Everton Rumours Archive August 19 2013

 

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19 Aug 2013 22:46:37
come the end of the transfer window when baines is still here I will be the first to tremble over to the united page and laugh at them because even though some of them think he isn't good enough (ferguson did so yeah is he stupid too?) there is some who say they have already gone and saying they want to go well take your arrogance and shove it up your arse

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Ferguson signed Bebe for £8m lad stop chatting wham.

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20 Aug 2013 13:25:26
so that makes him a stupid and bad manager?.

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19 Aug 2013 22:23:02
its not moyes fault are you having a laugh that man cost us 5m-10m in compo by not signing a contract he new he was going to utd a year ago most everton fans new 5 years ago he would end there so when the man offers pennies for our star men I only think its right we show our anger to the man we used to love for over 10years I bet he comes back and offers 5m for barkley by the end of the week am just waiting for wenger to offer 28m and a penny for the 3 of them.gibbo

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Agreed mate. Moyes turned out to be a bit of a shark when he was denying all knowledge of a move to man u. I didn't begrudge him his chance and wished him all the best. I don't now, he has showed his true colours and I hope he falls flat on his gollum face!

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In what way has he "showed his true colours"? By bidding, as Manchester United manager, for two players from an opposing team?

Hate the toddler style attempts at vilifying Moyes. Needless try-hard behaviour.

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Yeah thanks for nothing moysey really Nothing! Nearly 11 years and never won a carrot . so let's get behind Roberto . at least he believes in the football style us older fans were brought up on . might be a bit awkwark at first but he will get there . good appoint ment Bill. the doubters will thank you . I truelly believe it

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Moyes is gone. End of. There is no respect or honour in football any more. The boos at Goodison will show him that his 11 years of service has been undone in one act of insult.

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So Moyes should have signed a new contract when he knew he was off to United and ruin his chance at that move. or perhaps you would have rather he come out in January and say he was going there and have people like you say he ruined our season?
Maybe think before you write, get over Moyes and stop giving us the bitter name.

However I agree he has lost a lot of respect from me and most fans after that insulting bid, he was here long enough to know that we can take clubs to the cleaners when we sell.

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But HE never put the bid in. Why can people not grasp this? {Ed025's Note - i have given up paddo..

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19 Aug 2013 22:07:13
I heard the two players mentioned in the club statement were tony hibbert and Leon Osman . Moyes two favourite players! On a more serious note, in the USA media they are reporting Manchester United are about to clinch the signing of Landon Donovan from under everton noses

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He would never play. Nani, Young, Valencia, he'd be 4th choice

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19 Aug 2013 22:05:07
Just seen on the newsnow Everton rumours page a link to the Busby Way, a Manc blog, which claims to have a picture of the letter actually sent By Deputy Chairman Jon Woods in response to Utd's crappy bid. It looks legit and has some lines in about 'Not wanting to enter any more transfer discussions about the players.'.
Looks legit and is a very firm response that states that 'these are final instructions in this matter'. Have a look blues. Think it's real?

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The first sentence in the letter is grammatically incorrect, which I'm convinced wouldn't be the case with official correspondence. If the creator's literacy had matched his ingenuity, then I might have believed the letter to be genuine.
Unhappy-Camper

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I would like to think the club would have spelt letter correct! It said 'leter'!!

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Its blag mate, good effort though!
Mr Blue Sky

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If you think Everton would spell letter as "leter" then its genuine.

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19 Aug 2013 22:00:02
I'm sorry but if we sign McCarthy if felli does go it will be a mistake. If he was so good why isn't he lighting the championship up? No one has tries to sign him because they now it would be 15mill thrown away

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Moyes wrote that contrat with the by out in then let it run out we should knot sell to them for all the money in the world let stop being Man U best mate

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Let them both go. £30m + Anderson and Buttner coming to us. Then buy Rodwell back for £8m Alderweireld for a net £3m with Heitinga going the other way. Moses for £7m and Barry or Flaminni on a free as back up, with £12m left in he bank for January if we need it

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19 Aug 2013 21:58:03
United fan in peace.

A friend of mine bumped into Barry Bannan this weekend while out in Birmingham. They got talking and Bannan told him that he was moving your way and that Gareth Barry will also be making the move to Goodison. My friend said that he seemed pretty certain if perhaps a little drunk.

redseven

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Seems unlikely, but he is, in my opinion - and for the right price - a pretty good player. Small, scrappy, technically very able and a superb passer. Always been impressed with what I've seen, but he's never been able to establish himself in the Villa team. What I've seen may not of been a true reflection of his ability, but I've been impressed nonetheless. Barry would do as cover for Gibbo provided its a loan of free.

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Who is barry bannan? {Ed025's Note - villa midfielder..

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19 Aug 2013 21:47:38
On about barkley, new contract, mega buyout, etc.Does anyone know who his agent is? It ain't that stratford, stretford or watever the fook he`s called. is it?

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Do u mean paul stretford?

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Let's hope stretford or someone of his ilk is not representing Ross, money is the only thing these people believe in, words like loyalty, pride, history are not in his(their)vocabulary, they(he)has the ability to make the grass always greener on the other side once it's profitable for him(them).Wayne is still controlled by the like of these, let's pray that Ross isn't.

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Yes Paul Stretford, if it is him, he will be discussing a transfer on the golf course with Moyesey tomorrow.
Bluenose.

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There is NO buy out clause or any other clause in his contract.
Mr Blue Sky

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19 Aug 2013 21:43:21
Stop moanin about moyes everyone,, the first thing martinez done was to raid his old club. if they go so what,, we get behind who ever replaces them, like we've always done. let the good times roll. coyb

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We didn't raid Wigan, we met Kones clause, Alcaraz was out of contract and Robles was not a Wigan player. The backroom staff nearly always follow a manager . Moyes is a hypocrite in this insulting bid and should be told in no uncertain terms where to go

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We didn't raid Wigan we paid kone's buy out clause we got Alcaraz on a free and Robles was from athletico Madrid

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The difference is we didn't make derisory bids for the Wigan players we've brought in and/or attempt to blatantly and publicly unsettle them.
In the past - as with Lescott, Arteta, and Rodwell - as long as we eventually get a decent offer, then we'll sell, but we won't - and shouldn't - be bullied by clubs with big spending power (that's almost always based on massive debts and/or sugar daddies).
We're a proper football club - no longer the Mersey Millionaires, but still a club with a proud history and the determination to conduct itself with decency and honesty. That's why I'm proud to have been an Evertonian for fifty years.

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Did we deliberately try to unsettle their players with insulting, disgraceful bids?
Did Dave Whelan say he would sell to Everton if the price is right?
If your answer to these are yes and no, respectively then you need assistance from a medical professional.

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We didn't tap up their manager and tell him to sit tight until the end of his contract either.

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Well said Sid.

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Martinez went back and took two players on a free and gave wigan what they wanted for Kone. He didn't go and bid 2 Mil for Kone, he showed some respect.

