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28 Nov 2016 22:23:19
How is this for being miserable Guernsey - The thought that we may never see everton win the league ever again in our life time because we are grumpy old men.

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28 Nov 2016 23:46:28
Really, are you an Everton supporter?

29 Nov 2016 08:19:35
Why is it when someone who passionately cares about Everton Football Club. comes on here and makes a comment that something may be wrong (eg me when 3 years ago I said Martinez was leading us to a path of ruin by not replacing Osman, Pienaar and trying to introduce a style of football that would bore the pants off a cricket supporter) . and I mean Skylark. people start questionning if he is a supporter?

Are we supposed to bury our heads in the sand and not voice an opinion? In the same way that others who do feel positive that things are going well? Does that makeus any less of a supporter? I find it offensive when people question my loyalty. and I can understand why Skylark is asking the question. In my view it is far too early to judge Koeman. but surely Skylark is no less of a supporter for having doubts.

just like the ones I voiced 3 years ago but got the same sort of abuse at the time. I was told that Osman and Pienaar were poor. I was told we were on the way up. I was told McCarthy was world class. I was told Kone was 100 times better than Anichebe. I was told Moyes played terrible football.

I was told so many things and basically got abused for suggesting things may not be as rosy as lots of other people were suggesting. I could accept this. but I could not accept people querying my loyalty to Everton Football Club. And I think it is totally unfair for people to query others loyalty just because they don't see things as rosy as others. NBTB please consider yourself told off by me!

29 Nov 2016 08:21:43
Forgot to say. we are all Evertonians and need to support each other. as well as the club. and that's one thing I always say. we are still a club. In the traditional sense.

29 Nov 2016 10:06:43
Very well said Degsy, i have had similar stick on several occasions. I have been a Blue since 52 and this issue of the players are not good enough is rubbish, they proved against Spurs for a large proportion of the game they can compete but they have for some reason thrown their dummies out the pram. Why, is the golden question!

29 Nov 2016 11:33:50
Skylark,

Yes we may be grumpy old men, but we are grumpy old men with a strong belief that one day we will be a top side again. We have a good, strong and loyal fanbase who all believe somewhere in their hearts we will become good again.

Good things are happening off the playing field and it is only a matter of time before good things return to the playing field for us.

29 Nov 2016 11:57:05
Exactly Grumpytoffee. To suggest we'll never win anything again sounds suspicious in my mind.

Degsy, consider myself told off! You must be joking. As always you took me up the wrong way and your points do not make any sense in this context.

First why I asked the true supportership of Skylark. His posts very rarely if ever are in any way positive. Sometimes its like he's a red coming on here having a sneer. I may be totally wrong but I have my doubts. I'm not the only one on here who has doubts about his aligence.

A while back I read one of his posts and while reading it was he actually an Everton supporter. To my amazement the Ed033 who was on duty at the time asked was he a true supporter! I couldn't believe it.

This was about a month or 2 ago. It happened again the other day. This along with a lot of his posts gets put to other pages posts raises my doubts.

So Degsy absolutely nothing got to do with Koeman, being positive or negative. You assumed that and then went on a rant about something totally different.

All those things you mentioned you were told Degsy was not by me. Its in your head or maybe someone else said it to you. I certainly didn't.

Now for a little joke, you considered told off Degsy!

29 Nov 2016 12:53:03
In relation to above post, couldn't believe Ed033 asked was he an Everton supporter because that was exactly what I was thinking.

29 Nov 2016 14:02:22
Well that told me then! I will consider myself told off NBTB. However, your post exact words were "are you really an Everton supporter? " I can guarantee that Skylark is an Everton supporter. He posts because he cares. He posts because he is frustrated. I did get all the abuse that I mentioned. how would you feel if I started seriously questioning your support of Everton? . ARE YOU REALLY AN EVERTONIAN? OR PERHAPS A CLOSET RED? There how does that feel? Seriously mate, that is one offensive question to me. When I was about 11 I actually tried to support Liverpool because Everton were being wooped all the time. it lasted about 7 minutes and then I came to my senses! Or perhaps that was the start of my insanity? The pills do help now and therapy costs a fortune. alcohol subdues the effect, but I am still an Evertonian. Same as Skylark.

29 Nov 2016 15:08:57
Thanks for the insight Degsy it explains an awful lot and why your posts don't make much sense a lot of the time.

Again you misread my post. I have to question your intentions myself. Do you intentially misread my posts or do you do it because you think it wineds me up?

You obviously know Skylark outside this blog? You must when you 100% know he is a blue. Otherwise you are speculating. He hasn't answered mine or Ed033 questions.

Again you misread my post. I did not say for sure he is not a blue. I asked was he really an Everton supporter and said I had my suspicions. Not exactly the same thing, is it Degsy. Try reading what's in front of you rather than taking your own conjured up meaning of it.

It doesn't bother me you asking if I'm an Evertonian. Why? Because I know I am and I don't have to prove it to anyone. Never supported anyone else my whole life. Since I was old enough to know what a ball was.

I don't see you attacking Ed033 when he asks the question Degsy? What you saying its ok for him to ask and not me? Pretty obvious I'm not the only one with suspicions of Skylark.

You may well of gotten abuse Degsy but not from me. The Ed's do a great job on here and any abuse is always dealt with accordingly. So if you still have a problem with that I suggest you bring it up with them.

