14 Aug 2016 12:17:49
Please don't waste money on Hart. His wages are going to be sky high as well. If Pep rates him second best to Caballero it says it all. If not going to sign a top GK then keep Stekelenburg as number 1 don't waste it on someone who thinks he's better than he is,
14 Aug 2016 12:37:47
I don't want Hart and I'm delighted how Stekelenburg is doing so far but can we fully rely on Stekelenburg? I would be delighted if he continues to improve but I still have my doubts.
This is why, wasn't he second choice at Fulham? At the age of what 32 or something like that. Still has 5 years as a keeper. But my real point is how often is a gem found at that age as a squad player in the championship? Almost never, if not never. How could he go unnoticed all that time? I know he was decent before but I'm talking about the standard of a keeper we are looking for now.
I love finding a hidden gem as much as anyone. Walsh done it at Leicester and Vardy is an example of a player developing to his potential rapidly late in his career. If that happens with Stekelenburg I'll be as happy as anyone. Just not convinced of it yet. Average won't cut it.
He has been a good signing regardless. A good squad player at worst from what I've seen so far but long term solution to our goalkeeper problem I'm not convinced just yet.
If it turns out that way Walsh and Koeman are bigger geniuses than I thought!
14 Aug 2016 12:41:02
What does it say about Del Boy if he cannot get on the Barcelona bench and has not one but a good half dozen players in front of him. He's done alright for Everton
Before Moshiris money we could only dream of getting Joe Hart, say what you like about Hart he is still a top class keeper and will add competition.
{Ed002's Note - What money is that. The money for transfers comes from sales and from club income. This has been explained over and over to you.}
14 Aug 2016 12:45:44
Pep likes to have sweeper keepers and Hart is obviously not in that bracket. This will bite City in the arse at some point as that type of keeper isn't really suited to our league, it's ok in Spain or Germany where they get more time but our game is 100mph in comparison.
I know a lot of blues don't fancy Hart as our number one but he is definitely better than what we already have and the fans number one choice, from what I've read on here, Butland will not be leaving Stoke so who else is out there?
MS had a good game yesterday for us but I'm not convinced he is the answer. I'm basing that on his performances for other teams in the prem over the last few years. His name has never really been mentioned as a keeper to replace Howard before he joined and he was brought in as back up in the first place. Joel is not good enough imo.
Maybe a change of club would do Hart the world of good? He has experience at the highest level, international and european, and I don't think he is as bad as some fans make out. I agree he makes a few mistakes but every keeper is prone to that. As I said a few days back, he looks decent when Kompany is ahead of him but not so much with the likes of Demichels or Malanga. With the likes of Williams and Jags in front of him he might be a gamble worth taking, especially since there is a dearth of talented keepers actually available.
14 Aug 2016 12:48:41
Spikes, does that mean sell Lukaku because he thinks he is better than he is. I got slated when I said Barry will be a great signing, giving experience and helping the youngsters.
If you want to challenge for the top, you need strength in debt, Hart will add that.
I do agree steak looks good in goal, only takes an injury and suddenly one of the most important areas is weakened.
Howard and Robles only needed a dip in form or injury and it's hard to cover, it's easier to cover outfield ares by slotting players in a different position, but you have to have backup in goal or you're stuffed.
I give you Neville Southall as a yardstick how important a goalkeeper is.
So for me I would take Joe Hart all day long.
14 Aug 2016 13:16:17
Money also comes from wages Ed regardless of transfers, before Moshi came, we would not be in the position to offer wages around the wages we are looking to pay to keep Lukaku or top players. Signing.
Money talks with players, and there was no way Bill would have paid the wage we are now offering Lukaku., not because he did not want to, but because he could not.
Regardless of Money, we now have the money to say no unless we get top dollar and we now sell when we want to and not have to.
{Ed002's Note - No money comes from wages - the club spends money on wages. You really don't seem to understand how this works at all - and what Mosiri money are you talking about?}
14 Aug 2016 13:44:57
Ok will leave Moshi out of this, the guy is not at Everton From income coming in and players sold we would then offer Lukaku the amount of wages we are offering now to keep hold of him, not a chance Bill would have sold Lukaku.
The only reason we did not sell Stones last season is as we all know Martinez was one stubbern manager, it is one of the few good things for Everton he did.
We can now offer top wages for top players, new ground to come, but I guess all this would have been done by our board before the Moshi era, hang on tattoo and fantasy island spring to mind.
14 Aug 2016 13:44:57
Ok will leave Moshi out of this, the guy is not at Everton From income coming in and players sold we would then offer Lukaku the amount of wages we are offering now to keep hold of him, not a chance Bill would have sold Lukaku.
The only reason we did not sell Stones last season is as we all know Martinez was one stubbern manager, it is one of the few good things for Everton he did.
We can now offer top wages for top players, new ground to come, but I guess all this would have been done by our board before the Moshi era, hang on tattoo and fantasy island spring to mind.