Everton Rumours Archive June 22 2013

 

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22 Jun 2013 22:19:43
Fellaini naismith baines jagielka jelavic all leaving in come Andre santos Cameron jerome Caldwell mcarthur mcmanaman all coming in

Me mate has told me this

Becky Gorman {Ed025's Note - unless your mate is derek akorah..dont believe it becky..

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My mate got the Mirallas and pienaar deal right last summer

Becky Gorman

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Worst load of tosh I've ever read on this site and that's saying something.

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Sell our three best players and bring in some of the worst players to ever play in the premier league? we would be in the championship within a year.

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I'm not sure a team with a squad as thin as Everton's would get rid of that many players. Already gave up Bidwell, Hitzlsperger, Much a and the rest. surely that means the aim is to build the squad? I don't think we'll be disappointed in this window, but I also don't reckon we'll get more than three new faces. after all, we can't gamble all uncle Ken's money this summer, when January will require a transfer window rethink. personally I'm hoping for Amido Balde. not sure if that ship has sailed, but imagine him and big victor up front, mashing defences? That would be hilarious. even if they don't score

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Most blatant made up rumour of the month award goes to Becky

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Oh thanks Becky, I've just ad a flashback to my teens, sitting in the Gwladys Street watching what Walter Smith has put out!

I very much doubt what your mate has told you will happen, Martinez is trying to build not dismantle. But I'm not one to shoot the messenger, we'll wait and see. Thanks for the info too

I'm off for a beer after the flashback

TJ

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Don't bite for gods sake as it's obvious she has no idea what she's talking about.

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I would only take one Ayer from tat list what s mcmanaman Baines jags are DEFINTELY. Staying

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Becky. think you need a sleep.

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Much as I enjoy kopit's desperate cluching at strews, we no longer worry about the smaller teams below us!

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Go home becky, your drunk

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Caldwell? Gary Caldwell? or Steven Caldwell? Gary Caldwell isn't good enough to play for Chester City never mind us! How can you put him in the same league as Distin an Jags?

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Andre Santos? Even Martiez wouldn't be soft enough to sign him and I'd rather have Jelavic and Victor than Jerome

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No chance of this happening. That would be a purposeful downgrade. If we sell big players, we need to buy big players.

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I wouldn't belive it if derek achora was her mate. P. s. Why if we don't like what someone says do we say must be kopite, no wonder they say we are paranoid

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In this instance, it's not the fact that people might not like it, it's just, well, erm, bullsh*t

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22 Jun 2013 21:31:15
I would take 15 million from Moyes for Fellaini and take Hernandez in part exchange. he would bang the goals in for the blues.
Toffeeman 1878

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I think we all would, if Felli expressed a desire to leave that is.

But, I think united would value Hernandez at more that around 9 million if I'm honest

TJ

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23 Jun 2013 09:08:50
NO! He never scores when he starts and has one of those faces that I want to punch i'd have him if united paid us 15 million to have him and paid his wages

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Same for me PKBLUE

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Wow some people are stupid Hernandez is quality!
SpekeBlue

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TJ - Exactly, if Felli's buy-out is 22-24m and hernandez is 9 that is 15 and Hernandez?!

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23 Jun 2013 12:48:04
Im stupid? Whar does hernandez actually do? How often do you see him outpace or dribble past 2 or 3 players then score? Has a habit of someone kicking the ball at his foot from 2 yards out and it so happens to go in oh did I also mention he has no physical attributes to him whatsoever?

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Hernandez would be perfect. We need a poacher. But would not be suitable if Martinez plays with a 4-3-3 formation.

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22 Jun 2013 16:29:05
My uncle who always seems to be right and know all the info with everton. Seems to be convinced that the first signing of Robertos will be made clearer this week. He said it will mostly likely be someone on a free or a few million player from abroad

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By reading between the one sound lke Torres

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Agree fully expect are first signing to be a free like Honda, Simpson or Alcaraz. Or then some cheap gem from abroad. What you think ed? {Ed025's Note - if its honda..then happy days..

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23 Jun 2013 09:11:29
So basically he thinks we are signing anyone outside the prem? Hardly a guess is it no wonder he is usually right its like me saying 'im usually right about these things and I believe evertons goalkeeper in 15 years time will not wear green, red and ping all on his gloves at the same time

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Is he always right because he is ridiculously vague about everything that about a dozen possibilitys could lead to him claiming he`s right?

what a like about that it always right it that people put there opinion out there and nail their colours to the mast.

I have a rumour that we will sign someone I the future and I`m always right

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One of 40 horses will win next years Grand National. I'm never wrong!

Come on I know this is a rumour website, that was ridiculously vague!

Dave M

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22 Jun 2013 14:08:35
I've heard we have a 20% sell on clause for Wayne Rooney. 20% of 40 odd million would be a welcome addition to Roberto's transfer kitty (unless the bank take it all).

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U heard wrong, maybe 20% over 28m but that's about the best we could hope for

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22 Jun 2013 14:56:42
20% of sell on above value we sold him for so would equate to about £2Mill. Every little helps like, but not the bumper package we would have liked or you expect.

