Everton Rumours Archive January 21 2019

 

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21 Jan 2019 15:22:53
martinez from a relegated club, silva from a relegated club and then one looking like they would go down, we buy a central defender 30m from a club fighting or on the fringe of relegation, we loan a central defender who has just spent the last season being relegated, a central mid-fielder who has a few good touches, then receives maximum sympathy when he's complete rubbish thereafter, another from a relegated club, when will we ever learn.

i admit that that could probably be our level these days, posters say as soon as we get a proven goalscorer we'll be fine, how's he going to stop us shipping goals? or score when the garbage behind him can't even string together two or three passes to a teammate, with one exception the players brought in are not performing or are not good enough, or is it poor management, silva and brandts and morishi supposed to be messiahs no chance, someone posted 10 points in the next 4 games i'd be happy with 10 points by may.

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21 Jan 2019 16:18:42
it was me who posted 10 points, listen mate its how u look at it, we signed 3 Barcelona players a chelsea player and young brazilian forward who has scored goal for us, and is it keane your talking about from a team fighting relegation? Burnley wer nowhere near relegation when he was at the club, glass half full for me.
what would u have us do mate sack silva sack brands and farhad sell up? yea that's a plan isn't it.
just give it time, too many of our fans want instant success well in reality that doesn't just happen it takes time.

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21 Jan 2019 17:54:30
Very good reply Johny mate, OT over the top.

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21 Jan 2019 19:30:07
Burnley in a lower league, bought Trevor Steven, Neville Southall from Bury, Graeme Sharp from Dumbarton, Kevin Sheedy who was playing for the reserves along with Alan Harper, Peter Reid from Bolton, Paul Bracewell from Sunderland.

None from a top class team, being a bit harsh on the players we bought old timer.

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21 Jan 2019 19:09:46
GB. I have mentioned and suspected that Mr Moshri (not being a football man) takes advice from someone who judging by our recruitment (s) gives bad advice. Seemingly confirmed from one of the Eds. I along with many did not want Martinez, I applauded Koeman did not read his CV but based on his Southampton tenure, as it turns out I was wrong. Mr Silva is totally different, there is no logical reason based on his Premiership CV, why he should have been appointed. The only reason now why he should be kept to season end, is because there are worse teams below us.

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21 Jan 2019 18:58:26
thanks GB just trying to remain level headed, yes wer playing poor but sacking the manager and blaming farhad and brands is a joke, some fans get me down there so eager to be negative that they can't see the positives wer riding the club ov the mistake buys and slowly replacing them with better, are zouma and mina better than williams and jags? yes, is richarlison better than niasse? yes, is bernard better than bolasie? yes, is gomes better than sniderlain? yes.
wer not in a position to sign top players wer not attractive to them so we have to just slowly improve each position and brands and silva are doing that.

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21 Jan 2019 20:05:24
ducks u don't half waffle sometimes its like your first 3 quarters of every message are copy and paste, WE KNOW U didn't WANT SILVA but he's here so support him like we r ment to do as suppprters, the clue is in the name, let's sack everyone after 6 months before they have there own team in place, your beloved rafa wouldn't sort this out in 6 months, he just a Spanish allerdyce npw, he was good 10 years ago but times have moved on from him same a jose same as wenger times change silva is a new young manager who needs time please give him that time.

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21 Jan 2019 18:58:26
thanks GB just trying to remain level headed, yes wer playing poor but sacking the manager and blaming farhad and brands is a joke, some fans get me down there so eager to be negative that they can't see the positives wer riding the club ov the mistake buys and slowly replacing them with better, are zouma and mina better than williams and jags? yes, is richarlison better than niasse? yes, is bernard better than bolasie? yes, is gomes better than sniderlain? yes.
wer not in a position to sign top players wer not attractive to them so we have to just slowly improve each position and brands and silva are doing that.

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21 Jan 2019 21:27:20
Agree Johny some just can’t grasp it eh mate.

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21 Jan 2019 23:10:11
A football supporter - a person who is actively interested in and wishes success for a particular football team.

How about we do that lads and get behind the team, club and management!

