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11 Sep 2018 09:41:27
This is rather a delicate post that I have to be careful how I write this and how it might be percieved. I have always been one of those "bitter blues" as we are sometimes called by our friends across the park. However, I was pleased when as a club we offered our full support over the Hillsborough tragedy. Something that surpassed the importance of football. Yet I also struggle with "our" European ban in the mid 80's caused by the Heysel disaster and subsequent failure as a club to rebuild. Well, my Grandson recently went to a club visit and did the tour at Goodison. He was told that when we achieved our 100 years of top flight football, we wrote to all the clubs of the league asking for a momentum or something relevant for our history to display in our trophy room. Apparently every club in the league responded and sent us something to display except for one club! I don't think I need to name this club, but it left yet another bitter taste in my mouth. I wonder how some of our neighbours feel if this is true?

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11 Sep 2018 10:19:45
This is true I did the tour and was told the same by ex player Mark Higgins. This is why they will win more trophies than us but will never have our class!

11 Sep 2018 10:37:01
Very poor from Liverpool. Why has it got anything to do with Hillsborough or Heysal? The things aren’t related I have seen various things between clubs throughout the years such as ticket allocation being unfair.
We can not compare these things.
Hillsborough was a disaster for the city. We all supported each other throughout.
Heysal is in the past and UEFA banned all clubs. We have got to be bigger than that and live in the hope that we will have our day soon. We still have a great history and can still be proud of the team from the 80’s.
Can’t live life saying what may have been, let’s look to the future with promise.

11 Sep 2018 12:04:45
Hysel and Hillsborough are two different situations. One caused by hooligans on both sides and another caused by corrupt and inadequate police force.

All clubs around Europe in the 80s had a high level of persons associated with them including us. We blame Liverpool but really every club who allowed these people to attend matches contributed. I remember some games at Everton and it was almost a battlefield. A game against Middlesbrough saw one of their supporters coaches on fire on Stanley Road. Middlesborough!

As for not sending us anything, it's their choice but I'm just grateful they keep cementing our position as the people's club of the city. What we do and what they do don't compare when it comes to community service and remembering the people who pay into the club's coffers.

11 Sep 2018 12:07:07
Heysel affected our club more than anyone including them and for that reason I for one will never forgive them.

11 Sep 2018 16:14:43
Bluejohn, you may also remember a final just a short while before Heysel in Rotterdam, just a very short time before nothing but praise from the Dutch Police, welcoming Everton fans anytime.

As they say a week is a long time in politics.

11 Sep 2018 17:25:26
It is bignev and I'm not saying Liverpool are innocent I'm just pointing out neither were we and we've had our moments.

I'm old enough to remember the persons we've had at our club as well. Gladly these days all of our clubs are much better behaved and have outstanding members of public like all of us on here. 😁😇 although, there is still minorities no matter what club it is.

11 Sep 2018 18:11:58
Not wrong there Bluejohn, some horrible scenes in the seventies and eighties, thankfully cctv and seater stadiums make it harder for someone to hide in a crowd.

Whilst on the subject I had a good think about the lack of item our neighbours did not send.

So let suppose they sent a memento of the first all Merseyside cup final-the milk cup, or the first all Merseyside fa cup final, any item they sent could be looked at as rubbing our noses in the item they sent.

I agree it was poor not sending a momentum but in the same breath it could have been received as having a pop at us, so I am sitting on the fence with this one.

11 Sep 2018 20:14:46
We lived in Liege at the time and I went to the game. My perspective is somewhat different to the bias reporting of the European Press at the time. Yes of course Liverpool (as most of our Clubs do) had their hooligans and yes there were some that instigated but there were far more either trying to stay out of it or trying to defend others. What I saw in an awful lot of black and white stripes hands were iron bars, knives and being used.

11 Sep 2018 20:31:55
ok that post started a discussion pretty well. I will only add that they were the ONLY club not to send anything out of the whole Football League and they were the only team who we supported after going through the most traumatic of events ever in football. So I can see why we should rise above it. but feel myself that sometimes there is one club with class on Merseyside and if the roles were reversed I would be terribly embarassed to be an Evertonian!

11 Sep 2018 20:55:56
Totally Agree Degsy. 👍.

12 Sep 2018 10:21:47
I did wonder if any of our neighbours would comment on this one as they sometimes do. I think if I was a red, I would be feeling quite uneasy about it and maybe even suggesting that LFC look at this "omission" and rectify it if it is not too late?



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