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18 Mar 2018 09:21:21
Hit send before I finished the last post. My point was that most other teams, including us, are roughly where we should expect to be. Maybe there is something to look at in terms of which managers are doing a good job or which club structures are working well? Are there any common features among those clubs who are seeing relative success and those who are not? I see a similarity in the types of managers that West Brom, Stoke, West Ham and Palace have gone for - older, more traditional types (though not Southampton) . Where do you guys think we fit into this picture?

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18 Mar 2018 19:08:31
You make some great points coyb and the way I see it, we are sort of an exception to the rule. Allardyce was brought in on his rep as a relegation dodger, but more than likely with the full intention of replacing him and rebuilding at the end of the season. With the manager merry go round at the other clubs at the bottom, the pattern I see is simply old school management. Hodgeson, Moyes, Hughes and even Pardew are old school disciplinarians, who insist on hard work and a tough love approach, which conforms nicely with the need to 'steady the ship' approach required to stave off relegation. However, I think this only suits a survival mentality and is not the answer to club progression in the modern game. At the other end of the spectrum, in the top 6, you have your Morinho's, Conte's, Klopp's and Wengers (sounds like a terribly whiny law firm) who are all successful but very emotional. Each has had thier flip outs in the media, or fallen out with players, most of whom are very young millionaires. The level of ego they must deal with is a gulf away from the plucky underdog mentalities of the next 14 and so a different set of rules for success. Old school just can't keep up with the pace of a top 6 club, as Moyes discovered. That's also why I think a top manager like Conte would struggle with a club like Crystal Palace, as its almost a different world. I think this ties into your thoughts on how the wage bills affect the game in general. Until this gulf is lessoned by fairer financial rules in the PL, the top 6 (and staying there) may as well be a different universe.







 

 

 
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