Some of you don’t half moan, if it isn’t BK it’s Brands the. Silva then one or other player!
Let’s breath some positivity into the club this is a transition season.

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21 Jan 2019 23:41:28
That’s why he has gone and got Brands to take care of all football aspects, I think silva needs time and so does Brands this was never a quick fix even though last 4 seasons have felt like it.
Brands needs a couple of seasons to build block by block getting rid of dead wood and bringing in the right players.

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22 Jan 2019 06:56:31
So the OP hasn't realised that the Leicester team that won the Premier the other year was made up from a few players deemed not good enough by the previous employer, (Danny Simpson, Robert huth, Albrighton and a few more) a defender who had strength but no speed (Morgan) . A journeyman striker in Vardy and a couple of astute signings, N'kante, Mahrez and a couple more. It's about our players playing as a team and having the right balance. I think we will do ok.

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22 Jan 2019 11:28:10
Reds fan here in peace chaps.

Just to point out our starting left back was bought from that same relegated Hull side. Fans favourite Gini Wijnaldum was brought in from a relegated Newcastle and one of the best value for money summer signings Shaq was brought in from relegated Stoke. All sit at the top of the table having played their part this season.

Coming from a relegated club doesn't make you a bad player.

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{Ed025's Note - thats very true mate..

22 Jan 2019 12:19:44
A good manager improves players as Moyes did, as Kendall did etc.
It seems however that players are going backwards under Silva and his premier record is very very poor.
I am baffled as to how we not only appointed this man but Moshiri actively hunted him illegally, something is badly wrong at the top.
While I never boo at games I am 110% against this manager as many are becoming. Are owner knows nothing about football sadly. He is not the first successful business man to fail in football, Alan Sugar springs to mind at Spurs and he was a fan of the club.

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22 Jan 2019 12:52:04
dark cloud what would your ideal be then? sack silva and farhad sell up?

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22 Jan 2019 14:23:32
There really are some negative *&^"*s on here.
Anything to criticise.
It takes an LFC supporter (amongst others) to point out that just because a player comes from a relegated or struggling club doesn't make HIM a bad player. Youngsters have to start somewhere.
The same players you criticise as being from relegated / struggling clubs have played for their countries, have played for Man Utd or Chelsea. But that wouldn't suit your constant negativity would it.

It is about building a TEAM not 11 individuals.
The sum of the parts is what counts and often it just takes one or two things to click.

Look at us in 84 / 85.
Look at leicester City. If we had signed Wes Morgan or Danny Simpson or a striker from non league (Vardy) then imagine your moaning then.
They almost got relegated season before. Same players.
They had a phenomenal run to escape relegation. Carried the confidence gained over to the next season. Something just clicked and that is the difference between success and failure.
And confidence comes from positivity.
Just try it. You will be far happier.

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22 Jan 2019 14:36:52
Good Question Johny.
Well I do not think there is any point sacking Silva till the end of the season as we will not go down so let's just see the season out.
As for Moshiri, well he is the owner so I hope he will see that his advisors are replaced with others and he realises that the way he profiles a manager does not work.
Of course there is no guerantee who ever you appoint will be a success but his present managers he recruits are failing badly.
My personal leaning at present is towards Arteta who was ignored last time even though he was interested. The reasons are firstly he knows Everton and he knows what the supporters look for and expect. As a coach he is working under a great manager at City and when you watch City you can see his passion from the bench, we need a passionate manager, both Koeman and Silva do not have this for me.
He worked as a player with Moyes and Wenger so he will have learned about different styles of football.
Ok so some may agree or disagree but this is my thinking.
Whatever we do we need a better plan to make Everton great again. I can wait 10 years if things seem to be going in the right direction look at Spurs but there is sadly no sign of that.

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22 Jan 2019 15:50:26
whats worse is this has been taken from a kopites twitter oh my word. Martinez came closest to the champions league. as for the relegated players shout, shaqiri seems to have worked for them?

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22 Jan 2019 18:54:51
dark clouds arteta would have been in my top 3 to take over aswell i agree with what u say about him completely but then he has no experience in actual management and could flop then everyone would say why did we appoint citys no2 do u see what am saying, our fans are to quick to kick off.

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