Everton Rumours 27161

02 Jan 2015 10:15:28
A Happy New Year to all fellow Evertonians although what has been going on over the festive period is anyone's guess.
I've deliberately kept away from posting despite this dismal run desperately hoping that we'd start to deliver some positive results from what appeared to be 3 'easy' games. This would have then allowed RM to push upwards towards the top end of the table much like Brenda has done across the park after we were in stitches and extracting the you know what following their CL departure a month ago.

But now enough is enough! This team is a total shambles from the one we saw last season. Defensively we're a laughing stock. 4 points off the drop zone, only QPR have conceded more goals and we're the only PL side without a point from these games. Indeed MOTD last night compared our record at this stage this season with Wigan's 2 year's ago and they're almost identical and we all know how that turned out. The word this morning is that he's lost the Dressing Room following another fall out with Distin and Baines.

So what has gone wrong?
1. A dodgy pre-season - most of which Martinez missed whilst he was sunning himself in Rio with TV commitments.
2. Poor transfer signings. Kone, Alcaraz and Robles from Wigan. Barry and Lukaku who've not performed this season like they did last year. McCarthy has been a good signing and Besic will hopefully given time.
3. Questionable team selections. Players deployed out of position often when still injured or lacking match fitness. Substitutions (or lack of recently when 2 then 3 down against Southampton) that have not had the required impact upon games.
The future looks decidedly worrying when considering the next fixtures. West Ham in the Cup followed by Man City, WBA, Arsenal and the Darkside. On current form defeats and maybe a draw will see us entrenched in the bottom 3 given the way that some teams below us showed yesterday. I've been hearing "We're too good to go down" and "There are 3 worse teams than Everton this season". Really? Would that be Burnley, Leicester and WBA, each of whom showed a fighting spirit that has been lacking from us all season.

So will Roberto stay with Kenwright backing him in much the same way as Dave Whelan backed him 2 years ago into the Championship with Wigan? Or should we get rid, allowing someone else an opportunity to spend in this transfer window? If he goes who would come in? We've had our fingers burnt in the past promoting from within (Colin Harvey) and should we be looking for a British manager this time?
Sorry for the lengthy rant but I am really concerned about our future. Too many clubs have been relegated and now look never liked to return - Coventry City, Leeds Utd and Sheffield Utd to name but three. Could we be following them into the lower leagues and become the laughing stock on Merseyside?

  Daveyboy Blue

I was sat thinking I have waited for my moan, but you have summed up exactly what I had to say. but with an addition. Firstly that I thought Moyes did a great job holding us at a certain level for a good 10 years. Adding that I was worried when RM came in. but everyone's positivity sucked me into believing he was capable. Then the 3 things you list are exactly what I was thinking. 1 terrible dissorganised preseason with a lack of manager. 2. Terrible signings of below quality players. 3. Debatable team selection. I suspect he will be gone soon. I also think our season probably hinges on Leon Osman getting fit and filling the right sided midfield slot that no one else seems to be able to play this season. It is no surprise to me that he has been in the team for 4 of our premier league wins out of 5. He also played in a few of the Europa League wins. And here is the key bit. he has only played in 1 defeat. Now everyone has a go at me for harping on about Leon, but stats like that do not lie. Come on everyone, have a go about Leon Osman now! I truly believe that when he is fit, he will play the right side allowing Mirallas to go left and then a choice of Barkley, Naismith or Eto'o behind Lukaku. But only 1 of them at a time. And that is where our problem currently lies. He plays 1 of them on the right or left, then jiggles the team to fit in the other. When that doesn't work, he tries another combination. Too many changes! With regard to poor signings: Robles, McGeady, Kone, Alcaraz. With regard to other signings, players are either on their last legs. Barry/Eto'o or too much is expected of them for their age. Besic/McCarthy should only be subs at this stage of their careers. Rant over.

Degsypulford

Surely is not stupid enough or blind to the fact that this man has no answers or solutions to the situation we find ourselves in, As for those saying we are to good to go down, well not on current form. Should be sacked this weekend and get someone in who knows that you build and ready your team from the back first.