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20 Aug 2013 06:35:56
yeah for one player and we met dave whelans buy out clause alacaraz was on a free and robles was bought from a spanish side

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I was wondering if RM has come to Everton knowing there is no money for players unless we sell.?

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Yeah your right he did but he also paid their true value and didn't try and get em on the cheap so your argument is rubbish pal sorry if he came in and offered what he really think their worth is I for 1 wouldn't be up in arms over it.

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Err the difference is, Wigan were relegated. Dave Whelan invited bids for his players, and was paid the full asking price. A difference of respect, of both Mr Whelan and the Wigan fans. Certainly not how we have been treated by Moyes.

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This post is the most ridiculous ever, martinez paid the release fee for kone

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19 Aug 2013 21:06:31
What's happend to sky money if we only buyin Kone where's the rest going can't see us spending all are money on him ste46

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I asked this question on this site last month. I was told it gets spent on wages and agents' fees. {Ed025's Note - we still have a transfer kitty..

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How much Ed? {Ed025's Note - im not privvy to that information mate..

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If we still have a transfer kitty - why have we failed to buy anyone else yet! It's obvious we need midfield cover why wait - strikes me its sell before buying - and then if we're lucky - something's never change at Goodison

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19 Aug 2013 20:52:50
Excuse me Ed, am I on the right page here? it seems to be full of Mancs.
Ste 1878 {Ed025's Note - you are ste, its a debate mate, if it was one sided it would just be bitching!..

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15 Aug 2013 23:42:37
Genuine rumour - Peter Reid reckons a deal for Fellaini & Baines has been agreed. Bill Kenwright has insisted that the deal is done on deadline day, as he doesn't want to re-invest the money back in to Evertons squad & this would give him the ideal excuse without the risk of a backlash from fans.

Well I see this actually being agreed as we know how tight Everton are! {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

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19 Aug 2013 22:41:52
Read this on the mancs page earlier and even their fans don't believe it.sell both players on the last day so he could say he didn't have time to.replace them. and expect no backlash.are you having a laugh.there won't be a backlash, there will be war

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19 Aug 2013 20:44:45
Keeping baines is a must for the way we play, wouldn't be the end of the world to lose felli but I would hold out for 25 mil not a penny less. Buy james mccarthy and luca marrone both 22 years old and probably fellis wages would well cover both. Both players wouldn't have fellis physical edge but techically both are better footballers.

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Both better technically. have you seen Felli?

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Totally agree! And that is the upbeat that I wanna be reading

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19 Aug 2013 20:44:43
Should of signed Capoue when we had the chance in my opinion. James McCarthy is a good player but 15m is a ridiculous asking price. I really don't want us to sign another Wigan player! I would love us to go for Sigurdson, brings goals and class!

EFCMike

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19 Aug 2013 20:36:06
I don't really blame moyse in this saga, he doesn't deal with money and to be fair he will have very little input in targets. he will be told who they are trying to sign. I imagine giggs has more say in transfer targets than moyse!

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That's a ridiculous statement, how can you say Moyes has no input in targets.Baines and Fellaini are obviously Moyes targets.He would of had an input on the fees too.It's a shame that he was our manager for eleven years and has now lost all respect from our fans.

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He's the manager but wouldn't have much input in what players he signs? Have a word with yourself and your psychiatrist next time you see him/ her. {Ed025's Note - which players...yes..negotiations...no..

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19 Aug 2013 21:07:29
Hasn't got any or much input. yer avin a laff lad!

He is a control head, wonder why Wayne Rooney was made to go soon and quick as he did?

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Of course he has a say ed. Edward Woodward doesn't just wake up and decide he'll bid for x and why? He consults the manager and will ask his opinion of what he thinks he can get them for. He has intimate knowledge of our financial situation and will advise accordingly. {Ed025's Note - i give in!.. ok he does..

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19 Aug 2013 20:34:25
Barry not in the city squad do we have an interest in him ed {Ed025's Note - there are rumours mate, how true they are i dont know mate..

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I rate barry would be good cover for cm

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Not in the squad because he's not bloody good enough!

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19 Aug 2013 19:47:03
why is everyone getting there knickers in a twist, the club statement didn't say which two players it was. I heard it was big vic and johnny h :)

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19 Aug 2013 19:46:55
Why does everyone hate man u? because Judas in a Ginger wig is their manager

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19 Aug 2013 19:37:20
Let them go for the right price, check our pass completion rate for Saturday.In Martinez we now trust .He will spend the money wisely .Welcome back to the school of science!

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19 Aug 2013 19:32:08
Good evening . I am man united through and through. A genuine season ticket holder from manchester. I can't believe we have only bid 28 million for your best two players. I firmly believe we will sign both of them, but to be honest it will be closer to 40 million than 30 million. Everybody seems to be blaming this on dm, but your beloved chairman has not stated they will not be sold, just won't be sold at 28 million. Let me ask you a question, if you went to buy a car tomorrow, how many of us would offer the asking price 1st time around?

This will happen guys, but unfortunately I think it will happen at about 4 pm on sept 2nd, giving you no time to replace either of them

Mufc parkie {Ed025's Note - lets hope not parkie..

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That's not the point. If you had a £20,000 car and I offered you £2.50 you would surely laugh and rightly tell me where to go and not want to deal with me again, presumably, if you had any sense.
And at the time your car's not for sale and you (presumably) don't need the money.
Would you encourage me to bid for your car again knowing I was rich but took the piss with a low offer. Imagine how your car would feel emotionally.

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UTD need to improve to win the league, city and Chelsea are both much better. They are under pressure to buy players so take them to the cleaners or tell them to stop bidding. The Manc fan who commented is correct though, Blue Bill needs to come out and say bid $45 mil or don't bid. That puts the issue to bed.

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I think the op is an honest opinion. But I think Utd are used to getting thinks there own way. This is only weeks after they had written a formal apology to Everton for their conduct over the Moyes deal and then this after a week of news paper stories stating Baines should hand in a transfer request probably prompted by Utd just before their bid.

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Fellaini and baines didn't like moyes, respected him, but didn't like him, both were asked along with jags if they fancied it and all 3 said no. Felli may move but it won't be to united.

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I wouldn't be so sure mate, you seem to think these players are nailed on but don't catch your chickens, I suspect a few more rejections first

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19 Aug 2013 19:28:32
This time last year, Gary Neville said fellaini was unplayable. Now he seems to think that he's only worth a bit more than what's been offered .

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Gn just been on sky saying the mancs will get them both. Its just a matter of time. Bk needs to be careful with this one or we won't just riot when hibbo scores!

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19 Aug 2013 19:27:32
Don't like this 'Club Statement' one little bit. when was the last time they did anything like this? If it was the 'norm' for EFC to make a statement about transfer dealings then ok. I smell a rather large rat just about to stick his nose right out of the drain and not talking about DM!
I really hope I'm wrong but I just got a sinking feeling.
Used to be named Mushroom Man because we are always kept in the dark. now the powers that be become transparent?

