note - jonah.. :)

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06 Feb 2016 19:24:10
Yea Degs enough don't bet on your own team or else lol.

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06 Feb 2016 20:03:22
Murff get in lad well done putting bet on stoke 😂😂😂.

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06 Feb 2016 20:17:36
Haha Pb he is a whooper mate lol poor lad has been killing us he is the jinx lol only messing Degs, but seriously mate don't bet on us to win again give us chance haha.

{Ed025's Note - have you seen "lucky man" on tv stef?..well dags is the exact opposite mate.. :)

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06 Feb 2016 20:27:30
Love it Ed haha.

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06 Feb 2016 22:12:38
Sorry Murf :-)

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06 Feb 2016 22:23:23
Think murf bet on the last arsenal match though dags.damn unlucky sod ain't he lol

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06 Feb 2016 23:22:48
You could be right Dentie, lol.

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06 Feb 2016 10:00:18
Ed025, Any news on the work permit for Niasse? Newcastle can get there's done the very next day for Doumbia, surely we should of had all this in place and ready to go soon as he signed. Why does everything we do drag on and on?

{Ed025's Note - i have not heard yet jimmy, but martinez has said he is not match fit. sounds like an excuse in case poor administration of our club messes up again mate..

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06 Feb 2016 13:17:48
My thoughts exactly ed I have heard we have upto 15 mins before ko for it to go through but I'm thinking its Saturday today not exactly office hours don't know if that will effect it or not

By the way ed a won last night into the semis I go
That will be as far as I get though the fella I'm playing next is like Phil fkn taylor.

{Ed025's Note - im made up for you liam, well done mate..i think you will win that semi in a david v goliath fashion because a blue never knows when hes beaten..

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06 Feb 2016 13:58:03
Cheers ed that's the spirit mate!
I'll just put me big dunc head on the ref is from my old club so he might let me grab him by the wind pipe till squeals like a pig.

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06 Feb 2016 14:58:45
Good luck in the match Liam, if he's like Phil Taylor he may have a wobble!

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06 Feb 2016 15:00:00
Well done Blueliam. Stay positive for the semi. He's prob saying the same about you!

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06 Feb 2016 15:23:04
Toffee nbtb thanks very much lads.

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06 Feb 2016 19:02:26
good luck la you will win, the visa has all been sorted evertons end they sent all info yesterday morning, why it took them that long is strange, but there just waiting on the go ahead he will defo will be in squad against west brom he will start on the bench Martinez will be bringing him on for 20mins as part of his training program obviously if things change threw the week he could start but won't play for 90 mins.

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06 Feb 2016 19:49:48
Yeah BlueLiam. All the best mate.

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05 Feb 2016 23:40:22
interesting to read jags is are best passer of the ball this season most accurate I must say, all stats from 4-4-2 mag.

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06 Feb 2016 00:12:21
Passing between him and the goalie, his centre-back partner, the full-back outside him, or a defensive midfielder (usually Barry) might give Jagielka the best passing record, but they're hardly defence-splitting, chance-creating, match-winning passes.

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06 Feb 2016 08:54:42
Jags is a central defender, we don't want him playing defence-splitting, chance-creating or match-winning passes!

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06 Feb 2016 09:54:23
bluebrum: it'd be great if he could, but I agree that he's a defender first and foremost. My intended point was that the individual passing stats are pretty much meaningless - just as are a team's possession-percentage stats. All that really counts is that as a team we create plenty of chances and score plenty of goals AND limit the opposition's chances and don't concede goals. Results - wins and points- are surely what matter. Expansive, entertaining, imaginative, attacking football is a bonus - albeit great to watch and enjoy.

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06 Feb 2016 10:19:57
Id like to see him top of any clean sheet related stats tbh.

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06 Feb 2016 19:30:29
the reason I said what I said was everyone bangs on about stones's passing and that is his strong attribute well to me this speaks volumes that he hasn't brought much to the team this season no matter how you pass it its got to make your team mate to start something and players are rated by there stats and most of the time stats are included in contracts by agents so its a massive part of the game.

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06 Feb 2016 23:38:23
Fair enough muff. Still fancy holding onto Stones. As I said before Stones has 10+ years. Jags ain't going to go forever.

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05 Feb 2016 23:02:22
So is it the same guy who is negotiating the Sale is also sorting out Niasse work permit?

Really. come on!

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05 Feb 2016 17:46:36
See we, re live on tv, sat 20th 17.15 OK v Bournemouth in the cup.

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05 Feb 2016 13:51:40
Ay ed talk sport saying that a major major announcements at some point today

You know what I'm thinking

Any ideas what they are?

{Ed025's Note - not a clue liam, i dont want to speculate mate as we have been here before, lets just hope its good news..

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05 Feb 2016 14:16:38
Where is the link to this?

