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08 Jun 2018 18:05:43
The wave of optimism is encouraging. However, I still see some hurdles we need to overcome. Firstly our squad is way too big and way too old. However, whilst we can "get rid" of certain youngsters on relatively small minimal contracts, we have mature established players who will be happy to sit and take the money if we cannot find teams to take them on. I would put Martina, Williams, Bolasie, Jags and Baines in this category and I may have also missed a few. I know the likes of Joel has just completed his current deal so is likely off. That still leaves a few more to find new clubs for and get off the wage bill before we can consider new signings. The heirarchy have said as much as this. Then we have the World Cup coming up and past experience tells us that players tend to wait until after the world cup before seeing which Champions League clubs come in for them. Only then will they consider clubs like Everton. when they know they cannot establish themselves in European competition. All in all it looks like we will struggle with new signings. yet we all know we need some. Even if we don't get new players. the likes of Jags and Baines are too old for regular Premiership football now I feel. Little knocks are harder to shift at their ages. So this new management are going to have their mettle tested and we will see how the optomism continues. I see us struggling and I also see a load of abuse for saying so. I am happy we have the new manager but I hope the ones showing the optimism also show the support for the team if and when we do struggle.

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08 Jun 2018 19:19:19
To be fair degs you bring the cririsim onto yourself with your negative posts.
It's fans like you that are holding our club back as even when change is made and we can all Look forward to progressing fans like you want us to fail and it's getting boring mate.

08 Jun 2018 19:42:50
Man U will not let Radhford leave whether we ‘try’ or not. Let’s focus on realistic targets. Plenty of good players out there.

08 Jun 2018 19:54:45
There are some Bluey79 that take the opposite view and that view is that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Is there any wonder that many posters are deserting this HYS. Myself being the latest. Most certainly now, I have permanently had enough.

08 Jun 2018 21:30:09
So have we mate.

08 Jun 2018 21:58:04
By eck bring back Sam. At least everyone had a target to get at. Season over and it's a free for all. Let's think positive. New management team, new ideas, new style of playing. New horizons to be scaled.

08 Jun 2018 23:13:00
Degsy and DFS. Do you two not realise that you are the first to have a go at the new set up?

You can go on about hoping others give them time but you are being critical and negative already.

Of course it is going to be difficult in getting and moving players it is for every club. It's always been like that and always will. It's going to take time in seeing the team perform at their best and to get used to the new set up.

You can hang around getting ready to say I told you so but you've both already started.

Just let the rest of us dream a little and do what 99.9% of fans love to do and that's cheer, sing, piss and moan and jump around.

Still not seen one thing said in a positive light by either of you. Try it, you might like it. 😉.

08 Jun 2018 23:15:31
What's wrong with a little optimism yes Rome wasn't built in a day and there will be blips along the way, everyone is entitled to their opinion and it's nice we have this site to vent our frustrations or to show our optimism at how we think that MS and MB will be able to turn us around especially after last season. Yes we need to sell players what team doesn't (besides city though even they will upgrade for next season) we can't keep living in the past we need to embrace new faces and new ideas, yes as fans we pay our hard earned money and say what we want about the team but let's for once get behind everyone at the club now and show them that we support what they are trying to do. It's hard seeing fans already looking at the doom and gloom when MS and MB have only been here a week give them time, and let's wait till that first game on the opening day of the season to see what they have come up with if we lose you can say you told us so but give the guys a chance please.

09 Jun 2018 00:30:55
Fellow blues this is getting a little silly now! How about we give the new guys a chance to work to have some impact and then judge.

09 Jun 2018 01:17:33
Come on lads. I think you are being a bit unfair on degsyp's post.
I think he's right. It's going to be hard to get rid of some of the older higher paid players. The World Cup is going to get in the way of any signings and, yes, some players won't be interested in us because we don't have European football next year.
Please don't take this the wrong way degsyp but I think sometimes people see you posts and think Oh no, here we go again, aging defence and no left sided players but in this post I think you tried your best to bring something different to the table. Yes, aging players were mentioned but only in the context of the difficulty of removing them if they are on well paid contracts. No mention of left footed deficiencies in the squad. Hoorah - its a valid point but wasn't needed in this post.
I think degsyp was trying to be optimistic but cautious and there's nothing wrong with that Good post

To DFS. I see you are leaving the site once again. It's probably one of the longest farewell tours I have seen. I won't lie. I don't like most of your posts. I think they are disingenuous in so much that they talk of supporting Silva but then have snidey little pops at him and still disagree with his appointment. I do agree with you that everyone is entitled to their opinion though and whilst part of me wouldn't be sorry to see the back of you I would say 'stay on the site' but try and understand that we are all 'disappointed' with our showing the last season and probably earlier than that but we love our club and it is on all of us to get behind it once again and focus on the future not the past.

09 Jun 2018 04:34:38
Only just noticed this but the post is the first post from a degsyp3, not degsyp

Is this the same degsyp or someone trying to wind us all up?

09 Jun 2018 05:43:39
I don't mind Degsy posts tbh. Bit more pessimistic than most I agree but generally pretty well balanced point of view and backs up his thoughts. I try to enjoy the optimism of what might happen at the club so rarely a thumbs up but at least the posts aren't bitter attacks.

As for DFS, fingers crossed you mean it this time about leaving. Nothing depresses me more than the constant hatred for all things everton that you constantly spout. I'd never advocate anybody leaving such an excellent site but in your case I think we'd have much less doom, gloom and arguments if you weren't here to post.

09 Jun 2018 07:10:06
DFS I have no problem with people having a opposite view and on twitter I love having conversations with fans from all different clubs as I like listening to other fans views but you need to practice what you preach if Degs has his own view then I'm entitled to have a view of my own isn't that how it works.

09 Jun 2018 07:59:17
Degsy post is the same post he's put up 5 or 6 times just worded slightly differently. He does this time and again. There's elements in it from posts 5 years ago.

I don't have a problem with posting concerns but when there is nothing positive being said or when it's the same point being made over and over again then it becomes tiresome.

09 Jun 2018 09:28:02

09 Jun 2018 13:49:11
degs you make me laugh if everton were to have a really bad start to the season nothing would make you happier just so you could come on here and say i told you so reminding us all of your great knowledge of the game god its so boring and pretty sad bluejohn is right you constantly repeat yourself i have bin on this site for two years and you are still posting the same rubbish as back then.



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