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20 Dec 2017 19:07:13
Ed25, I know you didn't want Sam but results have improved, even if the football has not been great.
Do you feel sam and his team have the ability to develop the team and squad to keep getting results whilst improving the quality of the football?
Also if sam feels he is getting too old amd steps down at the end of the season do you feel Shakespeare will take over or do you think sam will stay for a few years?

{Ed025's Note - sam has done a fine job up to now geoff and even though the quality has been lacking the fight has certainly been there, we need to step it up on the creativity and entertainment side now, if sam did decide to go i could not think of a worse replacement than shakespeare mate..hes a number 2...and i mean that literally.. :)

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21 Dec 2017 09:33:50
Sorry ed have to disagree we want to be playing boring winning football until the side is totally settled and we have at least 35 point in the bank. If we start trying to be entertaining now then we may end up where we where at the start of the season. Our defence is still weak and needs to be supported by the midfield once our defence is sorted then maybe we can look to be a more entertaining side.

{Ed025's Note - i can see your logic sa but i think defending starts up front anyway, the more time we spend in our opponents half the less our defence has to do mate..

21 Dec 2017 10:18:33
Ed025 We are far from being the finished yet you want us to be playing as though we are. It just does not make sense to me.

If we had appointed your first choice manager would you still be saying the same thing? or would you be saying things like it is a work in progress and the early signs look promising?

Geoff as for Sam stepping down at the end of the season, well that just is not going to happen, he held out for a longer contract, he is hardly going leave before it ends as he would lose out so much financially when we sue him.

21 Dec 2017 12:07:42
Big Sam's own words 'The defense is a lot more solid now. We can expand the attacking dimension of the team now'.

He's not only about defending and my hunch is he is determined to prove that Everton. Every team should be solid at the back first then good attacking play. No other way works. Look at Liverpool, great attacking. Their downfall is defense.

They won't win anything that way. Sam will surprise a lot of people at Everton imho.

{Ed025's Note - i hope your right mate..

21 Dec 2017 12:09:13
I am in 2 minds here. Whilst I agree with Ed025 that attack is often the best form of defence, I also agree we can't afford to be too expansive until the defence is rock solid. Maybe a happy medium can be found in the meantime.

{Ed025's Note - thats what its all about big H..

21 Dec 2017 22:13:06
I never understand why people think you can only defend well if you lump the ball up 50 yards. Sam's downfall will be if he doesn't learn how to have his team like having the ball and he won't be successful.

The best defenses in world football have been Peps and Enrique. Why because they like having the ball and they defend from the front which puts them straight on the attack when then win the ball back.

I'm not saying this this type of football we must play as it takes time to develop. However, we need to keep the ball much better than we do.

If we play against Chelsea with the same attitude as the Derby we will get beat. Stay calm, be confident and look at where you want the ball to go. Aimless hoofing will only bring relentless pressure.

He's done well Sam but he needs to be more than what he's done in the past with any of the teams he's been with.

{Ed025's Note - i agree john, we afforded the red lot 80% possession in the derby and only for luck and some terrible finishing we could have been mullered, we need to retain the ball a hell of a lot more and push opposing teams away from our box mate..

22 Dec 2017 11:08:53
So far Allardyce has been up to the job and his word. I keep saying this but what has the bloke actually done wrong, at Blackburn he was screwed over by that little brown droppings SK, at England - listen to the attempted sting and Sams reply. Everywhere else he has adapted and adopted tactics and methods to suit what he has, which financially up until now he has not had. I think the Chelsea game is a little to soon but let's look again after January. I honestly believe people will change their outlook and opinion.



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