28 May 2015 16:17:32
Talking to my mate who is an Arsenal fan earlier. He seems to think Wilshere is better than McCarthy, which I completely disagree with. And furthermore, he has the cheek to say that McCarthy wouldn't get in the Arsenal team. Just wondered what some of you thought about the whole Wilshere vs McCarthy debate.
{Ed025's Note - its not even a debate KO, i edit the arsenal site and most of them really rate mccarthy, im afraid jack has been a perennial under achiever mate..
28 May 2015 17:04:33
Think its well known how much I despise arsenal so I will keep it nice as possible. Wilshere isn't overrated or someone who never reached his potential. He is, in fact, awful. Heres why, here is what wilshere does, he sprints forward 5 yards (with his tongue out, god knows why) and passes sideways then keeps running with his tongue out until he runs into someone. He then, if the player is smaller than him, will act hard and square up to him. If not, like he did with barkley, yacob, dembele, kompany and huddlestone (thats not me exaggerating either, he literally flapped it off each of these players) he will stay down and act injured, sometimes he is injured. But the whole running 5 yards thing? According to 'experts' like keown he is 'creating space' and is a world class player because of it. Now let's compare, passing, like I said, wilshere 5 yard passes, genius, oh and if you want to mention that pass he did when arsenal beat someone 3-0 or whatever (i can't remember who against) then please do, darron gibson did that same pass on his weaker foot whilst falling over against tottenham. Mccarthy's passing is good and accurate, not paul scholes esq but good. Tackling, not up for debate, mccarthy is an incredible tackler. Energy, haha, mccarthy runs the london marathon before and after games if he wanted to. Strength, mccarthy is a strong lad (ask aaron ramsey whom he put on his arse last season) and wilshere got pushed over by steven pienaar. Pace, mccarthy is quick, wilshere is quick, over 5 yards. Sort of even but wilshere is a cocky and arrogant guy so i'm going to give it to mccarthy for that reson. They are in dreamland if they believe jack wheelchair is even in the same universe as mccarthy. Read daily mail comments by them on bellerin, try to contain laughter. Here is one I will quote, the persons name is 'giroud sucksss' and he said the following (to 300 thumbs up, arsenal fans love a vote) 'hector bellerin is already the best full back in the premier league and will go on to be the best right back of all time, he is much better than phillip lahm, dani alves and zabaleta'. Its no wonder they were voted most deluded fans in the league. It would kill me if players like stones went there. I would rather he went to city or chelsea than arsenal. As they would add it to the list of players they (didn't) develop like ramsey, walcott and oxlade chamberlain. I wouldn't take any notice what they say mate.
{Ed025's Note - you never have a nice word about anybody though swan, arsenal are my second team as they are a proper club and play football the right way, and i can tell you their supporters are quality on here as well mate..
28 May 2015 17:38:36
Hey no doubt, I think every clubs supporters are class on this. They have always been in the same bracket as utd fans in terms of picking and choosing which players they want (as though they will definitely get them) and act as though the world owes them a favour. Every fan is biased towards their club but arsenal fans take it to the extreme, I mean, giroud better than suarez and aguero? Bellerin already better than lahm? Or my favourite, coquelin better than toure and matic? Come on. If their your second team then that's fine, I just don't like them, from their fans to their players. Very unlikeable bunch imo.
28 May 2015 17:40:57
I am sorry Ed025 but Tikatak football is not the right way! especially in the premiership, if it was, Arsenal would win the league every year.
It is boring and tiresome. Football is about getting the ball into the box and creating chances, Not overworking it then losing the ball.
The reason we where so good in the first 6 months of Martinez's reign was we still played with Moyes's defence and tempo, and slowly Martinez beat it out of them!
Anyway Wheelchair (made me laugh Swanny) wouldn't make it passed McCarthy Barkley Mirallas or Besic/Gibson, and I agree! I would not like to see our kids go to the graveyard of young English talent
{Ed025's Note - they do play a type of tik-a taka SDS but its with pace, not like the passing backwards and sideways that we have been doing mate..
28 May 2015 20:45:27
Although I do believe he is slightly overrated, your assessment is a bit ott Swan. The lad has got talent, we have all seen it in a game or two. The problem he has is with injuries, he will never be able to showcase his real talents if he can't get enough games to become consistent. With regards to their fans, each club is the same. All have reasonable people as well as the idiots, Everton has got both too.
{Ed025's Note - your right spud..
28 May 2015 21:01:23
Personally think Wiltshire is a cracking little player, his problem is he's prone to injury. As for him and Macca, I would love to see them play together, (for us of course) think they would be a great partnership.
28 May 2015 23:03:23
of course every fan has those types of people spud, its just I don't see too many of those fans of chelsea, city or hell even liverpool. With arsenal and utd its the majority (that I know about, not saying the majority of the arsenal fan base is like that). As for wheelchair, we will have to agree to disagree, he's in a similar bracket to rodwell for me (who I've spoken about before) in the sense of I don't know what it is he does, like cleverley.
29 May 2015 09:48:39
Sorry Swan I have to disagree, IMO Wilshere when he had a run of games did look a good player but as he plays for the Arse and is always injured its a mute point what we think. As for Rodwell he did look like he may have developed into a decent CB would IMO would have had to stayed with us to reach his potential but he didn't. I do agree with you on Cleverly though. let's hope he signs for Villa as Sherwood like him.