13 May 2015 19:59:22
So Vill go up for sale and already have three punters fighting to buy them. Well Bill? Sorry was that tumbleweed just blown bye. And don't go blaming the stadium, the first time Bill mentioned selling, the stadium was nearly new😀
14 May 2015 00:44:50
Bill kenwright, would rather see Everton, as mid table also rans, under his control, than competitors, under new ownership, there are still people who see him as the saviour from Johnson, but afder more than 10 years of stagnation, it really is time for him to stand aside.
14 May 2015 07:48:04
Bill hasn't said we're up for sale. He has always stated that he was looking for investment ie a sucker to give us cash whilst he remains chairman. Ultimately I suspect that's why no one is showing any interest. If we were up for sale then we would have issues such as a decrepit stadium. Its a no win really especially as the ffp would affect us. Outside of the top 4 and maybe Liverpool and Spurs who can generate large incomes the rest of are midtable and it will remain that way.
14 May 2015 08:02:11
He is the savour from Johnson. We were almost bankrupt with him and even the mention of fighting for champions league seemed impossible when Kenwright first took over.
You want billionaires? Go take a look at QPR and tell me again!
14 May 2015 09:56:30
meh, man city and chelsea are better examples john.
14 May 2015 11:05:11
Just two Swan and I could point out 10 others that are disastrous.
Portsmouth, Villa, Liverpool, Malaga, QPR, Cardiff, Hull, Fulham, West Ham, Southamptom, Leeds, Reading, Sheff Wed, Newcastle, Birmingham, Parma, Rangers, Blackpool, Coventry and Notts County to name but a few.
The best thing for a club is to be self sustaining. That means a new Stadium like what Arsenal have done. That is the model we should adopt. If the two above pull the plug both clubs would go under due to the debt they have and debt they will continue to accrue due to wages, etc.
Good chairman are hard to come by. He might not have gagilions but he at least is keeping us on the straight and narrow and not selling the heart and soul of the club.
{Ed001's Note - Chelsea are self sustaining now and City are moving that way anyway. If Abramovich left tomorrow, Chelsea would be fine.}
14 May 2015 12:07:46
I don't know about that Ed. Chelsea are still £958 mil in debt and City are still losing vat sums of money each season regardless of the new TV deal and new sponsor deals.
Either way I would rather be self sustaining than rely on someone that doesn't truly feel for the club and maybe looking for a Billionaires toy.
{Ed001's Note - who is their debt too? It is owed to Roman, and it has provisions within it that mean it is not an issue. It will be gradually reduced over time. I do agree, self sustainment is the way to go, but Chelsea are now in that position, with a planned increase in ground capacity or new stadium to come. Citeh's vast sums were mostly spent on club and surrounding area's infrastructure, which is what Everton need to do if they are to ever get out of the position they are in. It is not just a new ground or upgraded Goodison, they have to have an area with an infrastructure that can support an increased attendance.}
14 May 2015 13:08:10
Ed001 its still a debt so the potential is there for it to be an issue. Can Chelsea afford the current club wage structure and dip into the transfer market without Roman backing them? If not then there may be problems in a future without him. I personally don't think he will leave anytime soon so it's not worth worrying about if you are a Chelsea fan. I do think you are spot on re Everton though its not just about a new stadium
{Ed001's Note - there are provisions built into it mate. Chelsea no longer take money from Roman to fund their transfers, they live within their means now.}
14 May 2015 15:27:18
You can all moan as much as you like about Villa being bought, but the fact is they a lot more appealing than us. If I was a businessman I wouldn't touch Everton with a barge pole, forget history it's meaningless it's commercial growth and profit that matters both in which Everton fail miserably at, i'm sorry guys but Everton are the ugly duckling of the premier league and that's not likely to change anytime soon if at all.
14 May 2015 17:18:16
In all honesty football is now a business and moneymen are in it to make money and not for sentiment. As a business we are not the biggest draw for potential buyers/investors as we are not the biggest global club financial wise in our city as much as it pains to say that. Villa however are the biggest club financially and spectator wise in there city which makes them a lot more attractive to the moneymen.
14 May 2015 17:02:42
I totally agree with you Ed over the ground move. It's not just the ground. If and hopefully when we get a new ground there is more to it than just that. The more assets the better.
Goodison is an asset and like what Arsenal did so we should look to do the same. Although, housing is not the answer due to the value of housing in the area but for commercial use it is a good size site.
On the subject of commercial revenue. If we are not hitting the heights right now in generating commercial revenue then that just means there is more potential revenue to tap into. As an investor you would look for areas you can improve on and if we are failing in these areas and there is quick and easy ways to generate more income then it is a tick in the box not a cross. :)
14 May 2015 19:35:55
You talk about him keeping us out of debt. Well the TV money did that, not him. without that we would be selling best players, not buying them.
14 May 2015 20:16:52
That Chelsea debt to Fordstam is over a billion quid and is interest free, is that right?
I don't understand how UEFA's FFPR are not all over this. How comes?
{Ed001's Note - because it is about running within clubs' means, no provisions for existing debts at all.}
15 May 2015 07:45:07
Our problem is that we were too late on the bandwagon. Those who already have had money chucked at them put the investment prior to the financial fair play rules being implemented. Chelsea and Man City in particular. Don't forget Man City were also given their stadium. Any potential investor is prohibited from chucking money at a club now.thus devaluing the club.especially one with an old stadium like ours. The FFP rules are totally inadequate and will do the opposite of what they were designed for. The top "elite" clubs are almost guaranteed to stay that way now because the "unfair" investment they already have (from non football generated sources) can never be matched in the future with other clubs like ours.
15 May 2015 08:20:43
@Woburnblue Tv revenue is revenue and the main revenue for most clubs. It's keeping every team out of debt in professional football.
It's like saying people coming through the turnstiles are keeping us out of debt.