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29 Jul 2018 10:11:29
Wise words from Seamus Coleman:

"I don't think we should get carried away too early with negativity or whatever, " Coleman said.

"It's pre-season, he's getting to know us and we're getting to know the manager and I have to say that training has been great, his ideas have been good but we haven't taken that onto the pitch.

"Sometimes we need to look at the players, it always seems to be managers nowadays, but we need to look at ourselves and that wasn't good enough but we can't get carried away with too much negativity, it's still early days.

"I'm sure the manager will be busy, possibly, in the next couple of weeks to get his own type of players in and we need to make sure us lads who are out there, and in training, do all we can to impress him.

"I thought we did create a couple of things [against Rennes] but I felt that when we gave it away, one or two passes and they were in on our goal. He wants us to win the ball back quicker and we didn't take that onto the pitch and it's something we need to look at.

"It's disappointing, we're not hiding away from it and nobody is making excuses because you don't want to be losing games in pre-season but we've got to be a little bit calm and take a step back and realise the Wolves game is all important. ".

{Ed025's Note - thanks for that jcl..

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29 Jul 2018 10:30:13
We've had quite a few games in a short period of time so not much time for Silva to iron out the issues in training. That's why we are seeing the same mistakes game after game.

29 Jul 2018 10:39:21
Agreed. all need to remain calm.

29 Jul 2018 10:57:59
I am very calm. But whilst I accept what Coleman is saying, the signs are as I expected. Our main problem has been age and lack of replacing key players in defence. Cuco Martina and Ashley Williams were brought in as cover for Jags/ Coleman/ Baines. Neither of which are good enough. Keane was bought for no mean fee as the future. and so far has dissappointed. This is the root of our problems and the 6 players I mention form the basis of our back line with Coleman. Coleman is our ONE positive and shines out like a star. We have known this point has been coming since the days of Moyes and none of our subsequent managers coaches have instigated suitable replacements. We are talking about a Barcelona substitute left back with about 10 days to go before the season starts. Even if we sign him this week, that gives precious little time to bed him in. As yet all rumours about center backs continue. I hope against hope that Mason Holgate is going to be our saviour and has matured sufficiently to partner whoever comes in. I have banged on about Jags being too old at 36 and similar with Baines and Williams and was shouted down for being "negative"! This Premier League has the best players of the world in it. To expect a player like Jags to be able to continue is beyond me. Yes he was playing against a French team that finished 5th last season. Imagine how he will be against Giroud, Lukaku or even Firminio. especially if he has a strain or pull which only players who have played to that age will understand what I mean. This should all have been sorted over the last 4 seasons. Not now with about 10 days to kick off with a new management team.

29 Jul 2018 11:07:23
Agree with ALL of that degsy BUT brands and and Silva been there at club assessing with their own eyes for 6 weeks. I'll be disappointed if at least 2 cbs come in. but am hoping that by end of transfer window will be much happier.

29 Jul 2018 11:14:52
smit666. 'Thats why we are seeing the same mistakes game after game'. My Grand Son makes the same mistake game after game he gets a rollicking but In actual fact the lad does not make the same mistake game after game though. 'Professional' footballers should not make the same mistake game after game, unless of course that 'mistake' is what their coach is teaching them.

29 Jul 2018 11:53:51
A couple more rollickings and your grand son will be perfect then and ready for the premiership. That is unrealistic.

Players however good they are can't just switch as a team from all out defensive play to high pressing, man marking to zonal marking.
That is just not how football and life works KTF.
They need to be trained to do it, and Marco needs time and personnel to do it with.

29 Jul 2018 12:10:05
The point I was trying to make Smit666 is that if you are making the same mistake game after game 'the same mistake' (your words mate) , then something is wrong. I was a rubbish footballer but never the less played combined services standard (I assume you know what that is) , never quite good enough for my beloved Everton but like us all I had the dream. So yeah my Grand Son listens to me and he may make the same mistake again but never 3 times.

29 Jul 2018 12:36:27
Some players work better under new managers, some just don't, some players have one season wonders, some just aren't good enough, what Silva needs to do, this won't be easy is let the players go, but every other club has seem them play, so it's not easy, so then it makes it harder for us to bring players in, or take a very big loss, which as a business isn't a good thing to do all the time, we seem to have good youngsters who are not quite there yet, couple of good players, under performing players, and players who ain't good enough, that's not a quick fix, no matter who you are, it could take a couple of seasons to straighten out the mess.

29 Jul 2018 14:43:32
KTF a whole team can't learn a completely different style of play in six weeks. That is part of why we are seeing so many mistakes.
It has nothing to do with your grand son making 3 mistakes. Every game has different scenarios, patterns of play, opposition.
If your grandson has his eye on the ball and loses his man, are you telling me after the 3rd time he will never do it again ever!, because he will have learnt?
If that was the case he will be better than every other footballer because he'll never make a mistake again.
I'm sorry KTF but that is complete an utter twoddle.







 

 

 
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