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18 Mar 2018 20:14:16
Hey Grumpy mate have you read the article in the rags re Big Sams treatment of Cenk and how he has played a blinder by easing the Striker in, saying how he knew much better than Everton fans how to play him much to the fans annoyance and how he has proved them wrong, no doubt there will still be those on her who don't agree lol.

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18 Mar 2018 20:39:45
Lol not read it yet GB mate. Only a few weeks ago mate some on here saying we are definitely going down remember, He's proved them wrong about that as well lol.

{Ed025's Note - a managers popularity will always depend on results grumpy, lose a few and your crap, win a few and your the best thing since sliced bread, ahh the fickle football fans will always be the same mate..

18 Mar 2018 22:11:26
Sam has no idea, we where lucky yesterday.

18 Mar 2018 22:31:28
Not being funny ed but if Sam won all 38 games next season some fans would still want him out. I don't like him at all but I'll support the club as usual. I hope for a change of manager in the summer but if Sam still here then I will support him and the players he signs and plays.

{Ed025's Note - i feel exactly the same geoff mate..

18 Mar 2018 23:38:42
Only problem i have with sam is his. We lost. players fault. we won. all down to me. I'll support any player or anyone in dugout but he is seriously not the man to take us forward.

19 Mar 2018 08:08:17
I think there is a lot with your view dentielad. I have said many times that he shoots himself in the foot with his comments. It's like he cannot understand the fans views. Premier League rules state that he has to give pre and post match interviews as manager (I believe) . and he is terrible at them. but I think the football we played when he arrived (the real terrible stuff) was down to the players he had available. Since Coleman, Baines arrived and the signing of Tosun and Wallcott, we have been a different team. Still not brilliant, but certainly better than the drivel served up under Koeman and in Allardyce's first 5 games.

19 Mar 2018 09:03:41
I want him gone but will support him while at the Club.

19 Mar 2018 10:20:28
Fair enough GB.

19 Mar 2018 12:58:05
I think you are right Ed025.

I also think, more in Sams case than any other manager, That the more he proves the fans wrong the more they will dislike him. Nobody likes to be proved wrong and if done by someone you dislike it hurts a lot more. Just look at the thumbs down given when only facts are stated.

Now before the "Get rid of Grumpy" banners are out again, it is only my opinion and no amount of thumbs down will change that.

{Ed025's Note - he is marmite to be honest grumpy, the fact is that he was brought in to do a job and thats exactly what hes done, its not been pretty as we all know but the brief he was given will have said nothing about entertainment and will have put a premium on survival, i must admit that i would like someone else as im not a big fan of his football ethos but if he was to stay then i would certainly get behind him...well until i become as fickle as the rest and want CL attractive football as well as winning every game mate.. :)

19 Mar 2018 19:02:31
I will be delighted if he proves me wrong! I have been saying for 3 years . WE ARE CRAP! and becoming CRAPIER WITH EVERY SIGNING. when everyone else was talking about top 6 and Champions League and stuff. to be fair though. I think his reputation is a bit unfair. like I have said before. players like JayJay Ocotcha, Kevin Davies, Ivan Campo, Nikolas Anelka, Stuart Holden, Eidur Gudgohnson, Stellios and others were great players with bags of talent. He was restricted with finances at Bolton. He had a job to do there and did it well. Maybe with the right players and more money he will do ok? Anyone who signs Walcott is not a hoofer manager as some would say.

19 Mar 2018 20:13:27
How it should be Geoffjohno.

19 Mar 2018 20:18:32
Not so much proving the fans wrong but his comments always appear aimed at bigging himself up. As Ed25 said, Sam was brought in to do a job and I for one wanted him, I honestly thought he would adapt once we were safe and play a more attacking style. We did that at Stoke and as Cenk says more so in the second half. let's see how it goes the next 3 games - I would take 3 points now from all 9.

19 Mar 2018 21:18:49
Good reply Ed025, Thank you.

{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

19 Mar 2018 21:37:45
Good as always mate.

20 Mar 2018 11:46:40
We have the best group of players at the club for 20 years. However, we have the worst TEAM for 20 years.

Cenk though could be the catalyst of bringing these together. He praised his teammates and the backroom which then prompted Walcott to do the same thing. That is a huge difference.

We've had the selfish players of Lukaku and Kev moved on and these to replace them. They may start fighting for each other now instead of for themselves.

20 Mar 2018 12:48:27
OOOH BJU. I can't agree that this is the best bunch of players by any means. And certainly not for 20 years. Of the back 4, 3 were playing 10 years ago for us and are really on their last legs. or a freebee from Southampton, a pie eater from Swansea or a 20 year old kid who is not ready (his mistakes show that) . In midfield we have loads of potentialnumber 10's and holding midfielders, but none that are naturally for the left side. Not one! And yes Walcott gives us a right side and Tosun a forward. but I was posting pre their signings. I do agree that Tosun and Walcott have improved us no end. I also am sure that Jags, Baines and Coleman are still our best defenders by a mile. Yes Jags still is at 35! Add all that up and I know its all about personal views. but that is definitely not the best squad in 20 years for me. We should have 5 left footers in the team too. We only have one in the whole squad! But guess that's not about ability. more just the balance of the quad.

20 Mar 2018 22:46:56
The players we have now Degsy are the best in a single squad for a generation. However, they are not a team and yes it is unbalanced.

We have never seen so much talent at our club possibly ever. At most under Moyes we had 6 or 7 truly quality players towards the last 4 or so years with him.

However, more importantly, they played for each other and most had the right mentality and attitude.

There's nothing wrong with Jags, Baines and Coleman being our best defenders. They have played together for years and trust each other. They need replacing soon and should be priority areas but as it stands today they are doing a fine job.

From youth to the first team we have a huge amount of options. We just need someone to bring them all together. It may be Sam or someone else but whoever it is has a vast amount of talent to choose from.

We just need to look at the bigger picture.



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