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Hey

Cant win, people moan about the lack of communication over the years and then are not happy when the club, rightly, comes out with a statement of intent in terms of a derisory and insulting offer.

Get a grip.

Mart

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19 Aug 2013 19:14:19
Fellow blues. The news of bids for baines and fellaini is hard to take because of moyes long affiliation with our club. Personally, bill kenwright had better not dare contemplate selling baines and barkley. The man u fans are urging moyes to go for him. I will lose the plot if we lost all three, felli I can just about handle if a player has to be sold.

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19 Aug 2013 19:03:31
how about we take advantage of this situation by offering felli and bainsey an 7 mil for rooney snap that up! all the best hibbo2589

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Are you serious? they get our two best players and seven mil! for a player they don't even want, get real

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19 Aug 2013 17:27:26
moyes is not welcome back at this club now what a dirty rat I expect this sort of crap from the rubbish next door so please bill tell this ginger rat to get back in his cage.gibbo

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Please Mr Kenwright do not bow down to Man Utd, don't you think they have humiliated us enough. How would they like it if we offered 10ml for Rooney. For god's sake grow a backbone and think of the fans for once.
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Moyes identifies players he wants and tells his exec officer, after that he will take no part in negotiations.
Don't for one second believe that Moyes made the offer.

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Will everyone stop with the moyes slagging am I not right in saying that the offers come from the board of Manchester united not moyes himself all he has done is suggest to the Manchester united board that he wants these players and they then put an offer in for them and if the shoe was on the other foot would you not put in a low offer for a player and try your luck okay you may get knocked back but at least you tried. so once again it is not moyes who is to blame.

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They'd run the offer by moyes to see if he was happy with what was offered, what he valued them at, if it was too much or too little so moyes has a massive say in what's offered. {Ed025's Note - thats just another guess mate..

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No we won't stop slaggin Moyes off, he knew he was going months before and now he's trying to buy our best players for peanuts.He's lost my respect and I will let him know how I feel when he turns up at Goodison and i'm pretty sure I won't be the only one.

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19 Aug 2013 17:18:45
Baines to utd for 15 million rising to 18 with add ons and 23 million for fellaini rising to 25 million with add ons looks likely as I said couple of weeks ago baines to united for 15 rising to 18 will happen regardless of what happens to felli hope am wrong but what I have been told

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That's 38m. A little more than what's been offered?

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19 Aug 2013 17:58:51
Cole went from Arsenal to Chelsea for £25M. Had abot 2 yrs left on his deal. That's the base for Baines. He offers more than Cole in terms of assists and goals so whatever he cost its at least the same or slightly more.

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Does moyes know something we don't, like we are completely skint. why can't blue bill find the dosh so we can say to united, our best players are NOT for sale. to stress this fact blue bill could go out and buy the guy at wigan and the italian kid we have looked at, just to build up our squad

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United will not play 15mil reaching to 18 mil for Baines. They will not pay 25 for felli. They will come in with a final offer of about 32 for both. Everton will gave to make a decision from there. (I think we will sell)

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Why would they offer 23 million + when they didn't just pay the 23 million buy out before it expired?

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I seem to remember them getting Cole for £5m plus Gallas

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"Why can't Blue Bill find the dosh. "

Why can't you find the dosh? Where the hell is he meant to pluck millions from?

Any excuse to give Kenwright a hard time. Let's get Peter Johnson back in - things were great back then.

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19 Aug 2013 17:13:57
Us United fans are in the same position as you's here. We don't want them either! Baines will cost too much for his age, and Fil isn't good enough. Please keep them! Worth 35Mil tops for both in my opinion. Hope we have other options {Ed025's Note - then why bid for them?

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Because the fans don't make the choices. Strange response Ed. {Ed025's Note - it was a question..

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Baines too much for his age! - well how much is Rooney worth given his age? 10 mill?

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Because we've run out of other options, is the only possible answer I can think of. Fergie was a fan of Baines and with him being one of the best in the league it's no surprise. It's his age that's the issue for me. Fil, in his own right, is a quality player, but I don't think he would fit in with our current style of play, and while I don't think Everton are just a long ball team, I do think he would affect our style of play negatively. The issue at the moment, for us and Arsenal, is that there's not much about without paying silly money.

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That makes no sense. Rooney is younger and more important than Baines in term of world football. He's the face of almost everything Manchester United.

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Your absolutely right everyone knows that united have world class central midfielders already. oh wait they are all rubbish which is why you are desperately searching the market looking for one

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Too much for his age . beginning of last season, a certain rvp for 30 million

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Felli better than all your centre mid fielders lol

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Baines is older than rooney

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My point is that we don't, but Fil isn't going to fix this, because he isn't world class.

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No he's not both 28

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Massive difference between RVP and Baines mate. No point in carrying on if your going to make silly comments like that. Fil in on par with our midfield, he's hardly going to solve all our problems is he?!

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Not by much I think was the point he was making

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Both 28? Rooneys 27.

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Why all the manc's, do one comin on here tellin us Baines and Fellaini aren't good enough.They would both walk into your team.Who is better Carrick and Evra?.You need to put up or shut up and as for Barkley we will never sell him to you!.

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If u can't see or understand how good baines is then u really don't deserve him for any price. The man who created more chances than anyone else in a major European league, from left back! The blokes a class act so doesn't fit with the mancs whinging eleven.

Young rocky

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19 Aug 2013 17:02:55
given how late this bid was launched in the window, we should tell utd its 60mil or gtfo . we aren't going to be able to replace players of baines and felli's calibre, so we should be compensated for it .

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19 Aug 2013 16:50:04
Bill should put a 12 million pound offer in for van persie. let's see how they like it.
Tell them to back off or we will report them to the FA for tapping up DM.

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You don't understand what tapping up is. United have done nothing wrong, the bid IS low, but why would you go to a negotiation table and jump straight in with the maximum amount you want to pay?

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Official offers aren't "tapping up"

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The "tapping up " refers to how Utd approached Moyes before offering him the position as Manager, which everton have received an official apology?

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Would have been an idea to mention that.

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19 Aug 2013 16:29:24
I am absolutely gobsmacked at the bid made by Manchester United lost all respect for moyes now, and to think he was trying to get fabregas for £35 million makes me sick

Personally it would take £40 million before I even would consider accepting the offer

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Do you honestly think Moyes decides how much is offered?! Wake up

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Regardless off what the offer is he still is trying to take our best players, players that he bought for our squad that is why it makes me sick

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Of course moyes has an input in to what is offered. You need to wake up and smell the humus

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United usually pay what it takes to get a player, this is why I feel moyes must have had something to do with such a low offer

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So you would take 40 m before accepting the offer?

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MUFC is a huge company.Do you honestly believe they would let a football coach conduct business on their behalf?

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19 Aug 2013 16:22:57
If we do sell Fellaini and Baines I hope to god that all the money is reinvested in the squad. Not too fussed about Fellaini going but Baines is vital.