29 Nov 2016 18:22:39
Hey NBTB calm down a bit. I was typing all my stuff with a smile on my face. thinking you were too? Yes I did get abuse and I never said from you. The difference between Ed033 asking and you is that I guess Ed033 is not an Evertonian and you are. If I am wrong on that assumption, then I do apologise. Mate I think I have wound you up but I promise it was unintentional. I apologise for that too. What I would say is that there seems to be 2 types of Evertonian. those who are eternal optomists thinking everything will get better and be hunky dory. Then there are others who saw progress being made under Moyes and were sorry to see him go and now feel we have gone backwards aand worry about the future. This is not meant as a dig or a wind up. it is just my observation. I don't understand your bit about being an Evertonian. I actually copied and pasted what you had typed? But NBTB I really have no problem with you or your views. and the telling off bit was a bit of a laugh which you responded to in a funny way by telling me off. I just hope you are not as wound up as your post reads? All the best Blue. Derek.

{Ed025's Note - lets play nice gents and not get personal, we are in this together and i understand fans frustrations but getting at one anothers throat is not the answer, its ok to have a go at players and managers so long as its constructive but lets not just slag them off for the sake of it, thats all i will say guys..

29 Nov 2016 19:39:28
Agreed Ed025. I have apologised above and had no idea that I was winding NBTB up. I will repeat my apology to him. Sorry mate. Seriously though if Skylark is not an Evertonian I will be flabbergasted. but I do understand his frustrations. And Ed you must remember the abuse I was getting when RM waas appointed and I suggested that Moyes was a good manager but poor at pr. I also got slagged off for my support of Osman and a few other things (mainly my criticism of Kone, Alcaraz and Joel as signings) . but I had no idea I was offending NBTB. and have no desire to do so. Yes we are all Evertonians together. which is why I put the other post about being chosen. and its a flippin burden at times!

{Ed025's Note - at the moment it is degsy, lets draw a line under any squabbling mate and move on, we all have one common goal and that is for everton to succeed which i hope unites us all..

29 Nov 2016 19:41:07
Its ok Degsy. I can be guilty at times for leaving my sense of humour behind and taking things too seriously.

Just one correction, you couldn't of copied and paste mine Degsy because it word for word was 'Really, are you an Evertonian?

Note the really coming first to indicate that I assumed he was or is. Just some of his posts seem a little overly critical, even for this site. When I seen Ed033 asking it was like he was reading my mind.

Anyway no harm done. For the record Degsy I adored Moyes and can't believe you haven't picked up on that. Was against Martinez even before his first game. On them 2 main points I couldn't agree with you more. Its near enough everything in between I don't agree with you. I strongly believe in general the club is going in the right direction.

That's ok it leaves for good banter. Your entitled to your view like am mine and like every person on here. I didn't mean to disrespect Skylark in any way. Or anyone on here for that matter.

Ed025 makes a good point. We should stick together. Support the team as much as we can. Of course it will be frustrating and hard sometimes but we should still stick together.

{Ed025's Note - your right mate..

29 Nov 2016 20:15:26
Degsy. I don't remember the abuse part but the fact you continually went on and on about the same subject frustrated a lot of people me included. Especially as what you said and still say was factually incorrect.

For me the negative statements on here without realising the situation we are in and the lack of understanding of what the club is trying to do frusttates me more than the Osman repeats of Degsy though.

We are changing every part of the club and the manager needs time to get the players and phylosophy in place.

Just calm down and support the team.

29 Nov 2016 19:32:05
NBTB, I never said we would not win anything again I said we would not win the league again in my life time and me being nearly 55 it's not that far from the truth may be a cup or two in us somewhere before I push up some daisies.

29 Nov 2016 20:38:54
Yes, my mistake Skylark. Still, have some faith. Live in hope. 55, your still a good bit away from retirement never mind pushing up the Daisy's. Who knows, you may still be giving out about Everton at 90! That's 35 years. Surely we'll get lucky in just one of them years.

29 Nov 2016 21:10:53
Friends, Romans, NBTB 😂😂 let's all get behind the blues, think we will need it this weekend.

29 Nov 2016 22:28:45
I like a good love in! All Blues together lol! Ed025 noneed to worry, We all have the same aspirations and frustrations. I also know I go on a bit about certain subjects. I am so passionate about Everton I only want the best. something to do with nil satis I guess! Jee there is going to be one helluva party if we get back to where we belong!

29 Nov 2016 23:25:07
There's no ifs Degsy just when.

Believe it or not I love your passion about the club. In fact everyones passion on here. Skylark, NBTB, you, me, all of us. We're the real fans. We waste hours on here. You all like me probably spend most days talking non stop Everton. All with different opinions but have the most in common in that we want the blues to be successful.

For me unlike failures of the past, I can see something just over the horizon. We need a COUPLE of good windows to inspire the fans AND the players. It would act like antibiotics against this infection of spite that there is amongst the fans.
From there I hope we can start to find some harmony and start to look forward.

I'm not blind or deluded about our current situation but I know it takes time and it takes even longer when you have a multitude of areas going through a similar process.

Right now it's all trial and error. When there is no solution at hand we will have to go and find the answer. The difference now is we have the funds and impetus to do it.







 

 

 
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