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07 Feb 2017 14:10:10
I posted on rumour page why would you listen to Martinez about our defense. I didn't want to comment any more on it but I can't resist myself. Here's a few things about Martinez as manager and defense.

When he took over at Wigan they conceded 45 goals the previous season. What did the concede in his first season in charge? Almost double that 79! Good crack at breaking the record held by Derby with 89 goals conceded in the premiership.

The following 2 season's seen Martinez Wigan concede 61 and 62 I think it will was. Then in his third and final season when the were relegated they conceded 73. From 45 goals when he took over to that. In those 4 years he did manage to break a record. Most goals conceded away from home in the premiership with 55 goals.

He then has the nerve to come out and criticise our defense which imho is the most improved defense this season. Next season I imagine it to be even better when Koeman gets more of his ideas and methods across. Which probably includes defending set pieces.

It really shows how deluded he was and how lucky we were after getting rid of him. He might have some sort of an argument about his attacking play. But his defense always was one of the most diabolical I've seen any managers.

His first season everyone knows why the defense was solid. The second and third year he was at Everton showed his undoubted neglect and nonexistent knowledge of defense.

Koeman is a different story. Very impressed with how he has conducted our defense this season. The best thing is it will only get better. He is after all only here 6 months after the shambles that defenseless manager left behind him.

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07 Feb 2017 17:11:18
Brilliant post NBTB. The man is a complete lemon. It all sounded like sour grapes to me. He failed to mention that we have the 4th best defence in the league!

Listening to him talk was like someone scratching nails down a blackboard.

07 Feb 2017 17:11:43
Thanks for this-just shows that sometimes statistics don't lie. I share your faith in Ronald Koeman. I have every confidence that he will improve the whole team's performance. After all "defence" is not just about the back four (or five! ) .

07 Feb 2017 17:31:13
NBTB that is amazing info. but mate, you have wayyyyyy too much time on your hands! Joking aside, I remember Bill Kenright saying "how positive our manager is". and me thinking "thats all well and good, but I hope he is still positive in a year or too if things go wrong! " Unfortunately, as we all know, things went very wrong. But, the past is the past and I think we all know how perilously close we were to the ruination of our great club. The standard of recent signings has been infinitely superior overall. but I will still say thank you to RM for the signing of Lukaku and even Barry and Robles/ McCarthy and possibly Besic. So even though I agree totally with what you say, there were good things he did.

{Ed025's Note - yeah..including leaving degs.. :)

07 Feb 2017 19:09:45
The irony is he's talked himself into the Belgium job with a world class squad. Even he may succeed there.

07 Feb 2017 19:55:18
Too much time on my hands. Not really Degsy. More like i make really bad choices about what I spend my time at. It just got up my nose. Talk about hypocrites!

Your last line Degsy has a certain air of sarcasm to it Degsy!? After all we had plenty of debates about that exact thing. You sound exactly like I did at the start of them debates when talking about Martinez :-)

Lennon didn't exactly set Everton a light but can't really say he was a bad signing. Mori is decent also. Holgate, Galloway. They are the ones that were ok to good along with the players you mentioned. As for the rest? Well, let's just say we are better not mentioning them at all.

07 Feb 2017 20:18:52
Degsy, you say he did some good things, the best thing he did was to get himself sacked.

07 Feb 2017 22:42:58
I thought you might point those little things out NBTB. But no I wasnt being sarcastic. perhaps I just started listening to your side of the view? Respecting your points!

08 Feb 2017 08:32:32
As they say Degsy the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.







 

 

 
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