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I remember kenright said just after Martinez signed that 100% of the money from sales will be available for Martinez. So personnally I just hope we'll have the time to buy new players.

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19 Aug 2013 16:22:12
You do realise that Moyes isn't the one that decides how much to offer. he just says who e wants and then it's up to ewar woowar.

Plus the first offer is always going to be low, they're testing the water.

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19 Aug 2013 16:37:27
No but as he is the manager he would be deemed an officer of the company with sufficient powers to influence things.
For example if he asked either player to put in a transfer request, that could be seen as unlawful interference. {Ed025's Note - but its guessing mate..

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If they come in with another derisory bid, I would have the club's lawyers issue a rejection statement rather than Alan Myers.

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Why the club's lawyers? Have they dine anything illegal? No! let's hope we're represented by Saul Goodman, eh? Or maybe not

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19 Aug 2013 19:17:20
Interference in a contract is unlawful, that is why we have transfer fees as compensation.
Using the club's lawyers would be a statement that we are prepared to defend what is our's. BK likes a bit of theatre that would be some.

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Your naïve to believe Moyes has no input. He's the general manager of the football club, who do honestly think puts a valuation on these players. A pen pushing chief exec?

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19 Aug 2013 16:06:06
David moves is a cheeky ginger little rat who I hope fails at Manchester United 28m for our 2 bet players thrownrooney, rvp, carrick, Hernandez and Ferdinand then person need to stop being a rat

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19 Aug 2013 16:04:19
Just went on the United page and the lot of them think both of them are only worth £35m max! Fellaini and Baines should be valued at £50m if they want both of them. £30m for Felli and £20m for Baines is fair tbh.

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Ask them to buy Thiago and Cesc mate.

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19 Aug 2013 16:00:07
Malevolent
Arrogant
Noxious

Underhanded
T*ts
Delusional

Blue22

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19 Aug 2013 15:51:25
Who the hell do the top clubs in the premier think they are . Arsenal now offer Newcastle £10million for Cabaye after a derisory bid for Baines & Fellani .

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I didn't realise arsenal had bid for baines and fellaini as well. :)

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19 Aug 2013 15:38:59
I would take 30 mill and Hernandez and nani quality players who would be world class at everton then buy McCarthy and add maybe contrao from Madrid with the money left over? He's available for 12 mill?

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Controao is rubbish, was once a good player, went to madrid and became average, marcelo will keep him out of that squad now for a long time to come. loanable if baines goes.

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Man U are skint! Even if moyes told them everton need to sell Man U should act in a good and proper way and show us respect

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19 Aug 2013 15:31:46
Paolo di canio is reported to have said in the sunderland echo that he may sell Stephane Sessengon. Not sure how much he would be but i'd take him all day long {Ed025's Note - me too jamie..

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19 Aug 2013 15:12:48
maybe the UTD owners are selling up and have brought dithering Dave in to work on a budget!.
Why would they make such a stupid bid like that?.
it makes you think.
someone told me recently they think UTD will be sold
within the next year or 2.
will be an interesting couple of weeks now though.


COYB

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Well if there selling up am sure it would need to b some 1 with loads of money as the club is valued at 1.2 billion

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19 Aug 2013 15:08:58
maybe the owners of UTD are selling up and have got dithering D

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19 Aug 2013 15:07:18
what's all the fuss about Davey he has every right to raid his former club we have seen many managers do it. why didn't anyone say that about martinez raiding Wigan. PKBLUE {Ed025's Note - its called doing things properly PK..

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That is true PK but we went to Wigan and did things the right way, exactly what we expect our club to do, not put in an insulting offer.

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Wake up and stop wasting people's time with pointless posts like this! Like explained above there's a way to do business in football and Man U quite clearly haven't got a clue!

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How is taking one player from wigan raiding them?

kone was bought the correct way and with a decent offer, alcaraz didn't have a club and joel was from athletico madrid

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19 Aug 2013 15:07:05
Ed, does Felli's buy out clause kick back in at the end of the season? or was it just for the transfer window just gone? (assuming he is still with us of course) {Ed025's Note - its finished mate..

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19 Aug 2013 15:05:04
I say £45mill-£50mill or they can do one.

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19 Aug 2013 15:03:50
Baines 20 million minimum
Felli not for sale

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Other way round, I'd say. Not too sure how Fellaini fits into the new style of play.

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Sorry, 30 mill for fella, baines to stay, are u real

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19 Aug 2013 15:02:48
Everton to offer 2 ollies and a frog for Cleverley plus a Jam Jar and some pickles for Nani. Not sure on the amount of pickles so it could be knocked back!

N33D {Ed025's Note - have you factored in agents fees?..

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Jam jar and pickles for Nani? Bit much that mate, I think either or but not both. And if it is pickles I think we should offer instalments not a one off payment.

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I'll take that.

united fan

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Hi Ed,

No I had just netted the figures down for now! could be offset against some apples and a bag of grapes. we will see!

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Have you seen the price of pickles lately

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I have, and I dread the thought of Moyes seeing them, he might drop dead from the shock!

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19 Aug 2013 14:27:07
I've been venturing onto other clubs sites today( don't normally bother) and this 28 million bid has created so much debate and argument, and not just from our beloved club.

We all now that its generally the 3rd bid that gets accepted, however 28 mil is quite rightly as the club described "insulting and derisory", now those of you saying moyes had no input with the bid well you need to cop yourself on. Moyes was at our club for 11 years, he knows us inside and out financially including how he thinks the 'The Fro' will react, you would be crazy for thinking if he hasn't passed on this info to his new employers, and it is this info that has guided this embarrassing bid.

The timing of the bid has to be looked at too, it was made last week while our players were on international duty, and was a sure fire effort to unsettle the players and club, this has been re-enforced by the fact that our club has NOT made this bid public.

I think it is embarrassing for such a powerful club like United to act in this manner, to under bid so badly and then make this public in an effort to undermine another club, I think it smacks of desperation from Moyes, he has tried to sign player after player and they have all turned him down and now he is desperate!

I personally value the players at 45mil for both! or 32 mil with Butner and Anderson thrown in.

Kurajan

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I rate Butner 2 and Anderson 3 reason is they don't suit to our football.

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Interesting post Kurajan, you make valid points.

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Nail. On. Head. For some to suggest Moyes hasn't had any say on the amount bid is preposterous.

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19 Aug 2013 14:18:36
Ed do you think we wil make moves to bring in players incase united raise there bid for fellani and baines {Ed025's Note - we will have irons in fires mate, a contingency plan if you will, im impressed by the clubs response at the moment though..

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I'd be more impressed if the club statement added that "none of our players are for sale".

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19 Aug 2013 14:06:31
Hit back and offer. £6m for Rooney!

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Good shout

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Why would we embarrass ourselves? That's all Man U are doing. Embarrassing themselves. I'm proud that Everton have maintained dignity throughout.

