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15 Mar 2018 09:32:01
Jusst so people know I am not a Sam supporter as is. I do agree that he is his own worst enemy with pre aand post match comments. He talks about himself far too much and not the club (see Unsworth for how to talk up the club) he does blame players when he should look at himself. and yes the footy is dire at times. and that's where I blame the squad. which was assembled by Koeman, Martinez and Walsh. Nothing to do with Sam at all. I think any manager in the world would struggle with that squad. For a club like ours to have so many duffers/ kids/ OAP'S/ right footers/ no left footers. is criminal! That happened over 8 years not 3 months!

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15 Mar 2018 14:14:28
Great post.

15 Mar 2018 16:47:42
Degsy even under Moyes we were rubbish. We haven't been good since 96. However, you've got to start looking at the future Degsy and stop dwelling on the past.

You've also got to stop looking at 11 years with Moyes as if it was some kind of utopian period littered with wonderful football and magnificent players.

It amazes me we have supporters who accept this failure as success.

Good managers can turn individuals even bad ones, into teams. Royle 1996.

15 Mar 2018 18:04:51
According to Allardyce our wretched away form is down to injuries, Degsy.
Another foot in mouth comment in his press conference.

15 Mar 2018 18:13:53
It is symptomatic of this season Blue John. Nil satis nisi optimum means nothing to some anymore, mediocrity has been accepted as the norm.

15 Mar 2018 20:33:23
Have to disagree about Sam and the squad, when Sam took over, he over looked Klaassen, Lookman, persisted with picking Schnids, Williams, playing Martina at left back, Calvert Lewin and Siggerson on the wing, has also overlooked Vlassic and persisted playing Bolasie, we had Wayne Rooney on ten goals, now playing further back, blamed the weather for Tosun not playing, we had Beningame who was playing well now nowhere near the starting 11, say what you like about the squad but There were players there Sam could have tried, it took a ban for Williams not to be included but I guarantee he will come straight back in, within two weeks of his ban ending, it’s just my opinion in regards to not Sams fault, not all of it but certainly a big percentage of his set up play, especially away from home.

15 Mar 2018 20:34:58
Message to BJU and Smit666.I never once mentioned Moyes in my post? So why you have brought it up BJU, I am not sure? And Smit666. I just flipping said Allardyce shoots himself in the foot with his comments so am not sure why you are pointing this out to me?

15 Mar 2018 20:44:00
Only pointing it out Degsy as I didn't know whether you had seen the conference. It was to merely back up your reference.
Apologies if it was misconstrued.

15 Mar 2018 20:54:57
Degsy mate you don't half take a lot of flak on here. You keep getting cast in the role of a panto villain by some posters. Maybe you should embrace it and end all of your posts with a Bwahahahahahahaaaa!

15 Mar 2018 21:37:31
Now Siggerson is injured, I would play Rooney further upfield, with an option to recall Gana or Beningame to play where Rooney was playing, two little tweaks, with an option of Klassen coming off the bench to replace a tiring Rooney. Stick with the same back four, with Tosun as the main striker.

15 Mar 2018 21:50:58
Thanks Onlyhaveeyes. yeah I agree with people and they still want to pick a fight with me sometimes. Bwahahahahahaha! . did I say it right?

15 Mar 2018 23:21:30
You infer it Degsy. You're trying not to mention his name but things like 8 years or anything you can reference back to Moyes time at the club.

I'm not picking on you. It just sounds bloody crazy everytime you go back to his time at the club. We've had three managers and a caretaker since.

16 Mar 2018 12:16:58
And I have to say BJU those 3 have had much more funds than the previous 2 managers yet the club has gone backwards. I could go back further and point out mistakes under agent Johnson and with the likes of Mike Walker. But I think recent history and recent managers is what we are talking about. whilst yes I have gone on about Moyes' stabilising the club in past posts. I think you were reading too much into it this post. all I was saying is that we have not made progress under the last 2 managers when they have had almost limitless amounts of funds available to them. If anything, we have gone backwards and I think we were pretty close to the wheels coming off this season and a possible relegation scenario. That could result in Moshiri throwing his toys out of the pram and potentially a Leeds United scenario with us. It was mainly criticism of Koeman, Martinez and Walsh. ie showing that everyone blaming Sam Allergy is rather unfair in my view. Yes he may be crap. Yes he may say the wrong things. but a new manager would not take us up that table much in my view because the squad is wrong. A squad mainly weak because of the previous 2 managers and a DOF who has made poor decisions.

16 Mar 2018 13:13:01
I can't say I've ever seen on this site anyone solely blame Sam Allardyce for all of Evertons's faults. I sure all of us agree that Martinez, Koeman and Walsh, plus probably the directors have all contributed.
I'm glad you seem to agree that SA might have been 'crap' and 'say the wrong things' (plus set the team up wrong against Spurs, Arsenal and Burnley to name just a few, continue to pick Williams and Scheiderlin for far too long, demonstrate very little man management skills etc etc. )
We all need to put the past behind us and focus on the future which brings us back to BJU's questions. Will we play attractive football under SA, will we win trophies and will we break into the top 4. To me the answer is no, No, NO. We need to change.

16 Mar 2018 15:13:08
Put like that bw2412. I can't argue except for maybe one thing. sometimes a football club needs stability. perhaps the stability we need is only until the end of this season when we start again? I do understand many of the points raised and I also agree 100% that Allergy does shoot himself in the foot with some outrageous statements at times (usually when he opens his mouth) and I agree that Schneiderlin should have been dropped many many games ago. and I agree that he picked negative formations. but my previous points still stand. he is just the latest mistake that Everton Football Club have made. there have been plenty of other mistakes along the way and too many supporters see Allergy as the whole story and seem to think we have fine players and a decent squad. none of which is true in my mind!

16 Mar 2018 23:29:48
I can totally understand people who want him to stay until we are mathematically safe and we are nearly there thank goodness. After that let's do what's best for the future of the club.
Thank him, give him a deserved/ contracted big pay-off and let's move on. NSNO.

17 Mar 2018 12:29:33
I understand what you're saying Degsy. I'm not dismissing what Moyes done at all by the way. He just wasn't a winning manager. We wasted 11 years. Some call it stabilisation but it was more accurately stagnation. Nothing to do with money either as was pointed out the other day on here. He had plenty.

New projects, managers, players all generate interest, excitement and fear. It's that fear that creates focus and ambition which Moyes never had. He could finish 4th bottom and still have a job. That was the biggest mistake we made as a club. Plus we feared we would fall through the floor if Moyes left. 4 years on and we're still here.







 

 

 
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