Everton Rumours Archive November 15 2017

 

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15 Nov 2017 20:18:58
Hi eds what can you actually see happenings us over the manager situation it’s taken 3 weeks to decide on who they want “Silva” reports of a second bid turned down for him do they go back again will the next choice of
Manager want to come knowing he his second / third choice. I know taking your time on decisions is a good thing but this process doesn’t look like taking your time it looks like different views and it
Knowing what they really want which really does scare me.

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{Ed002's Note - The reality Eddy is that Everton need to make he best decision and that involves stepping back. I really don't know of a magica fix. For the decent supporters I want a calculated decision.}

16 Nov 2017 10:26:21
Evryone keeps saying Everton must take their time not make a knee jerk reaction, important to get the decision correct .
I agree with this 💯 %
What frustrates me is fans saying “ I am glad we are being careful and NOT making hasty decisions BUT if we take it there is no smoke without fire WE HAVE ALREADY ASKED SEVERAL MANAGERS to join us and for one reason or another have been turned down .
When Koeman was sacked any business worth their salt would have had a strategy in place like West Ham obviously did .
All I read when I turn on tv or Internet is press maki g a laughing stock of us over managers turning us down .
I remember when Harry Catrick would do business on the motorway and sign a player before it was even being talked about!
I FEEL DREADFULY SORRY FOR David Unsworth he must feel undervalued, not knowing how long he is going to be in charge and it cannot be good for team morale .
It’s not that we are taking our time to get the decision correct, our problem is we THOUGHT we knew who we wanted but whoever was responsible for assessing the risk of them turning us down got it terribly wrong!
It isn’t going to happen sadly but a big clearout is needed at board level as they cannot even agree amongst themselves.
Finally what I do not understand is all businesses have a “ boss” were the buck stops and we are no different
But it seems whoever our boss is does not have the ability to make the overall decision and this does concern me .

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18 Nov 2017 09:50:03
Or just maybe things were so bad under Koeman, and declining rapidly, that the board didn't think they had time to plan ahead.
Mid season is an awful time to try to find a new manager unless it is someone who is already out of work - and they don't tend to be the ones you would want.

They clearly thought Unsy could do a job, short term and potentially longer, but I think his selections and results in first few games will have spoilt that plan.

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15 Nov 2017 15:55:00
There has been a lot of comments on this forum about EFC dithering with their decision. Well today that dithering has paid dividends as Big Sam has come out and said that is why he has dropped out of the running. Well do EFC, dither away.

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15 Nov 2017 17:03:38
If he never spoke to us [his words] how was he ever in the running?

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15 Nov 2017 18:19:33
Very good point Bullens.

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15 Nov 2017 19:31:47
Good post Smit mate so glad we didn't get him.

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15 Nov 2017 20:26:53
The same joker that did a great job with palace then jacked at the end of th season because he didn't want to manage a club side day to day for the long term? He'd do a job for us but we're not desperate enough yet and even if we did I wouldn't want him given a contract beyond May 2018.

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15 Nov 2017 10:08:17
fed up with all this manager talk, silva double his wages, allerdyce wants long term, simeone untouchable, dyche don't want to leave burnley. unsworth definitely wants it, ancellotti wants premiership football. what is going on, my head is spinning. what about ancelotti manager and unsworth reserve manager, experience for unsworth too learn a manger that can quality players.

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{Ed002's Note - Ancelotti has other far better options right now and his interest in in another job. I think a move to Everton is very, very unlikely.}

15 Nov 2017 10:56:04
The one that really got away was Irvine going to west ham, I would have liked him back at Everton in some capacity. Maybe not as manager but would be an experienced assistant to a young coach. Or maybe as director of football.

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15 Nov 2017 10:59:19
Who do consider to be the front runners at the moment ed? . If there are any? . You mentioned Fonseca (al be it a long shot! ) the other day but nothing in the papers, are the wrags way off with our targets? .

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{Ed002's Note - I did not say Fonesca was going to be joining. Right now we know that Moshiri has switched his attention to Silva and Everton has used a third party to approach Watford. So clearly he is possible. We also know that Kenwright would like Unsworth to be given a chance - quite how Unsworth feels about the club looking to others I don't know. But Kenright could win out. Dyche would be a very good option because he is a strong character and could deal well with the Director of Football. Allardyce would be a good option to sort out the defence and get the team safe and settled - a strong character again but don't expect the football to be too attractive, and that is the likely reason that Walsh is being ignored. One wonders if Moshiri is talking to someone else regarding these choices he has, but I don't think any decent advisor would suggest a side looking for stability should be looking to a coach who has had three jobs in 18 months. Right now these are the more likely options. Of couse there is every chance Tony Pulis will become available very soon.}

15 Nov 2017 11:13:28
Oh god don’t say that ed!

Ed002 do you have any info on Emery, Simeone or Tuschal in regards to their availability now or at the end of the season and if Everton have shown interest in any?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Mancini has financial demands that Everton would likely not meet and he would almost certainly want a Champions League team or a National side - a chance that might come along in the near future. Tuchel has a proposal in front of him from another side (which is likely not to be acceptable) but he almost certainly won't be looking towards a club such as Everton - but he is available. Why would Simeone leave a club where he has had enormous success, is playing a beautiful new stadium (which he showed me around whilst it was being built) for a side who is not in the Champions League and a side that has prospects of getting there blocked by at least half a dozen other sides? Whilst he may well be available in the coming summer or the next, he knows he will have other offers. Maybe he will join Griezmann at Barcelona? Perhaps the Chelsea job beckons? Or maybe he will join the Spanish revolution that is coming at Arsenal?}

15 Nov 2017 11:41:41
Have to agree with you Ed Everton is not a super attractable proposition at the moment which will limit the candidates wishing to take the job.

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15 Nov 2017 12:46:58
I didn't say you said fonseca was joining ed, I was referring to your post last week when you said he was Moshiri's choice. Thanks for the info.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

15 Nov 2017 19:29:55
Hi Ed002. Ancelotti is favourite for the newly vacant Italy job. Can you see him getting that?

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{Ed002's Note - Well, I am not so sure that Everton is top of the list.}

15 Nov 2017 23:35:51
Is that a cryptic maybe?

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{Ed002's Note - Should have read Ancelotti.}

15 Nov 2017 01:14:07
The line comeing from the press, is that the delay in an appointment, is due to a split in the boardroom.
I find these reports as very odd, there may be some differances of opinion, but surly, at the end of the day, he who pays the piper, calls the tune. The owner of the largest block of shares is the new owner, plus the fact the he is putting up the cash for paying off Koeman, and putting up the money for any compensation we may have to pay to bring someone in, so bill can stamp his feet all he likes, there is only one person who is going to decide, and it's not bill.

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15 Nov 2017 11:07:41
And so it shouldn’t be Bill, I have no doubt Bill would’ve loved a fairytale reunion with Moyes or to give Unsworth more time, Moshiri is the main man and should make the decisions, no more small club mentality, no more losers at the club.

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{Ed002's Note - So you want a businessman making footballing decisions? Recipe for success.}

15 Nov 2017 12:58:10
No, I want ambitious people making footballing decisions seeing as how the footballing man wants Unsworth given more time.

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{Ed002's Note - I think you have missed the point here.}

 
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