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Yes agree, the £6m is bit of an embarrassment! . Try £4m :-))

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19 Aug 2013 14:04:51
I just don't get it?. why all the fuss about Moyes coming in for players, when Martinez has raided Wigan?. why is the amount offered miles away from the value?. Fellani had 24m buy out which no club was prepared to pay, and Baines only has 2-3 seasons left. £35m is more than fair I'd say

Steve the manc {Ed025's Note - your bound to steve, how about us offering £20m for van persie and kagawa?...more than fair i,d say, get a grip mate!..

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You only offered 28 mill or do you know something we don't.

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Wigan are also raiding other clubs, we paid well over the odds for Kone from Wigan, so you will have to pay well over the odds for Baines and Fellaini.

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We paid 15 for fellaini 4 years ago is worth double that now on today's market if they don't want to pay 25m + then he ain't going anywhere sorry but if Liverpool not selling to rivals considering there position in table then neither are we do one utd you took are managment team best player england have produced in last 10 years now you want to strip is of our best players I thought you were the best run club so where is your policies utd have not brought anyone through for years that's why scholes came out of retirement and a 40 year old playing they say a player like Rooney comes round every ten years well guess what we have produced the next one Ross Barkley

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Get the facts straight first steve the manc, everton have only bought 1 player from wigan and that was kone and it was a very reasonable amount we paid, alcaraz didn't have a club and joel was from atheltico madrid

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So says Steve the Manc from Richmond. Clown.

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19 Aug 2013 15:22:18
Have a word with the less ugly Neville, see if he can't coach one of yer wonder kids.

Oh yeah you haven't any and have a manager who wantsvto develop his whiskey sniffing skills, he doesn't like youngsters.

And if our Leihhton hasn't got long enough for you go try unsettling someone else. The lad not going anywhere.

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You don't understand the fuss OP? That just about says it all!

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19 Aug 2013 15:32:35
lol went on their page before just as bad as kopites, saying we would never sell rodwell for 15m we only did it because we were going in to liquidation. yeah right and some of their fans consider luke shaw at the moment ti be better than baines and some say cleverley is better than fellaini. ask mourinho who he would rather have fellaini or cleverley and he will say felli any day ask moyes who he would rather have, your fans are just as silly as the rs you have no idea about football and I can name many stupid quotes from your fans here is two for starters

'get barkley for 5m going to have a big future' yeah we would sell our best prospect for 5m wouldn't we
'phil jagielka isn't good enough to lace jonny evans boots' the lot of youse have no idea about football hope ypur club goes in to ruins qnd city win the league after what moyes has done and just your clueless fans in general you also have some players I hate like cleverley and rio (not the best defender in his house, rather have amton tbh) so yeah enjoy your stint as champions while it lasts becuase when youse fall I will look down on your club and smile come on city! sorry for the rant ed please post this i'm annoyed like a lot of us

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Haha. bitter blues. I will come back end of the week after we have signed both players for £35m. (after they hand in transfer requests).

Steve the Manc {Ed025's Note - dont put your mortgage on it steve!..

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I think the deals will be completed for 35/40mil by the end of the week. Anyone saying Fil is worth 30Mil hasn't a clue about football. I personally don't want either of them. I would take anyone of our midfielders over Fil, and I would rather keep Evra for another year and go for Shaw.

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Only has 2-3 years left? WTF are you taking. He's 28. How old is Giggs? How old is Distin?
Baines keeps himself in top condition, and has only had like 1 injury in the last 2-3 years.

Some people don't know what the fudge they are talking about

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19 Aug 2013 18:59:07
so anderson and cleverly are better than fellaini ask ferguson and mourinho that, now who hasn't got a clue about football?

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Hasn't a clue about football! Pmsl bit rich from a utd a fan, in today's market fellaini is worth 30 mil easily, remember him making a fool of your side first game last season?probably not.he is unique, a one off.and as for your comment on baines, look at his stats.so you clearly know nothing about football yourself.

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19 Aug 2013 13:39:14
Why would Moyes bid an amount he knew would not even be in the ball-park? Davey and BK surely would have a chat before a formal bid was made. And why would Everton release the information if it would trigger the players requesting a transfer? And if it were Man U who leaked the info, why would they include the 'insulting' part, suggesting they don't value the players enough? Conspiracy theories to consider:

A) BK wants to make it look like he has played hard-ball before selling to avoid the public slaughter he will get when he eventually sells them

B) BK trying to flush out the players requests to move early enough to respond

Anyone else smelling something a bit fishy here?

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Hit the nail on the head with this its just another unsubstantiated rumour

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You obviously have too much time on your hands and too much herbs to smoke with this paranoid chat.

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19 Aug 2013 14:02:24
no I don't just Manchester United and moyes trying there hand, everton must have to inform the players of any bids received even ones which are blatenley
taking the p"^s we should bid 20 million for rooney and van persie moyes shafted us once already now he's at it again the man should be ashamed of himself all these people saying its not moyes .having a laugh so the chairman of Manchester United just made a bid without talking to mr moyes first, bill must be gutted

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Man U haven't got any money they mustn't have that bid is just poor

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You can keep both .Baines I rate but not at his age, I'd prefer Luke shaw.Fellaini simply isn't good enough.You honestly think anyone would pay 20 million for a29yr old left back and 30 million for a mediocre midfielder.GEt real {Ed025's Note - then why are you after them?....

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Nice reply Ed. Boy needs a labotomy.

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Well said ed

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How old was van persie when you bought him and how much did he cost? see. blows your baines theory to bits ye daft manc crank. 18BLUEBOY78

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19 Aug 2013 13:31:27
to all the beauts who say don't forget what the bog eyed ginger rat did for our club! get a grip, he got paid well for what he did and put on the map! he won nothing! he, s a rat!

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What's him being ginger got to do with anything?. Shocked and surprised a racist comment would be allowed on this site!. {Ed025's Note - thats not racist mate..get a grip!...he was affectionately known as the ginger one!, so stop trying to stir up things that are not there..

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He might be a rat now but when he was Everton manager he wasn't.

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19 Aug 2013 15:31:44
I find the comparison between the ginger ditherered one and rats upsetting. Rats help humanity in clinical testing. The other one didn't win a thing but incressed his bank balance with us.

The comparison of how the less healthy rats spread diease are apt, brown noseing was never more apt. oh i'm wesring jeans pfffff.

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2nd reply you are right he was Everton manager, pity he didn't learn from the experience and act with the same dignity as an Everton manager now isn't it?

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I can understand your feelings or should I say are feelings. never rated him (honest) to negative. now golam is trying to rip us off.i was one who at the last game off last season left on the final whistle.hate to say this but do you think the red rubbish would have clapped there manager and sang his name knowing he was going to man utd.they would have stoned him. sorry not a nice man.

