09 May 2015 14:56:48
Howard-3-wow, that was bad, constantly made the wrong decisions and for both goals, what is he doing? Anyone who thinks he is good needs their eyes and brains examined. Coleman-5-poor, simply poor, went forward once and cannot cross to save a life. Stones-6-not good either but did more things going forward than our 'new wazza (lol)'. Jagielka-6.5-why does he keep going on the left wing? It doesn't do anything. Baines-4-haha he cannot take corners and was out of position for the first goal, 'give him another season', erm, no? he's absolutely dreadful and yes, I still maintain my point that he CANNOT defend. Mccarthy-6.5-hit the post and yep that was it. Barry-6-lost it a lot, just poor. Lennon-6-not good by his standards, still wanted to go forward but gets no support. Barkley-3-he is crap, no other word to describe him, crap, gets the ball, turns left then right then left then right then left then right (all while rolling his studs on the ball) then does a little sideways pass to someone else. Everton would be a lot better without him, players like naismith and mirallas who are MUCH MUCH better players are being kept out of the team because of him, please get rid. Osman-6-WHAT! we lost when he was in the team? No way! He lost it a lot too but still looked like maradonna compared to barkley. Lukaku-6-kept coming on the left for some reason but gets no service because the player playing behind him (you know, barkley) can't play football. Mirallas-6-corners wernt much better. Garbutt-6-shocked he came on, expected martinez to put barry left back and bring mcgeady on. Well that was terrible, I left after the second goal because that was awful, i'm sorry but can someone tell me what makes barkley better than rooney? Because he's just terrible.
09 May 2015 15:45:05
We had 15 corners. I wonder what today's score would have been if we did practice them.
09 May 2015 15:52:38
You forgot to give Martinez rating. I give zero for him to allow his players played without intensity.
09 May 2015 17:30:05
If the manager cannot motivate his players it's time to go. If the players think they are on holiday we need a new captain who will tell them straight. This season has been poor and I don't think Martinez has the ability to take Everton to the next level.
09 May 2015 17:45:51
haha been looking forward to see what nonsense you would score players with after this game! You never fail to give me a laugh Swan, the score depends on how you rate a player ability wise. For example, you constantly run down Baines and overstate Garbutts worth. 4 for LB yet a 6 for LG? Garbutt got ripped a few times after coming on, looked off the pace, missed easy tackles and shown nothing going forward. Yet he scores more than LB? What about Stones? You don't mark him down for messing about with the ball, giving it away which lead to the 2nd goal. Yet he scores better than others! Howard 3? hahaha that is all I can say, he's played worse than that and you have given him better marks. Barkley 3, and he's crap? Unbelievable mate. If we had players who would make runs in to space he wouldn't have to turn all over the shop would he? Not the best game he has had but, again, the entire team has been rubbish for weeks, if not months. Anser me this please Swan, you go on about LB being a bad player saying he has been crap for 3 seasons. I've asked you before but you have never answered, yes this season I'd agree (but the entire team falls in to that category) explain why he has been crap for 3 seasons as you put it.
09 May 2015 19:18:35
Ah so its everyone elses fault barkley was being bad today, sorry my mistake, forgot he's untouchable as he's a 'local lad'. I score subs who don't really do anything a 6, I've considered giving them 5s but i'm sort of used to giving 6s. Howard in other games, has been bad and I should of given him lower ratings but like barkley, he was untouchable. Baines has been poor this season (like most of the squad I agree). He was poor last season (our best run was when oviedo in the team and ALL those poor corners last season? Mostly baines.) as he got ripped too many times, got destroyed by puncheon against palace, in moyes' last season he was poor, I remember after oviedos debut vs norwich many people calling for him to stay in due to how poor baines was. Sunderland away? Sessesgnons goal! Baines lost it. Swansea at home last season, he was skinned a few times by dyer and was out of position for their goal. While no defender is perfect, baines is very overrated as he can't defend. Struggles vs any winger willing to run at him, antonio valencia was a personal highlight as he used to bully baines every game. What else, he can't cross anymore (surely you must agree) and has lost any ability to drive forward, people say 'its because pienaar isn't playing' well if the only reason you play well is because of another player it tells the qualities of pienaar rather than baines. He simply doesn't have the pace, crossing, defending or skill to be a threat. How often does he beat a man? Never. Did you ever wonder why no top clubs wanted him? Oh sorry, bar a utd side managed by the man who brought him to everton.
