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24 May 2017 17:59:39
It's not really our call what constitutes success for them. Lescott, Arteta and Fellaini all made a lot more money, played in the champs league and won at least one major trophy. Arteta captained Arsenal when they won the FA Cup. John Stones hasn't won a trophy yet but he has made the cash and played in the CL. He's also, let's face it, better place to win a trophy. Whatever we think, I doubt any of them would look back and think, "Wish I'd stayed put. "

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24 May 2017 19:02:08
Great point. I thank these players for their service and look forward to the next season.

24 May 2017 21:16:34
I'm guessing this is referring to the thread on the rumours page coyb. I agree it is not 'our call' on what is success but everyone is entitlef to there opinion. Arteta at least stayed with Arsenal for a proper length of time. I did say his success was debatable. Meaning 50/ 50, 60/ 40, whatever.

But Lescott? Really? First of all when I talk about success I don't talk about an individual players bank balance. I talk about his performances on the pitch. Which imho is reflected on how much their club wants them to stay. City let Lescotts contract run down as far as I'm aware at the age of 31. A centre backs peak time of his career. Look Terry what age is he after winning the League. Now that is success.

Lescott was with City for 4 or 5 years and individually was he successful? We all know City were successful. Lescott imho was not one of the main players during his brief period at a successful City squad. He was a squad player. They didn't want to keep him. Would City say 'There is a big return on our investment. ' Imho No but its not for me to say.

Who wanted him after City didn't? WBA, Aston Villa and AEK in Greece, o yea and Sunderland. Desperate signing by them. 2 appearances all year. It has to be a record getting relegated 2 seasons in a row from the premiership but Lescott being successful managed that one. Last season after posting a picture of his motor at Villa. Showed how he measures success.

This season after 2 appearances with Sunderland. At 34 now still now too old to play on for a centre back where will he go? Who will have him. Distin played on until nearly 40. Imho he was a far better player.

Would Everton look at Lescott now and say 'Pity we didn't still have Lescott' I'd doubt it but its not for me to call.

Fellaini can't be properly seen as success or not imho. Not many Utd fans seem delighted he was bought. For the record imho he is undervalued by the Utd supporters but is appreciated by Mourinho. I hope he wins plenty of medals and is a success at Utd. Not like Djemba Djemba who probably has plenty of medals at a successful Utd squad. Was he a success?

24 May 2017 21:28:26
Exactly New Blue in the U. The only players I'd like to see at Everton are players who want to play for Everton. Not mercenaries or self righteous players. For example Coleman, Baines and Jagielka.

25 May 2017 06:39:34
Yeah it was supposed to go on the rumours page NBTB:-)
Lescott may not have been one of City's stars and Fellaini isn't liked by Utd fans, you're right. I still suspect they both feel they made the right decision moving. Others didn't, of course - Pienaar, Rodwell, etc. And I suspect Ross may actually be in this latter category if he goes. I can't see him as a success at that level. Lescott was a good defender in his day, Arteta was class, Fellaini. has been lucky, I think, but at least he's a physical presence in a team. Ross is not leaving Everton for glory with anyone else, whatever he thinks.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that coyb mate..

25 May 2017 08:22:15
I never said any of these players were in any way bad players just that their success after leaving Everton was not achieved to where it would of been thought before they leave. I agree totally Arteta was class. He spent a long time at Arsenal. Lescott was a good defender at Everton. With City not so good. Fellaini like I said imho is underrated by the Utd supporters and was probably our best player while he was with Everton.

Who knows why Ross is leaving Everton? Say what you want about him at least he did / is keeping quiet about it. Not like Rom who is not shy about his personal ambitions.

If Ross and Rom do decide to go Everton will cope without them. Just like Everton always has when players leave.

The only true 100% success story after a player left Everton for success is Wayne Rooney. He done it all. Utd played him well because they wanted to keep and he broke all sorts of records. Arteta and Fellaini have some certain amount of individual success. As for the rest imho it is very limited.

25 May 2017 09:31:28
This is all subjective, in my opinion: Arteta, Fellani and Lescott made successful moves. Rodwell and Gosling didnt. Who knows how Ross will get on. He is not the finished article so if he goes to the right team with a coaching staff that can get the best out of him then good luck to the lad. Just can't see that happening at any of the top 6 English teams.







 

 

 
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