26 Jul 2017 15:27:59
with Koeman confirming no bids for Barkely looks as though clubs are going to wait for Him until towards the end of the window, which sadly means we won't get what he is worth.50 mil was just a figure plucked out of the air. but it would be nice to get at least half that sum. let. s hope there is more than one club scavenging around in a few weeks so there is a little bidding war. I can't help feeling that a bit of tapping up has gone on behind the scenes for ross to be confident of getting a champions league club and to stick to his stance. that through another player friend he has been told to sit tight and wait for them to come in as Everton's bargaining position weakens (probably spurs) towards the end of august. If that is not the case he is certainly playing a high risk game because if he doesn't get an option he wants, he won't just slot in anymore here after the blues signings are complete. while he has natural talent, he was talked up way too much by Martinez. Ballack comparisons were embarrassing. and he needed someone to tell him to use his head more in thinking out the game. Koeman tried that and unfortunately looks as though the player wasn't able to accept criticism and work harder. He may thrive elsewhere but like others I wonder if it will be another tale of leaving the blues only later to regret he hadn't listened to common sense.
26 Jul 2017 16:04:43
Interested to hear why you all think he hasn't pushed on, he burst onto the scene but seems to have at best stood still, possibly regressed. I used to really rate him but recently he seems to have dropped off a lot. One of the Eds suggested his lifestyle isn't great and he doesn't take care of himself.
If there are no offers I guess he will sit tight until January, right now I don't see how he gets into a Champions League team.
26 Jul 2017 16:21:33
Is there any chance at all that Barkley could consider a new contract offer with an agreeable release clause? For a local lad who supposedly loves the club, wouldn't he want us to get a fee, even if it was £15m. The price wouldn't put off potential suitors, he would still get his money and we don't completely lose out. Or would he pocket a nice chunk of change for being a free agent?
26 Jul 2017 16:49:41
Yes he is now a grown Man and no doubt talented. Expectations in my view were way over the top by some supporters and hence the abuse the lad got at some home games quite uncalled for.
26 Jul 2017 18:28:47
It is the boys to men situation. Growing up with other kids it's easy to be "king of the kids".
It happens with all starlets, not unique to Ross and I hope his next move is the making of him.
Rooney is a great example of how to keep progressing, keep pushing the boundaries and striving for improvement. In his short time back home it has been documented how well he leads and sets a good example, especially with the kids.
Some, and I'm not saying it's the case with Ross, think when they make the first team that's it I'm a superstar now (remember Cadamaterri) .
When you go from being the big noise in a select group to mixing with seasoned pros and internationals some fail to progress. Some go on to have good careers as pros.
The problem with Ross is he has the potential and ability to be a top drawer player. Is his head right, does he get bad advice, does he mix in the wrong circles I don't know.
His move, and he will move, will either make or break him, another Rooney or another Rodwell?
I hope he becomes a fantastic player and shows everyone he can do it even for another challenging club. Even with all his Man Utd years I have always admired and been proud of Rooney, Why?, because he's one of ours as is Ross.
Good luck son and let's hope you become one of the best players we have ever produced.
26 Jul 2017 20:08:25
Well said Young Guns.
26 Jul 2017 20:30:02
Good post Young Guns although I disagree wth your view of Rooney. He may have matured but he often turned up for pre season overweight and the general view was he didn't put in the hours that some of the more committed players did.
We have debated him at length on the United page, he has broken records, will go down as legend but generally most feel he never delivered to hs potential. Harsh possibibly but a widely held view. I hope the move back to Everton gives him a new lease of life.
As for Ross, he's clearly a talented boy, perhaps he needs a fresh challenge (assuming he has the right attitude) .
26 Jul 2017 21:10:11
Ross's confidence is fragile. It's a shame Martinez was manager as due to his incompetence we became a spiteful audience. As Ross was one of our own on the pitch he was the focal point of hatred by the fans when things didn't go our way. Martinez had him playing a certain way and we didn't like it and it destroyed his confidence and we have never took to him as fans.
Now with Koeman wanting a stronger mentality in the team and a no nonsense attitude to boot he is not able to take the criticism and use it as a driving force.
He needs to go and start again somewhere else but he will never make it at the top level. Such a shame.
26 Jul 2017 22:00:47
Totally agree BlueJohnUns except for the last paragraph. Not saying he's a cert to make it but not saying he won't either. Time will reveal all.
27 Jul 2017 09:10:58
I hope he does NBTB. I've always believed he'd make it.