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Not bad couple of million considering we sold him over 10 years ago

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The bank don't take any more money when we have it. Bill chose to give Arteta's money to the banks to reduce the heat. The banks only take a set amount each month.

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Better than a kick in the teeth

Rich84

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We took saha from utd on a free but they drew a line under the rooney deal. the last trophies utd won we didn't get any payments and when utd won the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE we didn't get a payment which was in the orignal deal, but like said moyes took saha and utd called it quits

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What would happen if he came to us ed? Unlikely I know but what would happen to the sell on fee? {Ed025's Note - i dont know mike..

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It s only 20% of above 20m

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It's only 20% of anything over the initial price so if sold for £40m we only get 20% of £11m

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22 Jun 2013 12:39:57
I'm a qpr fan, just to let you toffees no, leroy fer at loftus road having talks. {Ed025's Note - thanks for the info mate...but if his ambition is to play for QPR in the championship, then hes not a player for us (no offence)..

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Can't see that happening to be honest, even though I don't think we'll get him anyway

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So Leroy Fer, a player rated as highly as Jordy Clasie and Kevin Strootman (With whom are both linked to big moves like United and Chelsea), is at Loftus Road to sign for a small club in the Championship to play under an atrocious manager whilst competing with 50 primma donnas? Turn it in will you.

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I don't think there's any offence in there Ed. the fact is, QPR are in the 2nd tier. End of.

If he's linked to, and came so close to joining, a Premier League club, then he signs for a Championship club, he has no ambition. Especially considering how QPR are hardly the most smooth club at the moment with them having carp players on £100k+ a week.

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22 Jun 2013 16:28:01
weird thing that, loftus road must have held the confed cup as his twitter says he's still over there. awkward

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Erm, the Dutch are not in the confed cup baru

TJ

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BS, massive step down from were he is

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Lets hope so he's crap anyway

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23 Jun 2013 11:15:08
no they aren't but leroy fer is over there watching as is pienaar

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22 Jun 2013 11:59:08
If the Fellani fee is met, does that mean it has tp be paid in one lump sum i. e. If Arsenal meet the amount but say they will pay over three years, can we reject it as it doesn't meet the buy out clause?

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Good point, hopefully the clause involves the fee being payed in full or 80/90% of it upfront, hope someone can answer

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Not 100% sure but as far as I know yes the upfront fee is what has to activate the clause so it could be 150 million but only a tenner upfront so we could reject it, the overall some is irrelevant its the upfront fee that has to trigger the clause, the only thing i'm unsure about is, is the clause only for automatic champions league places i. e already guarenteed group stage or can 3rd and 4th place teams activate it like arsenal? or is the clause just for everyone?

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All details done between EPL club's monies must be paid in full within 12 months.

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Good question.

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This can be rejected, yes. The buyout fee is up front.

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At the end ov the day if felli wants to go hel go its as simple as that

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Nobody pays the fees up front. Not even the man city's and chelski's of this world. If it's a team from the same association it has to be paid within 12 months.

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As far as I'm aware all transfer fees between English clubs must be paid in full within a 12 month period, apart from add ons.

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Amazing that so many people know the details of clauses that if they exist will have been made privately between player and club. link to anything substantial that proves there is a fixed fee or anything beyond the usual clauses you get in any big contract would be useful but I fear be non existent. this doesn't include a newspaper randomly saying there is a clause. if a player wants to leave to a bigger club they usually find a way of making it happen. I don't see Fellaini being in a different position from any player who is performing well at any club

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22 Jun 2013 11:58:48
Soldado. Will be our big buy

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Hope so. up top wid jelavic

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And you lent bill 20 million for soldado when? they aren't in money issues after sunday valencia when isco goes as they have a 35% sell on fee from what malaga get for him so it will be around about a free 10 million pound for them, no need to sell sodado then

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We won't have a 'Big buy' and if we do it'll likely by Fer, definitely not signing Soldado this transfer window.

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I think there is every chance we might go for soldado, with the extra tv money plus sales. Also martinez promised us champions lge, he will need to spend to deliver that

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'Going' for Soldado and signing Soldado are two different things. Plus, even if Martínez did spend big on an striker, there's 100 others out there.

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No Bill said He promised him CL, when Roberot spoke he was wise to distnace himself from the comment. stating that "cl is always the goal". he never said I WILL GET YOU CL!

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22 Jun 2013 10:54:46
Yes agree plus we got another 15 on top of that to spend with the Fellani. Money and that 15 m buy fer negrado mcmanaman. Moses. With Alcaraz. On a free transfer

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I think we need

waynama 10m
ba or lukaku on loan
alcaraz free

sell

hetinga
Naismith
gueye

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We could buy ba and lukaku on loan buy fer get Honda Alcaraz. For free

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We don't have to sell Fellani sell. Heitinga gueye plus our 15 m tospend on top with the free transfer of Honda and Alcaraz

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Since when is Honda free? He won't be a free this window.