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05 Feb 2016 14:37:02
No link mate a was listening to it in the car I've heard it twice now lanny.

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05 Feb 2016 14:50:36
Oh sound mate! I'm in Aussie atm so hopefully good news when I wake up!

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05 Feb 2016 15:15:14
Hope you no how lucky are lanny not missing much here kid

Gudaay mayte.

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05 Feb 2016 15:49:02
Hope it's not bad news about Bill.

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05 Feb 2016 15:55:32
Can't see nothing anywhere about a big announment, even been on talk sport site and Twitter, not doubting you mate just thinking if it was only on talk sport and nowhere else is reporting it then probably nothing to get excited about! Would love to be wrong though.

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05 Feb 2016 10:38:42
Just passing it on.

People on the Everton app saying yanks are at finch farm.

Some also saying niasse work permit still
Not done.

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05 Feb 2016 11:11:24
Well half of that info has already been confirmed by the Manager this morning.

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04 Feb 2016 20:54:46
what do people think about brian Oviedos comments about us not coping with been in the league cup and its distracted us from performing in the prem my first thoughts was don't we ever learn from are mistakes.

{Ed025's Note - im not having that muff, i remember peter reid i think it was saying they loved playing more games as they cut back on the training mate..that makes sense to me..

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04 Feb 2016 21:25:22
Can't help thinking though Ed025 that Oviedo's comments maybe somewhat influenced by his injury history. As an addendum I believe Oviedo to be one of our better players. I would play Oviedo at LWB with either Baines or Garbutt behind him.

{Ed025's Note - then he should have really stated that his opinion was based on that rather than incriminating the rest of the squad for me DM..

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04 Feb 2016 21:39:46
spot on ed025 me thinks what he says is a lack of mentality and shows Martinez isn't drumming it into them just think bobby is a weak manager and far to soft, his comment of we showed a true team performance of game management made me laugh its one game try winning two or three on the trot then say that, its as if one win is enough he just duznt keep the team on there toes enough for me and let's them slack off which brings in the inconsistency so so frustrateing, I wonder if he's ever bollocked them, I doubt it.

{Ed025's Note - i think thats why the catterick,s, fergusons,s and shankley,s of this world were so successful muff, they took no nonsense mate..

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04 Feb 2016 21:46:15
Fair enough. He wouldn't say it but I would and just perhaps it has something to do with the numpty we are stuck with. Up to 11th now (progress) .

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04 Feb 2016 22:01:02
even kendall had his moments, brian clough was a master of keeping his players on there toes, dunc agree think Oviedo is a very good player prob would of taken baines spot if he stayed away from injury it prob would work him in front of baines, I believe a lot of of the prob with injury prone players is there mentality there mentally weak dyer, anderton, sturriage, carrol ect.

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04 Feb 2016 22:23:47
Have other thoughts as well. Stones is currently a lesser version of Beckenbauer, a libero, the guy that mops up and brings the ball out, letting other players do the nasty stuff. He either has to sit as last man or in Barry's position.

{Ed025's Note - i think that could be half of the problem DM, he sees himself as a good footballer(which i believe he is) and maybe he aspires to being a midfielder rather than a defender, i personally dont think hes good enough to play CM..but what do i know?..

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04 Feb 2016 23:26:29
I can see him been a lothar mattheus type of player protecting the back 4 and spraying balls around keeping the flow of the game going (stones) that way he duznt have that much responsibility defencively as yes I think he's great at playing the ball but for such a highly ratted player he's useless in the air.

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04 Feb 2016 23:44:29
I agree he's useless in the air. But I think he's miles off being a Lothar Mattheus. He's too tall to be a defensive mid and would give the ball away too much. It seems he thinks of himself too highly and if he's not prepared to get rid when he needs to then we should cash in. It was a breath of fresh air seeing Mori and Jagielka putting their foot through it when needed like a proper CB.

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05 Feb 2016 00:18:34
I think we're all being a bit too hard on the fella. Can all us think back to when we were 21? Any young man would do well not to let it get to his head. This is Stones proper first full season as a first choice player.

I think we have a lot to learn about him yet. I also think he has a lot to learn. Hope he accomplishes his potential.

To me he handled everything up until recently very professionaly for such a young player. The team was at its lowest since last season before the Newcastle game. You could see a lot of players getting annoyed with the way things were going. Not just Stones.

All these people mad to sell him at the first sign of difficulties make me laugh. He's young and needs to develop to the player we all expect and want him to be.

So I say stand by him and encourage him because as I said he's still very young and like any footballer at 21 needs to be developed and helped in any way possible.

Not sold off so some other team can gain from the exceptional talent that we all know he will become.