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Moyes has shown zero respect for the club that got him to man utd!he moved us up a level yes but still won us f all.its all about bob now inMARTINEZwetrust

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19 Aug 2013 13:30:10
I really hope the club stand strong and tell united to give up as the lads aren't for sale and also have a word with the FA about the way united are going about everything including the Moyes deal and refuse to do any business with them.
On the other hand I think these tactics will work with Fellaini and he will ask to leave in those case I hope Man City come in with a bid which we should take just to prove we won't be messed around by united or Moyes.

SydneyBlue

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19 Aug 2013 13:23:04
Look guys let's face it its not looking very promising for baines an Fellaini staying. It'd not bought anyone an prob feel baines & Fellaini a cheaper option than fabragas an Another lb. I think it's going to happen last minute an they not going to be replaced. Said this would happen end of may!

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19 Aug 2013 13:15:32
Really impressed with the everton statement. Seems that since Alan Myers was put in charge of communication, the fans are not in the dark as much.

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Have to agree communication seems better. Does anyone else think its strange that he states that MU put a bid in for two players prior to the opening game of the season. Funnily enough Sky gave me the impression that the bid was recent as it came through as ! How much interest would there have been if it said MU put a bid in for Felli and Baines last week but it was rejected. So after MU's 4-1 win at the weekend do they actually need either player? Probably not as much as the media think. IMO MU will be looking for Marquee signing and would probably not just buy for the sake of buying. I would be more worried if Arsenal put the bid in.

SA90 {Ed025's Note - because they are desperate for a signing mate...the others they wanted told them where to go..

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19 Aug 2013 13:05:20
Well you can look at this 2 ways.

1. Moyes is taking the P and does not actually want the players but is making it look like united are trying to do some business to appease the fans.

Or 2. He is still taking the P and will up his offer.

Either way we should reject offers for both. I don't care if people think we can replace felliani, it won't be easy. On the other hand if they put in a transfer request it takes the pressure of the board.

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19 Aug 2013 12:52:22
Everton can confirm that it has received bids from Manchester United for two players. Those bids were immediately rejected out of hand as derisory and insulting.

The Club did not make public these details as it was vital Roberto Martinez’s preparations for the opening game of the Premier League season were not disrupted in anyway.

Alan Myers
Director of Communications.

Nor did it say don't come back

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Are Man U skint and that why they got ginger in .

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Just read this on the OS. If I was in charge at EFC i'd issue a statement to Manchester United saying that no further business will be done with them in this transfer window, as MUtoEFC embargo if you will.

Make a strong statement of authority, we're the ones holding all the chips!

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19 Aug 2013 12:45:41
i know i'm going to get hammered for this, but I would take the offer and use it now, instead of taking it on deadline day and yet again being left short {Ed025's Note - really??..

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19 Aug 2013 12:52:36
words can't describe my reply to this post, i'm going to get my sledgehammer

Degsy

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You would take 28 mil for felli and baines? seriously? you would be first in the queue to then criticise how those players weren't adequately replaced

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I would love to buy a car of you. Cheap as chips.

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Deffo a manc

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19 Aug 2013 12:43:54
was that offer for baines right peg and the cuttings off mop heads wig?clubs need to stand up to the mancs and tell them to pay proper prices for players and the fa should be looking into moyes move to the mancs as he already admitted he met up with fergie months before he left the blues, 10 million for rooney and throw in fellanis wig should seal a deal if that's how they want to play it! ETID COYB

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19 Aug 2013 12:42:02
Ed, has this £28M bid been confirmed by either club or is it a jorno with a wild imagination?

If it's true then I have no words for the lack of respect shown to us by Man Utd. It might be childish. but i'd throw a £20 bid in for their entire squad, make it public and see how they react.

Disco Dave {Ed025's Note - not confirmed yet dave..

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Ed 25, that is a blatant lie! It HAS been confirmed, United HAVE had a bid of £28 mil rejected. KEEP UP. {Ed025's Note - it had not been when i answered the post..

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19 Aug 2013 12:38:01
Absolute insulting bid from the mancs there. Lost all respect for Moyes. Fellaini is worth £30m alone.

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30M really? How come no offers for buy out clause at 23 M?
sTEVE

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19 Aug 2013 12:29:58
silence is deafening from the club. just come out and tell us officially if it is true and that's its been rejected and we won't welcome a new bid. the longer we stay quite, the more united will consider a new bid.
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EVERY news source is reporting we've immediately rejected it. Of course we have.

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19 Aug 2013 13:36:54
No silence from the Club. This was an official club statement. The offer was made and rejected last week.
AJ

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19 Aug 2013 12:29:20
Time for bk to come out and state that baines and felly anew not for sale and especially to united! If either of them want to go then let them but for the right price and with time tore place them!

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19 Aug 2013 12:18:14
The joke offer for our players, then leaking it to the press, amounts to illegal tapping up, everton should report this to the FA, UNT not above the rules, plus on a personal point david moyes should be ashamed, we made him, not the other way round.

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19 Aug 2013 12:10:17
when you look at evertons failure to close deals on players in the past now we know why. 28 mill whoever put the bid in are sniffing glue. Its nice to see a big club like man u trying to get players on the cheap. its embarrassing maybe this is why they went for moyes because they're skint and that 500million debt needs paying back. What do ya think ed?

FLIPPING FLIP FLOPS {Ed025's Note - i think they are playing games mate, i just hope it bites them on the arse..

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19 Aug 2013 11:15:12
I hope I am not tempting fate by saying this, but fair play to both fellaini & baines in all this transfer saga, at least they are not doing a Suarez & throwing their toys out of their pram & demanding to leave, but just knuckling down being professional & not letting it get to their heads & just playing their best for everton fc.
For what it's worth, I wouldn't let Bainsey go, don't mind fellaini so much - but my joint valuation for both of them would be 45-50 million. I think utds bid is purely one to try & unsettle the players concerned, either that or they are broke!

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This why everton never won anything under soft lad by treating other teams with no respect. He's got the all the money he can spend all the player he wants and he returns with a disrespect bid for the best left back in the world and a player he valued at 23 million the mans a proper ginger ming

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Just because baines and fellani haven't threw the toys out doesn't mean they don't want move, neither player has said they don't want move and won't be going anywere, to me the silence from both is deafaning.

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19 Aug 2013 11:15:06
£28m for Baines and Felliani WHat a joke Give us £29m and we will include Barkley. Stand firm Everton £25m for Felliani £20m for Baines oh and £100m for Barkley.
Otherwise Do ONE

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19 Aug 2013 14:56:52
What we are forgetting is that they are our players. Everton players. They can be as unsettled as they want but at the end of the day if we don't need to sell then don't.
Simples! We our Everton, we name our price!
Moyes is being a total person and if he calls this business then he needs to think again.

Sly, sly, sly
Grateful for what he did for us, but he is now being totally disrespectful.
Does make you think how good Bill and Davey's relationship really was or if it really did end badly behind scenes.
If so Bill deserves an oscar for the dignity he has shown!

I wonder if Davey will pull a sickie when we play 'em at Goodison.

