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15 Dec 2017 19:34:59
Am well impressed with Big Sam in his comments on the importance of Sammy Lee, especially on how vocal and passionate on the touchline he is and also his enthusiasm for the club, this is something we have not seen at Everton for a very long time, add to that Craig Shakespear up in the stands, and this for me is something that the club have really lacked with the last couple of managers we have had here, i can only see this present set up getting better and better and truly helping us to climb the league, hope Big Sam is given a good amount of cash for the January window, can only see Sam getting on well at Everton and hope it will be for the long term.

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15 Dec 2017 21:45:27
Fully agree mate.

15 Dec 2017 23:16:19
Totally agree GuernseyBlue. There is plenty coming out now praising Sam. Where were these people before?

The only people on here I seen happy with big Sam and sticking up for him were you GuernseyBlue and Grumpytoffee. They may be more but very few.

I'm gobsmacked by the English view on British managers. I'm Irish and I stick up for them more than the English themselves.

Wasn't it lovely to see fancy Klopp losing it? The foreign manager coming in and thinking he's better than everyone. Big Sam gave him a rude awakening on the English premier league.

There are good British managers if they were just given a chance. Look at Burnley! Man City are flying high because Pep inherited big bucks. How would Pep do at Everton? Nothing like Sam is doing. That's a proper manager. Someone who doesn't need boat load's of money to improve a team.

Big Sam will continue the climb up the table. I have no doubt. 7th at worst come the end of the season. Who would of thought that a month ago?

{Ed025's Note - i must admit that i was the biggest sceptic of the lot when sam was appointed NBTB, at the moment i am happily eating my words, and the organisation and attitude has been first class so humble pie is definitely on my menu mate, long may it continue..

16 Dec 2017 03:06:02
He certainly has done a good job so far and I like the way Big Sam talks about "we" and "us" when taking about Everton. Little Sam also seems to be totally committed to the club regardless of his Liverpool background. It is also good to see that Allardyce and Walsh apparently get on well together which is critical to our future recruitment.

16 Dec 2017 03:17:56
NBTB feel free to look at my profile and banter post for 4th November.

16 Dec 2017 06:04:10
I think the jury can't even go out on this yet. Even Samophobes would not question his ability to organise and plug leaks in the ship. So thus far he has done what everyone should have expected he could. What is in question is his ability to refit the ship and steer it in the direction that we would like it to go. Only a good deal more time will settle those doubt. In the meantime see what is being done and appreciate it for what it is.

16 Dec 2017 08:17:51
Cheers folks we can sum it up in one word what is happening at Everton, PASSION we haven’t had that for a long time.

16 Dec 2017 09:10:21
I agree with all that has been said except for the Pep bit. Since he came in, yes he has had a bit of money to spend but not particularly mega bucks when you compare what other clubs (us included) have spent. Yet the improvement on Man City has been nothing short of phenominal. All the pundits are saying the Man City team is playing the best football ever and the record of 15 successive wins (so far and still going) is staggering. I remember having debates on here about John Stones ability and how defenders should be able to play football and not just hoof it into row z. And without raking up old discussions/ arguments, I suggest that yes John Stones' defending has improved a bit. but the reason Man City have improved so much is that Pep has themplaying all the way through the team. Even the keeper (as is ours now) is capable of getting the ball under control and moving it to another player to draw the other team out of position. Our kids in youth football are not taught this in the main. They are taught to hoof it and it becomes habit. William is a classic example. I agree that sometimes it makes you very nervous as a fan. Sometimes it makes the player look poor (John Stones at Everton) . especially when other players are not "showing" for the ball. But watch Man City. every player wants that ball and every player is comfortable to retain it unless under the most extreme pressure. Maybe Kompany is not quite so good. but I can foresee Stones taking his place. This is the Spanish way. The Brazilian way. The French way. But as yet not totally the English way. but things are changing.

16 Dec 2017 09:50:43
I have to say I didn't want Sam but then again I wanted Koeman, that aside I like what I see but, the litmus test for Sam will be getting us to keep hold of the ball in midfield and using the ball better without compromising the solid defence. This must be the next progression for the team and this is the big question mark over Allardyce that he has to this day not answered. However we will get behind him and I do hope he gets that balance, because if he does we are in for a really positive 18 months.

16 Dec 2017 10:29:50
I take your point BeStryne. I did say there may be others but very few. You obviously fall into the very few category. Apologies the 2 I mentioned were the only 2 I could think of.

degsyp I don't take your point as you misunderstood mine. Your back with a bang. Stones seeing that you mentioned him was my favourite player while at Everton so you'll have no argument about him from me.

City have spent crazy money before Pep came in and spent more after. So Pep didn't inherit a squad like Big Sam did or RH at Crystal Palace. Granted they are doing the stuff at City. But as I said you missed my point.

How would Pep do at Everton? Or any team where he would have to build it up and get the best out of what is available?

There is nothing spared at City. What he wants he gets. Big Sam gave Klopp a good lesson on how to get a result with a team that was struggling against a team that was on top form.

Thats what big Sam does. He turns the tide and I'm delighted he's at Everton. He has the resources now to show what he can do. That's a luxury. A luxury Pep takes for granted as he got it in abundance everywhere he managed so far.

16 Dec 2017 11:12:23
Same as that mate I was a Koeman fan and thought he was the dogs dangly bits, i hold my hands up, how wrong I was.

15 Dec 2017 23:40:50
I also said i would eat that humble pie of his bare arse if he gets us into europe.
Just polishing my knife and fork as we speak 😂.

{Ed025's Note - love it pauly..

16 Dec 2017 11:32:12
Sorry Guernsey. I guess you meant this post. obviously I had read it. Agree with you too NBTB. I must have missed your point. Yes Pep would definately struggle without loads of dosh and a squad that already had the basics there. but he has them at City playing total football. that's my point. Stones fits into that system because he is a good natural footballer. There were loads of comments on here a while back suggesting that there is a time and place for playing football and if you are under pressure, hoof it away. because Stones did not do this he was constantly criticised by many Evertonians. yes his positional sense has improved a bit. but he is basically the same player in a system of playing football. I will sum up with a comment in response. yes there is a time and a place for playing football. it is 90 minutes on the football pitch. but if you are not good enough . yes hoof it out. But I agree we are not good enough yet and accept that Big Sam will need to stabilise the club before he gets the better players in and turns us into a footballing team.

16 Dec 2017 12:42:35
Sorry NBTB, wrote that late last night and reading back it looks a bit blunt hahaha, just pointing out how long ago I believed we needed SA and my thoughts on him.

16 Dec 2017 13:22:39
No need to be sorry BeStryne. You weren't blunt at all. I'm just glad you value big Sam.

Good posts above. I like you GuernseyBlue hold my hands up. I wanted Koeman and I was wrong. That's why I respect Ed025 and Pauly above when the talk about humble pie. Love the post Pauly. We all eat the humble pie every so often. Whether we like it or not.

16 Dec 2017 16:48:57
Some well written and thought out replies above.

Thank you for the mention as well NBTB.

The good thing with humble pie is we generally only ever eat it when something good is happening.

17 Dec 2017 10:47:50
Hi Grumpy mate good post, we all know how to eat humble pie mate it's just we had forgotten how, it's been so long since something good has happened to the team.



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