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05 Feb 2016 01:36:19
I think he's possibly the best defender in the league but he needs to learn to do the simple things and combine that with his skill. I'd love for him to stay with us his whole career NBTB but don't think he wants to be here, that's the only reason I'm suggesting cashing in. I think it's more important to keep Rom because would be hard to replace him with a striker of a similar caliber. Centre halves can be replaced, just look at other defences in the league with supposedly average defenders but conceding few goals when working as a unit.

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05 Feb 2016 02:27:14
I do agree OllBlue1878 if he really wants to go he'll never reach his full potential until he's completely happy with where he's playing.

Your right other defence are conceding less goals with average players which is down to coaching. Look at Moyes defence one of the best in premiership and never had a player with Stones potential.

This is really what I'm getting at, if Stones leaves he's going to go to most likely Man City or a club challenging for numerous trophies every year.

I'm sick of us selling our best players to these teams. We are never going to win anything by continually doing that.

As annoyed with Martinez as I am like most of us, I admire what my reading into what he's trying to do and achieve.

Imo he's trying to hold onto our best players who are mostly young and will get better with age. Add in more youngsters to have a confer belt of talented players coming through along with looking for value in the market for established players.

It's the only way currently I can envisage us ever returning to winning ways. If anyone has any better ideas about getting a winning team together I'd be more than glad to hear them.

Apart from a sugar daddy coming in and every year saying to the manager there's £200m get some players. I can't see any other way only the way I mentioned above or the second way with the sugar daddy. Personally I'd like to see an Arsenal type approach to the future of the club. Very shrewd and realistic in my view. In Wenger they got not only a top manager but an equally brilliant business man who had very good vision for the future of their football club.

It infuriates me that Martinez only downfall really is defence. If he got that right I think it would be fantastic. He may get it right yet. I said I'd make proper judgment on him at the end of the season. At the moment I think he's still learning himself how to set up the defence. I hope he keeps improving in that regard. Because if he does we may be onto something.

If not hopefully the next manager can take us to the next level. Who knows, there just might be a Wenger out there for Everton that has a long term vision of how to bring the club forward successfully.

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05 Feb 2016 08:34:17
When I was 21 NBTB, I had already been in the Military 6 years and half way through my second overseas tour. It is called growing up fast, never going to happen to most of these lads today because they are pampered to much.

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05 Feb 2016 13:02:06
I know DM how times change. The hype and pressure is totally different today than it was 20 - 30 years ago. The media responsible for a lot of it.

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05 Feb 2016 19:14:08
nbtb why have you got to mention moyes in nearly every post you sent you really need to get over him mate and forget him hahaha or are you his love child.

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05 Feb 2016 20:26:34
Yea I'm his love child muff. Don't mention him in every post. I actually haven't mentioned him much as of late. Only when replying to discussions about him. Haven't started a thread about him in months.

Think Degsypulford has mentioned him a lot more as of late. Just ask Degsy or Ed. I'm sure they'll clarify what I'm after saying. I'd say I've mentioned him bout 5% of my post in last month.

Think your a bit behind the times yourself muff.

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05 Feb 2016 20:38:16
Muff just for you I checked my profile and the last threads I've commented. Seeing that I haven't much else to be doing at the moment 😊

In all 20, that's 5 banter and 5 rumour posts. Also in last 5 banter replies and last 5 rumours replies I've mentioned that man once in above thread. By the way DM in last comment is for duncansmum.

No harm done, eh.

{Ed025's Note - dont take things to heart NBTB, im sure muff was only yanking your chain mate..it happens a lot on here.. :)

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05 Feb 2016 20:59:24
I know Ed025. Don't like taking crap though. I know, no hard feelings. Just wanted to clear it up. Forget about it now.

COYB 😁.

{Ed025's Note - water off a ducks back mate..thats the ticket..

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05 Feb 2016 21:09:03
Ed25 I think nb is just biting back I think although muff probably wernt being malicious I have noticed over the past couple of weeks certain posters keep disregarding anything nb says and to be fair the guy never really looks for disagreements when he does disagree he does it rather rashionally and in a polite manner every post he puts up is hard to not agree with him there is the odd one of corse as we all have different opinions the guy obviously love the blues and we're all supposed to be brothers man.

Anyways I'm off for me dart match got a 5 leg quarter final at 10 o'clock me nerves are shot to bits it's been 4 yrs since I got this far. Wish me luck.

{Ed025's Note - nbtb is sound liam and a very good poster, the good thing with our lot is that we can take the mick without it becoming personal, ....good look with the darts mate when the athletes enter the arena.. :)

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05 Feb 2016 21:27:56
ooooops touched a nerve ha soz I did say most post, no harm intended :-)

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05 Feb 2016 22:54:18
No problem muff. It's all banter here I suppose. I prob offend some without realising it or intending to either.