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19 Aug 2013 11:13:40
Unted fan in peace. I've seen many of the posts on the United site and this one and I am a little embarrassed at how my club is behaving. Our whole transfer strategy this summer has appeared confused and given that Moyes will have had a value in mind for both Fellaini and Baines when we was Everton Manager, to come in with a low bid does not do him nor United any favours. I would love both players at OT and I think they are jus what is missing right now - but why we can't make a sensible offers beyond me. I believe £35M for both would be an offer worth discussing. For one of the richest cobs in the world to arse about like this is, well embarrassing. PS - how about we have Fellaini and Baines and you take Rooney back? :-) {Ed025's Note - you sound like a proper fan AJH, but for me £35m is still on the low side mate, especially with the limited time left to get replacements! but we will take rooney, kagawa, and van persie as a straight swap.. :)

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40 or 45 million

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19 Aug 2013 12:22:42
Top fan AJH, there are some proper nuggets on your pages mate (Shappy) etc.

I think you guys are struggling for cash to spend too or you are maybe saving the big chunk for a certain Portugese winger.

I personally think 40 million at a minimum would probably do it, looks to me like they may be coming your way soon mate as we may as well face it that we are a selling club, that's what happens when only one of your board members is a blue nose and its the only one with no money lol

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Degsy, Shappy is a top lad, I just think people have quite clear views on what layers are worth. Remember Chelsea bid £25M for Rooney who cost us more than that when we bought him. I just wish we would stop behaving like some hard up club looking for bargains. You don't see Barca, Chelsea, Madrid arseing around like this. DM must know how much is required, he has a good relationship with BK, why this is in the press and why the bid is low (IMO) is beyond me

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19 Aug 2013 10:54:38
Moyes taking the piss"hope he fails in evetything

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19 Aug 2013 10:39:19
Moyes rated £20mill at baines last season"so he gone down 8mill in pre season.

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He is the buyer now not seller

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19 Aug 2013 10:34:18
If man u are taking the p*** why don't we take the p*** and bid a combined £15mill for rooney+van persie :)

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19 Aug 2013 10:30:50
My concern us that the club at the start of the summer was believed to have given Leighton an offer of a new contract to double his wage. There is no mention of Leighton signing that contract. If Leighton and fella want to go. We should reject Man U terrible shameful offer and offer the pair to arsenal.
Man U may bully the fa officials and other teams not us .

I say viva mourinho and hope Chelsea or city win the league.

Eric D

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Really don't want baines to leave, and I agree about the signing of his contract it has dragged it's feet and now I can only see him leaving. Don't reckon it will affect his professionalism though where as Fellaini on the other hand will hand in transfer request IMO. Bluenose Will

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Agree with most of that Eggsy lad but I don't hope chelsea or city win the league, I hope we do.

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19 Aug 2013 10:10:09
The bid is to unsettle felli
His dad will be in papers at somepoint
Pushing for the move an tbh I think rob
N bill have been waiting for this just
Hope we can bleed them dry. We need
a CB an two CM's an LB! Will we get them
tho?.

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19 Aug 2013 10:02:22
Just been on the Mancs page and even they think the bid is insulting and are quite angry they bid so little

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19 Aug 2013 09:58:52
Tell Manchester United 45 to 50m for Fellani and Baines or a swap deal with Fellani and Rooney plus 5m

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19 Aug 2013 09:57:02
Get onto this guy blues, Manchester United fan, absolutely clueless, feel free to let him know because I have, probably won't get posted though Degsy

19 Aug 2013 09:38:09
The double bid for Fellaini and Baines is interesting. Of course Everton haven't revealled when that bid was made. Which is a key element to the transfer.

Some people are saying that 28m is an insult, but when all things are considered I don't think its too far off their real valuation. Fellaini is worth between 16-18m imo and Baines between 12-14m. I certainly wouldn't pay more than 32m for them combined.

I know other will disagree but Fellaini had a release clause of 23m and no one was willing to pay it. This shows that 23m is far too much as most teams are prepared to pay a little bit too much to secure the right player and they all feel 23m is more than abit too much.

As for Baines his value is effected by his age, he has 2/3 year definately left as a top player but after that its debateable how long he'll remain a top player. He could suffer a serious injury which he never quite recovers from due to his age, or he could just fade away. So in real terms he is a short term solution with no resale value. If we sign him for 12m and pay him 4m a year on a four year deal then that's a 28m investment without considering all the other fees involved in signing him. And for a player who may only be a top player for 2/3 years that's a lot of money. And bear in mind he is likely to cost more than 12m and will likely earn more than 4m a year.

So between 28-32m is about right for them both.

Shappy


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- {Ed025's Note - utd fans really do astound me at times shappy!, you think you can ride roughshod over teams with less money dont you? i tell you what, give us kagawa and van persie for the same money..

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19 Aug 2013 10:35:08
It was from me Ed,

I cut and pasted what the manc SHAPPY posted, deluded or what, they posted my reply though which was nice of them, blanked all the swear words out myself beforehand though

Degsy

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R u off your rocker baines is best left back in prem and fellaini is unplayable at his best your well of the mark one is 28 other 24 so they are not old

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If I remember right, van persie, last year, how old? how much paid? how long on his contract? how much his wages? did this fan really do his homework like he is trying to show, fool!

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A fair price for me would be £37m. £22m for Fellaini and £15m for Baines. But you cannot go straight in with a £37m offer. You have to start low. MU would have known the £28m would have been rejected, but you have to get the ball rolling.

Sydney! {Ed025's Note - more like it syd..but still not enough mate, you know as well as me that you are desperate!, all your targets have rejected you, and the natives are getting restless...at the moment you are miles behind chelsea and city as title contenders, and rooney throwing his toys out the pram means we are your last hope!...so its up to us to take advantage, i just hope our board see it the same way..

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I'd say £40m is a fair and realistic price. £22m for Fellaini and £18m for Baines. Anything less should be met with silence or a 'feck off, you are joking, right'?

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19 Aug 2013 09:55:06
What you think will happen ed? Personnely think felli will try & force a move through by handing in a transfer, don't think that is baines's style .deano {Ed025's Note - i have a nasty feeling, that at least one of them will go deano, i would love to be wrong though mate..

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They're as good as gone, or at least one will agitate for a move, most likely Fellaini. BK needs to dig his heels in and refuse to trade for less than £40m minimum. £28m is an absolute piss take, Moyes knows exactly how we value them and would've advised their CEO accordingly.
Go **** yourself Moyes you person

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Don't mind Felli going but not Baines.

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19 Aug 2013 09:45:25
Ed I heard you earlier last week say Fellani was worth 15 million. So really we put in a bid for Baines for 13 million. 35 million will get us these players what you reckon? and Moyes only interest is UTD at the moment Everton is all in the past now come on deal with it. {Ed025's Note - i have never said felli is worth £15m mate!, if his buyout was £23.5m, why would we sell for less??...that makes the bid for baines..£4.5m!!!!...if we accepted anything like their derisory offer...i will be calling for heads to roll..

