25 Sep 2016 21:31:13
Why is it that when we played bad last year it was the managers fault but when we play bad now it's the players fault?
25 Sep 2016 23:49:46
When we played bad last year it was the managers fault is your first point. Yes it was his fault pretty much. Why? Because he was s*ite basically.
I can only speak for myself but never wanted RM and his bad management came to a head last season. Put my neck out and said I wanted Koeman even when he was denying he had any interest. I said I thought he was the best manager we could possibly get. I still think that.
He has to deal with the bad management that affected 80% of the squad. He's doing a good job so far imho. I may be proved wrong with Koeman yet but his start is very good imho.
That's why I don't get your second point when we play bad this season its the players fault? We've lost 2 games out of 8? Isn't much to compare to last season really where there was 38 plus games.
Of course at times the players were at fault last season. But in the main the problem was at the top. Shaking off the cobwebs now will take time and patience. Players will play bad. We will be beaten and supporters will be p*ssed off.
But imho we will be far better off come the end of the season. My opinions, but hey, what the hell do I know.
25 Sep 2016 23:54:37
What a great question, I would be interested to see how people answer this as when I suggested last season that the players were as much to blame as the manager I got slated for it!
26 Sep 2016 09:25:59
Omg, guess we were far too hasty with our dear old Bobby and those posters who wanted him to stay as our manager. well... what can we say? 'Oops sorry you did warn us didn't you! '
BS Martinez esq. v Mr Koeman? Are you kidding 😕.
26 Sep 2016 15:41:58
Blue 247, I never for one minute said I wanted RM to stay on as manager I was just throwing some words into the hat. but must admit I was one who never wanted RK as our manager, but will back him as long as I can. I just thought we could have done better.
26 Sep 2016 18:28:40
Sky I didn't think for one minute you wanted RM to stay mate and wasn't really replying to your OP specifically as such .
As for wanting RK, well I did from the get go if not before that even LOL . . and always had a sneaky suspicion Saints would do their usual shortsighted negotiations fiasco re transfer kitty and selling off the family jewels etc. even though he pulled them out of a massive hole that they dug for themselves!
So the very fact FM wanted him here with us too means I will give pass after pass so to speak, the truth is I believe in him 100%.
{Ed025's Note - me too 247..
26 Sep 2016 22:27:51
Skylark, not having a pop but whow else could we possibly of got that would be better?
I wanted Koeman from the start and rate him. At the same time he is not a sure bet. Question marks over whether the relative success at Southampton was down time him or a management team effort. I'm delighted with him at Everton and think he'll do good.
I'm oblivious to him not succeeding, as I said there is no guarantee. Imho this Everton job will be the making or breaking of him. Done well at Southampton. If he also does well at Everton he will have proven himself. Other clubs may come calling but hopefully he be that big of a success at Everton he won't want to leave.
26 Sep 2016 23:25:36
Correction: not oblivious.
27 Sep 2016 12:37:18
NBTB, I don't know who we could have got? A couple of ex-Man City managers maybe? And a couple more come to mind just glad it wasn't me making the decision but I will back him while I'm at the game as long as I can but something just doesn't seem right to me let's hope you are right and prove me wrong.