DuncsMum

Completely agree with these posts; very concerned; very

Zulutoffee

Players on there last legs degsy? youve left Osman off that list. Come on degs do you really believe Osman could or would make any difference to this shower of sh*te we have had the misfortune to be watching this season. Mate Lionel Messi couldn't make any difference to this shambles. Well maybe he could replace Robles in goal.

jimmy c

Jimmy c, if you read my post properly, I state things about the players he has signed. Yes I know Osman is on his last legs. But he has scored 2 goals this season and been on the winning side 4 times in the Premier League and a few in the Europa. I don't think there is another outfield player who can say that. Plus, he has only been involved in one loss! When he has played we have done ok.and that's because we don't have another right sided midfielder other than McGeady who RM seems to love. but I think is terrible. The other thing I was saying was that the team balance is then effected in trying to play Barkley, Eto'o and Naismith in the team. He tries to do it by using the right of midfield for one of them or even putting Barkley in the holding midfield spot. People seem to misunderstand what I am saying about Osman. All I mean is that he still has some worth and the team balance sorts itself out. The other thing RM has tried is switching Mirallas to the right and then putting one of the above or Pienaar on the left side. It's too musc shuffling around of players. They don't know what is expected of them and it's a case of round pegs in square holes. He even played Osman in holding midfield for the away leg in Wolfsburg. Osman ahd a surprisingly good game because that is def not his position. The whole thing stinks of confusion. But yes, I do think Osman has and will again add balance to the team. Wait and see when he is fit. whoever the manager is by then. People forget he has played 400 odd games and scored 50 plus goals. that's a goal every 8 games. Better than Barry or McCarthy who average less than 1 per season. Better than any of our other midfielders other than Naismith.

Degsypulford

I agree with much you say Degsy but Leon Osman will not sort out this mess if and when he becomes fit. The rot has set in and I don't see us winning any games in January. Even if we scrape past West Ham this week in the Cup, it's only going to be papering over the cracks. The next 4/5 games in the League will see us in the bottom 3 and a long, hard struggle to get out of it with Martinez still making excuses, but playing the same tactics.
Get rid whilst someone else could be given the transfer window to spend some money to get us out of the mire.

Daveyboy Blue

02 Jan 2015 21:54:07
So in other words jimmy, when osman is back we will make a drastic improvement and win the league #onemanteam #ossieforballond'or #osmanbetterthanmaradona

Swan

Please do not change my words Swan. All I am saying is that we did better with Ossie in the team and stats prove that. Added to which, your love child Aiden McGeady together with your other fantastic players that we debated many times (Alcaraz, Kone etc) have done sod all. These are the players that you told me were brilliant signings. Look back at your past posts and see what we debated. You have a very short memory my friend. You also told me that RM was a much better manager than Moyes and got quite rude when I defended Moyes' record. You told me the football was negative and RM was wonderful. You also said we should get rid of Howard. I did point out that it is best to get a replacement in before "getting rid" of all these players including Howard. Well now you will have your wish. At least for the next few games. I also remember talking about lack of goals from our new signings. Well please do tell me how many goals have: Alcaraz, Kone, McGeady, Barry, McCarthy, Besic, Eto'o, Atsu contributed? Only Lukaku has scored suff goals and he is now suffering from lack of support. This is where I think Ossie is invaluable. Only time will tell. I do say we will be in a much stronger position with a fit Osman. He has chipped in with a few assists and goals so far. His career average is 1 in 8. Take Eto'o out of the above list and that's more than all the others added together! I know you don't like Osman. I also know that some of your memory seems to go out the window when it comes to these debates. This is the manager and squad of players that you assured me was going to be peaches and cream!

Degsypulford

I forgot to add.unless we sign a right sided midfielder and a center half of quality, I do see us going down.

Degsypulford

03 Jan 2015 16:16:37
Please don't twist my words then degsy, I hate mcgeady, I also was probably the one begging on here most NOT to sign him. I also don't recall saying alcaraz and kone were fantastic signings, you do think osman will solve our problems, isn't that right?. Do you honestly think osman is our best player? don't give me some rubbish either, is leon osman evertons best player.

Swan

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