04 Feb 2016 16:26:47
What on earth is going on with Colemans crossing at the moment? Apart from one cut back to Lennon the rest of his crossing was woeful. Playing well and finding good runs and overlaps but the final ball is atrocious.
04 Feb 2016 17:25:55
All players from the moyes brigade that have played under Martinez have had trouble performing to there highest level since bobby took over
1 howard
2 bainsy
3 mustard
4 distan
5 jags
6 Ossie
7 Gibbo
8 mirallas
9 naisy
Didn't ad stones and Barkley because they were just teens and still developing but there's probably more
Apart from stones and Barkley like I say I believe Martinez has had a negative effect on everyone else.
04 Feb 2016 17:38:24
Or there just getting old?
04 Feb 2016 17:42:58
Nothing to do with their age n fitness do ya think, nearly all of them mentioned have injury issues or age issues. No continuity with them.
04 Feb 2016 21:06:40
Jags and Distin were brilliant in Martinez's first season. Naismith was good all through and was awful when Moyes was here, Mirallas was injured in most of Moyes last season and quality last 2 seasons.
Howard is crap, Baines is finished and Osman is Osman.
{Ed025's Note - you are very opinionated swan...in my book baines is still a very good player, naisy was good but was never used properly by either manager, and mirallas has under achieved since hes been here, osman has been a great servant but his legs are not up to starting a game now...does that make me opinionated?, probably but i dont ram it down peoples throats mate..
04 Feb 2016 21:20:12
How is that ramming it down people's throats? Naisy was not used properly except by Martinez, though admittedly rarely.
Made my point very clear when I've said Martinez doesn't have a clue how to use this squad, he did in his first season, for some reason, which should still be taken in to account. Or are we saying that season never happened and that everything has been awful since Martinez joined.
04 Feb 2016 21:38:04
Opinionated? Yes. Disrespectful? Almost definitely. The three players you have mentioned Swan have been good servants to EFC during their time with the club. They maybe coming to the end of their careers (Baines has a few years left in the tank imo) but they have all been important members of the squad. We treat our former players with the respect they deserve, not many clubs do the same, yet, if the next generation of fans are as blinkered, this will go out of the window. When these three decide to hang up their boots they should be welcom back to Goodison any time.
Spot on ed, for all the talent KM has, he has certainly under achieved with us. Hope the penny drops with him before it's too late. Naismith was probably too nice for his own good, never complained when out of the team, just a top pro in a world of prima- donnas. His first game for us, v Athens, he scored 3 goals playing as a striker. Moyes then played him wide until he left. RM never gave him a chance as a striker either.
{Ed025's Note - good post that spud, i dont know whether its my age or not but lack of respect in general really irks me mate..i will get off my soap box now..
04 Feb 2016 22:00:56
Couldn't agree more Ed025 and spudv.