09 May 2015 22:20:21
Don't twist my words Swan, at no point did I blame the rest of the team for his performance. I was merely responding to your comment and what you said (turning right/left etc). Look at the stats for Baines during this 3 year period you harp on about. I'm sure you will find he played better than you care to remember, did he not hold a few records for assists and crosses for a full back? The reason you get on his back is because you want LG to replace him but, on todays performance, albeit he wasn't on the pitch long, he isn't going to hold down left back slot for an entire season. Ideally, LG would sign the contract then loan him to a team coming up to the prem, see how he cuts it first. We are well covered in that position and he gets his wish of game time.
I'll judge everyone starting next season, we can agree that the entire team has been below par this term. If players are still playing so bad then either sack the manager or sell them players.
{Ed025's Note - fair play spud...its the first option for me mate..
10 May 2015 02:14:25
Stats support how bad barkley is, doesn't the door swing both ways?. For me ideally, baines be sold, garbutt and oviedo fight it out for the left back slot. Are we supposed to believe garbutt will believe martinez that he will be a regular after one season, on good faith?. I think garbutt will leave, baines remains first choice for 5 years, yay.
10 May 2015 14:17:16
Stats support how bad the entire team has been, doesn't the door swing both ways for every squad member? Or is it just for the ones you personally dislike? I see you are avoiding the Baines issue, as I expected you would (and have every time it is brought up). I never said Garbutt should believe he will be first choice after 1 season but loaning him out is one solution to get him the games that he craves. He may not even cut it at this level for all we know so it is one way of seeing where he is at ability wise.
You just want Baines gone because you don't like him, end of really. Instead of crying about what you believe he is bad at, just admit it is a personal thing
10 May 2015 16:44:01
Oh so because I disagree its a personal thing, you did this with barkley too. Or maybe, I just don't think they are that good? Heavens forbid anyone else doesn't rate baines anymore. But to get the door swinging both ways, the only reason you want garbutt loaned out is its a personal thing, see? I can do it too, silly isn't it?. Also can you tell me what I have avoided?.
10 May 2015 18:43:09
I don't come on here slating the players I don't personally like yet you do it in nearly every post. And it is always the same players, we get it, change the tune! I've asked you to back up your comments on Baines numerous times but you stop talking about it. I asked you to tell me, back it up with solid evidence, of how Baines has been poor for three seasons even though stats do not back up your theory. Since you have never answered I am assuming it is because it is a personal thing. Then we get the usual over the top reply from you, turn it back round on someone who is, heaven forbid, questioning your view point! It's not that I would like to see him go out on loan, I just happen to think that it would be a perfect solution all round. Whereas you would rather see a regular international footballer sold in the hope that a young lad can fill his position with no problems whatsoever. Every exchange with you can be silly Swan, and I mean no disrespect by saying that, but your age shines through with the way you talk down to people. Have a debate by all means, that's what makes forums like this, but be realistic with your comments pal
10 May 2015 20:58:50
He takes every free kick, corner and formerly took every penalties, I think most people would have a few goals and assists off that!. I also don't get how you want me to change and tune and ita always the same players? Um, duh? i'm not going to come on here complaining about west ham players one week, celta vigo players the next and then sao paolo players the next. Also, with us playing most weeks, it tends to update discussions and topics. I also don't get the whole talking down to people thing, someone disagrees with me, so what, if they put a point across as to why they think i'm wrong and I post back in reply then it gets counted as agression. What an intersting site it would be if a poster says 'we were poor' someone replies saying 'i disagree' and the op goes 'fair enough'. Wow, i'm on the edge of my seat. I think people don't like negativity, anyone on here that doesn't believe every player is perfect and everything is sunshine and roses for everton is either 1. A kopite, 2. Aggressive or 3. Deluded. Results have been poor, some players haven't been playing well enough, I think people should be allowed to be the slightest bit anti sunshine and roses.