Best of luck tonight Blueliam. 4 years eh, you never know this might be the year you break your barren run. Hopefully the same year as the Blues. Still have the FA cup to aim for.

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04 Feb 2016 18:55:42
Just reading a post on both Squawka and the Mirror that Yarmolenko states he would prefer to play at Everton as he would get more game time than sit on the Barcelona bench as it would only increase his social media pages taking selfies on their bench! A better attitude than those happy to take big bucks and sign on for the likes of the Chelsea and Man City benches, I like players that want to play!

Also goes on to mention he states he has been learning English until the recent birth of his second child and hopes to continue again soon.

Although not saying come and get me it sounds positive stuff if true but would be better if he actually signed!

Could just be destined to be the new Riquelme always linked never signing!

{Ed025's Note - in the end it will come down to money ST, £100k a week buys one hell of a lot of beetroots mate.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 19:53:29
Seemed a rather strange interview, basically it would appear that unless we played him twice a week he would turn into a wife beater!

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04 Feb 2016 19:53:29
Seemed a rather strange interview, basically it would appear that unless we played him twice a week he would turn into a wife beater!

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04 Feb 2016 19:53:30
Does he like Beetroot? Lol 😳😳😳😳.

{Ed025's Note - staple diet in the ukraine i hear ST.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 20:03:46
What is it about this bloke. Forget him.

{Ed025's Note - i bet you said the same about winnie parks an riquelme DM.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 20:44:13
Funny this comes out 3 days after the transfer deadline. Seems to love the attention.

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04 Feb 2016 21:27:10
That's harsh Ed, Riquelme is my love child.

{Ed025's Note - i thought that was you hiding in the bushes at john lennon airport DM!...im a sucker for a father and son reunion story mate.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 21:41:33
wish this fella would just do one and stop using are club as a pawn.

{Ed025's Note - hes from ukraine muff...hes not a chech mate.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 23:27:14
love it haha.

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05 Feb 2016 06:03:53
The rumour with Yama is like the bloke at the ground sat next to you who points out something, great at first and agreeing, until he says it over and over again, more annoying the more you hear it, thank christ for small mercies we don't have to put up with anymore Charlie Austin posts.

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04 Feb 2016 15:46:27
Apparently begovic wants out of chelski we should bid for him in summer or Elliot from the toon he very good keeper.

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04 Feb 2016 17:53:50
Think Joel could be as good as either. Would rather Elliot out of the two though.

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04 Feb 2016 18:43:34
Good shout! Begovic all day for me. Apart from de gea and cortois I don't think there's a better keeper in the prem.

{Ed025's Note - petr cech?..

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04 Feb 2016 19:29:02
NBTB I like Joel but I think he should command his area a bit more but that could come with more game time and confidence but we still need another quality goalkeeper.

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04 Feb 2016 19:57:41
Fraser foster?

{Ed025's Note - jack butland?..

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04 Feb 2016 20:09:40
Peter Cech! I knew I left one out ha. I rate him as good as if not better than butland/ Forster/ lloris.

{Ed025's Note - lloris as well now..hahaha .looks like begovic is in the bottom half now kingy mate..

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04 Feb 2016 20:49:14
Yep he's a decent keeper but I'd love to buy top quality when buying a keeper. I think Cech has won Arsenal plenty of points by himself this season. There first proper keeper for a long time.

Joel is young and has 10 years at least in him. He'll only improve over the next 6 - 7 years. Deserves a chance.

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04 Feb 2016 21:27:46
On last nights performance Elliot.

{Ed025's Note - i think ET said the same DM.. :)

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04 Feb 2016 21:52:52
Id have him in before loris all day something tells me u don't like him though eds.

{Ed025's Note - no mate i rate him highly actually, it just shows that there ia a plethora of good keepers out there kingy..but im not including us in that..

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04 Feb 2016 22:20:06
I'd give Robles the rest of the season to prove himself, then if he's not good enough to be number 1, put in a big bid for Forster or Butland. We need a keeper for the next 7-10 years who would also come to us, and those 2 fit the bill in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - sounds good to me oli, but unfortunately your not the manager mate, i expect tim will be reinstated as soon as he is fit..

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04 Feb 2016 22:34:39
I know Ed, you can guarantee it. We all know Howard's off at the end of the season so if he had any sense he'd play Robles. I would play Howard for our last home game though because he deserves a good send off, he's been a great servant to the club.

{Ed025's Note - he has oli..but i would not bank on him leaving mate..

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04 Feb 2016 22:45:23
This is the stubbornness from Martinez that really gets on my last nerve the man does himself no favours.

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04 Feb 2016 22:56:10
I know kingy if he wasn't so stubborn and arrogant and admitted his mistakes and took some responsibility half the fans would probably give him another season. Would it do him any harm to say "We weren't good enough" or "I got it wrong today? "

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