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04 Mar 2018 11:38:19
Lots of nativity on this page and around the club this weekend, even had an argument with my Dad yesterday over Everton and we never do that! Lots justified but now it’s seems to spread to the players who simply don't deserve it. Seen a handful of posts saying we should drop Pickford for Robles. are you kidding me!?!?!? The lad made some incredible saves yesterday and has done all season. He on many occasions has kept us in many games this year, yet he seems to be getting some stick.

Two centre backs were woeful yesterday but if you look at it what else could have really been picked? Muri hasn’t a competitive games in 18mounths, Jags is injured and Holgate (if we all take the blue tinted glasses off and the disappointment if their performances yesterday) is no better than Keane or Williams, only difference is he is young and will get better. Wouldn't have helped yesterday.

Bottom line is lads 2 very poor transfer windows have screwed us (on paper they looked good but christ they haven't worked out) and the people who run the club are being pushed about by a bloke who doesn't know football (don’t want rid of him by the way, just a statement) . Ed002 put it best with his post with three comments. 1, “The real issue is that the club (a) has a primary owner who is not a footballing guy but a businessman” 2, “SA has a job to do and he is not being helped by SW being in place - but he is a strong enough character to deal with it. His job this season was simply to get the club safe, and as stable as possible - and he is on course to do that, regardless of how pretty the football is - it was never going to turn around overnight” and 3, “Many of the fans are seemingly not prepared to get behind the club and give their support”

I understand there is a lot of hatred for SA but I keep backing him for one reason…… name a manager, that would take the role and do a better job than he is now? I have asked this question several times on this page, got loads of posts saying am wrong but not one person named a viable replacement. Prove me wrong (for gods sake, please someone prove me wrong) but at this moment in time he is the best option we have with the below average squad we have. Get behind the club, the players and the manager.

Rant over, 6 nations is back on next weekend so hopefully the rugby will give me something to smile about!

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04 Mar 2018 12:48:57
do a better job than him? really, he is doing nothing for us, other than creating a lot of unrest with the fans and players, he stands on the touchline laughing when we are losing, he is only here for a quick buck, and take walsh with him, another who is getting money under false pretences.

04 Mar 2018 12:49:43
Don’t Chelsea, Arsenal and City have owners who are not footballing men?
Difference as I see it is they get managers who have a winning mentality. Not one who thinks a draw is a good result.
And apart from Arsenal, the other two make decisions quickly, hence if your not performing your out. Before anyone says that’s no way to run a football club, then count the trophys they have.
Your either a winner or a loser, and right now we are losers, because we have management that still thinks top six is a good season. Moshiri has to change the management in the club first, then the manager, and then the players who simply are not good enough.

04 Mar 2018 13:29:09
Marco Silva is available and would do a better job, plus would be a good long term option.

04 Mar 2018 13:33:54
It would be quicker to name the managers that would do a worse job than him. The decline in results is shameful.
What I see with Sam is, a player has to have half a dozen poor performances for them to be dropped, look at schneiderlin as an example.
I have seen holgate make a couple of big mistakes this season but I haven't seen him put as poor a performance in as those 2 yesterday.

Tosun looked good until he tired but he might have been like that for the last few weeks but we wouldn't know because he wasn't deemed good enough to get on the pitch.
I thinking you give him 3 or 4 starts the lad is going to show he his head and shoulders above our other strikers.
As for SW getting in Sam's way, wasn't it SW who got him the job? they are good friends along with Shakespeare.

04 Mar 2018 15:28:36
Fonseca all day long.

04 Mar 2018 15:40:45
Tiffa to take your last point first a Manager that would do a better job than SA is Dyche but apparently the Club did not even pick up the phone to him. As Ed002 says (much respect by the way does seem to know his stuff) we have an owner that is a business man not a footballing man. For me from the outside looking in, he (Mr Moshri) seems to be taking advice from the wrong people - perhaps the same people that have made a hash of it so far - he really does need to spend some cash on hiring a good footballing man as consultant, (Glenn Hoddle for me, the man is very knowledgeable, he has other irons in the fire but could advise us for a fee) next sideways push or get rid of the roadblock DoF. Tiffa I to was a supporter of Sam but enough is enough as soon as we are mathematically safe he has to go. Sam Alardyce stats are worse than Koeman's that is fact, his tactics and substitutions are bizarre.

04 Mar 2018 15:37:38
I am not going to get involved with this thread other to say good post Tiffa.

04 Mar 2018 18:41:53
Woeburn, Silva failed at Hull and failed at Watford (albeit using Everton as an excuse) .

04 Mar 2018 19:22:26
Don't think I mentioned Silva ducks.?

04 Mar 2018 19:37:30
whoops sorry Woburn. It is all getting to me now.

05 Mar 2018 08:36:21
I think we are harsh saying Silva failed at Hull and at Watford.

Don't want to get into an argument over it but Hull were virtually down before he took over and Watford, with a weaker squad on paper, are above us in the league, some of it down to the foundations built by Silva and taken over by the new manager.
It's hard to pick a manager who hasn't failed at some time
Dyche took Burnley down in 14/ 15
Did Guardiola fail last year at City
Is Conte failing now at Chelsea
Is Wenger a failure now
Klopp hasn't won anything

The point is we need to look for a young, improving manager who can develop us into a top 4 side in the next 3-4 years and get the fans back. No one has a perfect CV. They'll need a bit of luck and some patience from us all whether it be Fonseca, Dyche, Silva or ANO.

Unfortunately though my patience has run out with Big Sam and for the good of the club we need to change.

05 Mar 2018 09:42:42
Most importantly is to get a manager who understands Everton and can get the squad playing a brand of football befitting of EFC.
second most important thing for me is, as we have so many up and coming home grown players, I would like a manager who has a reputation for improving young players. If we can get that, imagine what we could achieve with all the promising youngsters at our club.



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