Everton Rumours 27375

17 Jan 2015 21:31:03
Wedgewood earlier was quoting RM saying that he would not budge from us principles and that players had to get back to enjoying their football. In my opinion the only way you enjoy your football is when you are winning and sometimes this means you have to change.
Now I admit I am coming at this from a spectator only. I scored one worldie in a school game and managed briefly pub teams Saturdays and Sunday league.
A little story. I remember watching my lad play for the school. The school team were crap, totally disorganised. They got hammered nearly every week. This one week the teacher was refereeing another game and at half time the lads were 3-0 down. It was obvious what was wrong, square pegs in round holes. Me and another parent totally reorganised the team, told them to forget the first half and pretend it was a new game. They won the second half 1-0 and the kids were buzzing. The person of a teacher went ape when he heard we we interfered believing that kids should just be left to enjoy themselves doing it his way. Bulls****.
In sport you need organisation, tactics and only if you win is it enjoyable and sometimes, however stubborn you are you have to accept change.

Tedster

That is the point Tedster, if it isn't working you do have to accept change. My worry is that there is no sign at all that this basic concept is in el Bob's head, quite the opposite like the teacher you mention, they must "enjoy" their football his way.

So if there is a refusal to change or even a refusal to believe anything is wrong, what should be done about it?

Wedgewood

{Ed025's Note - its a tough call wedge..if we do fall into the bottom 3...do we sack him?....if so who do we get?....do we stick by him regardless?...

Well Ed that is the million dollar question. I would be of the stick with the manager and support the team school of thought normally. But this is totally different to a bad run of form and results.

If he gave just one sign that he accepted there is a problem rather than this BS about players "enjoying their football" Or made some statement of intent to put things right rather than try to tell us how good Wigan were I would say stick with him.

As it is, I am looking towards the end of the season, if we stick with him and go down what does that do to the club? Will it put us in administration? Could we survive in the Championship if docked 10 points? Never mind come back up at the first attempt.

Can we risk sticking with him? I know it is not the Everton way and I honestly hate to say it, but I would sack him now while we still have a fighting chance.

As for who to replace him, who knows? A stop gap appointment I suppose, although there is not much choice out there, maybe Hoddle or Sherwood on a 6 month contract, if they would do it that is!

Wedgewood

9 home games left 5 wins. 8 away games left 1 win. 18 more points. Simples. We shouldn't even be considering these scenarios.

Tedster

18 Jan 2015 00:53:51
Martinez has his head in the sand. He doesn't want to change despite seeing his old Wigan team drop out of the premiership. He puts himself before any club and that means he's dangerous. Will he care if we go into free fall? He didn't shed many tears over Wigan. In fact he just took their better players.

If we get relegated I don't think we'll ever return. There would be a huge fire sale just to keep afloat and that would leave a team in danger of slipping further.

If RM won't change then I believe we need to for the sake of the club and our supporters. I would take Hoddle and quickly before he's QPR boss in a few weeks.

Pod

I am hoping that this strange silence from BK means that he is active behind the scenes trying to sort out the mess that Roberto with his obstinate belief in his system has got us into. As for sacking him, it should have happened 2 - 3 games ago, as for replacement, Big Dunc with Joe as his advisor. We would see an immediate improvement because I believe Roberto stifles and/or ignores the evidence of his system failure and advice from non-yes men.

DuncsMum

{Ed025's Note - if we did get rid of bobby..i would not like the responsibility for saving us put on the shoulders of dunc no matter how broad they are, it would have to be someone with pedigree for me DM, i remember newcastle trying it with shearer and it never worked then!..

Not only has Roberto got his head in the sand but the rest of Football also it would seem. Watching the Sunday Supplement at the moment and no mention of Everton but plenty on Villas problems yet we are both on the same points. We are a great Club, yet our profile has been eroded to that of an also ran.

DuncsMum

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