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For a start its spelt fellaini. Ed said last week when asked a question he'd prob pay 15 but he'd ask for 30 I think you will find {Ed025's Note - not this ed mate!..

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I said Fellaini was a 15 million pound player but in todays market it is all about pools of players and where agents place them. Fellaini is 100% in the CL pool, considering there are few if any like for like players his price is inflated, eg Bale. I would say Fellaini will be priced by his agent and by Everton at about 25 mill, with an aim to get 30 if more than one team is interested. Baines is not for sale, and if he was due to similar reasons he would arguably be priced around 30 - 35 million despite his age. If Fabregas is worth at leat 50 in my opinion there are other players as good as him, in terms of the PL there is not a left back in the same league as Baines hence the inflated price. So 40 mill is not too far from the price, just add another 50% and i'm sure we would listen

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19 Aug 2013 09:36:45
not an everton fan but I agree baines is priceless to u but he is 29 and a lb the absolute max u should get is 12m if u think 20-30 u need to get the blue glasses off I think 35m for the pair is right imo {Ed025's Note - no mate, i dont think you have got scooby to be honest..

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19 Aug 2013 09:47:16
At 29 why bother selling him then. We only paid £6M for him so at todays prices he is an absolute steal. Selling him only does one thing and that is pay down some more of the debt whilst allow the team to regress.

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How much did A Cole go for? Because since then there has been great inflation and besides he's twice the player Cole is and he puts the ball in the back of the net, England's best LB or more so as a LWB £12m behave yourself!

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No clue what your on about are you. Baines was in the top 5 players accross europe in creating chances last season! he's worth atleast 18 mill.

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Actually he's 28. And he's worth more than £12m. At least £18m possibly £20m.

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Easy not Everton fan. So not your business.

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You can't say baines is worth 12m max, for starters he's not even for sale

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19 Aug 2013 09:33:07
It's a poor offer but it tell's me utd want the 2 players and will probably get them. How much I reckon 38 million will seal the double deal.

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19 Aug 2013 09:24:16
So moyes values felli less than he paid for him now!

This is an insult and we should be able to report them or something its a joke!


L4 4EL

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19 Aug 2013 09:14:08
EVERTON MUST BE BRAVE AND SIGN TWO MIDFIELDERS NOW. THAT GIVES US POWER TO DRIVE UP FELLI'S PRICE AS HE WILL DEFO ASK TO LEAVE NOW UTD HAVE SHOWN THEIR HAND - £28 MIL FOR FELLI IS FAIR. BAINSEY MUST STAY UNLESS VERY SILLY MONEY, £25m PLUS IS OFFERED AND SUITABLE REPLACEMENT CAN BE GUARANTEED IN TIME.

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19 Aug 2013 09:08:28
28 million? Moyes has some nerve. Get lost starting to really dislike this man. {Ed025's Note - moyes does not set the price, he is just a pawn in the game of bullying that is MUFC, it just seems like it..

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Ed, Ed, Ed, come on don't be silly, Moyes is there manager of cause he has his say, he's no pawn, starting to think your a mutd fan at the moment

Baz {Ed025's Note - no baz, moyes is a pawn, SAF is still pulling the strings mate, his CV tells us that he did not warrant the appointment in the first place!..

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I don't agree Ed, maybe behind the scene fergie still pulls a few strings however moyes is still targeting 2 of our best players last minute, regardless whether he is controlling the price of the bid or not he is doing the exact thing he kicked off over on the Lescot farce, no respect what so ever

Baz {Ed025's Note - i agree its him who wants them baz, just that its not him who is the organ grinder mate..

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Ferguson still pulling the strings but c'mon moyes must have some respect for everton and have some say!
Sioncinni

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Ed, new poster here, and I understand what you are saying that Moyes doesn't have a say, but he must have some input as he is the do-nut that has to face the press when getting a grilling over the insulting offer. {Ed025's Note - he identifies the targets jbd, and thats it mate..

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Ed is right Moyes o no manager dictates a price for players That is all done by the money men. All's he does is identify the players he wants. The days of managers having a say in transfers are long gone. Martinez said the other week when he was asked if they would still be here in Sept that he couldn't answer that it is not down to manager to know these things in the modern game.

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19 Aug 2013 08:53:39
Is moyes having a laugh. Its at least 30 for baines

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19 Aug 2013 08:48:05
everton reject double 28m bid from man united for felli and baines try 28mil each moyes get back to smoking your crack pipe

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We should make a counter offer. give us the 28 mill and they can have leighton's right foot.

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19 Aug 2013 08:38:33
I relly hope after we rejected that joke of a double bid we tell man united to do 1.we need to stay strong and never do business with them again after this.i know moyes is not in charge of the amount of money that they bid for players but he knows better than anyone that bid is a total lack of respect to us.i mean in todays market big felliani is worth 30 mill(after his clause expired)and baines is priceless!we should take note of the way that spurs deal with their best players.they get the best price they can get every time.eg modric and now bale(if he goes).

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Totally agree with you and while we at it, sign Barkley on new deal and put 80 million clause in it, then top it up every year by 10 million, coyb

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I totally agree!

Completely undervalues the players and our club for them to think we're that desperate for cash we'll sell our best assets for a lot less than they're worth!

And although Moyes doesn't control the purse strings surely they'd listen to his opinion of this being a completely ludicrous bid. He knows exactly what they're worth and what he'd have held out for if he was still our manager.

After everything that has transpired since Moyes left (that he knew about the job since Jan and bidding for Bainsey while he was still on our payroll and now this) my opinion of him and his integrity has completely gone downhill.

£12 mil for Baines is a complete insult and now that Felli's clause has expired; the MU powers that be are living in cooko land if they think that he'll go for anything less than the clause. The ball is firmly in our court now and we can demand any amount we see appropriate!

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19 Aug 2013 01:47:30
Any ideas ed what positions martinez is looking to strengthen {Ed025's Note - midfield is the priority mate..

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Central midfield mate, and he also wants a CB. I expect a CB and a CM without selling anyone.

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We need a good striker more than anything else

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19 Aug 2013 10:02:11
Just seen we turned down £28M from Utd for Fellaini and Baines! Are they actually taking the michael! Just trying to unsettle them! They need to understand straight to give up on Baines and if they want Felli they will need £35M. Let's do a Levey on them, every time a derisory off comes back that's another £1M on the price tag. Come on BK play hard with these jokers!

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19 Aug 2013 00:12:37
Ed, do you actually think we will sign anyone else in this window because there are absolutely nothing happening {Ed025's Note - yes i do mate..

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State someone Ed. please. {Ed025's Note - they would just be guesses mate..

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Listen to Ed he knows the score.
BlueWarrior.

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18 Aug 2013 22:53:55
Sound ed, any truth in these victor Moses rumours? {Ed025's Note - a few whispers mate, but nothing concrete..

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