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Honda supposedly has a 4million euro asking price or free in december, you all forget about other fees that come into with signings if we get two 6 million pound players then really that's 15 million spent after fees etc, even alcaraz on a free has agent fees signing on fees, no such thing as a free transfer really, lukaku will start most games for mourinho very drogba esq player, ba has a ****ed knee and is old plus can go away with acon, don't know when they are? why sell gueye when we don't know how he's developed? naismith give another season squad numbers and it was his first season after 16 months out so may come good, i'd sell heitinga though and personally think marouane is as likely to stay as go

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Honda is a free agent this window mate don't no we're u got that from but u have been lied to simples. LIAM

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Not good enough too many squad players. and are we changing our name to ex wigan fc?

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As of yet the is no Fellaini money as he is very much STILL an Everton player.

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Demba ba. That F***d knee of his that was a big 'issue' when he left west ham has been pretty bloody healthy hasn't it, and that's over 2 seasons. The guy scores goals with half chances. Last season we had more chances than the opposition in most games and couldn't bag the goals required to turn draws into wins. With probably 5 more goals all season in the games against lower teams we cruise into Europe. I would take him any day of the week.

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Liam do you even follow football? honda is still under contract with cska moscow until 31-12-13, the only contract we can offer him till then is a pre contract like we did with beckford, however if we want him now we have to pay cska moscows asking price, that's the only 'simples' part about the honda deal i'm afraid, do you're research before you blab off! us and about 15 other european clubs are discussing him, we just happen to be one of only to known prem admirers, liverpool also had interest back in january, but no club can sign him on a free until the 31st of december when his contract ends, ED can you also confirm this? {Ed025's Note - as far as i am aware, liam is right baru..

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You have to remember the on costs for transfers, signing on fees, wages and agent fees so its not a simple 5 million for this player etc. Also a %age of Fellaini's fe goes to his former club

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No Liam, I haven't been lied to, his contract is up on 31st December 2013. The information is freely available, all you have to do is look.

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I replied first, just don't think we need to or should want to flood the squad with 5, 6, 7 average players by selling felliani, if are hands forced then buy Honda and soldado, but not 3 or 4 matadors and a mexican

good team team last year but his persistence to not let the younger players play was annoying, in particular I mean hettinga because there's no way duffy could of played worse than that tool

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Il tell you why you sell gueye because he's awful, please don't say he needs a run in the team because that won't improve his ability

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22 Jun 2013 10:53:26
Buy:
Manga, fer, soldado
Get honda and alcaraz on free
Loan demba ba
Sell jelavic, heitinga, gueye

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I love this 'Buy : Manga' etc. Why because he's linked to us? I bet the majority have never heard of him let alone seen him play before the papers linked him to us.

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I certainly have. He was linked with arsenal, liverpool and tottenham in the past!

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Why is everyone sayin sell Jelavic? The man is a natural born scorer

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Ive seen him play twice, both on eurosport, once against lille and he was made to look a schoolboy and against tolouse where he was the best player on the pitch so its hard to say how good he is really, but against lille he was awful enough for me to not really want us to spend big on him, manga fer soldado honda alcaraz would cost in the region of 40 million, where did we swindle 40 million from?

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I agree to the question on Jelavic, why would we sell him, if he had the service in the second half of the season as he had in the first or the back end of the season before he would have scored more. Anyone who went the game last year would have seen as the season went on Pienaar insisting on taking to many extra touches or only wanting to pass to Baines rather than supply Jelavic. I love pienaar as a player but he needs the greediness slapping out of him.

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Why sell jelavic he had 1 bad season see how he is next season

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Its obvious why people are saying sell jelavic because your natural born goal scorer hasn't been scoring, i'd give him another year as backup to see if he's still making air shots and running out of breath likes been in a marathon after five minutes, let's see what Martinez gets out of him

MikeDeBlue

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Are you deluded jelavic should be in the box and that's exactly were he was, baines created the most goal scoring oppertunites from wide positions in Europe so to say he never had the service is Ludacris, it was the fact no one was in the box in the right place to finish, pienaars link up with baines in the first six months was are main threat

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Isn't Ludacris a hip-hop/rap artist?

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Why do you want alcaraz, he is s****

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23 Jun 2013 13:09:41
i'd give jelavic another year and if he has another awful season then I would sell him

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22 Jun 2013 10:48:04
Hope that martinez does not purchase too many players from abroad who are not fit early season and are only ready towards the end of the season. but then again we could work well for use if we start well. everton two team season. coyb

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22 Jun 2013 10:25:26
arsenal look like they will sign fellaini for 24 million I think we should by negredo and fer with that money maybe a few more players if bill gives us the cash

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Id rather have waynama seen him a few times looks a lot better

MikeDeBlue

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Waynama is overated, we need players to take us to next level

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22 Jun 2013 09:56:25
Arsenal set to bid 24 mill for Fellaini in the next 24 hours this rumour is everywhere now, thank god we can finally put this to bed and move on hope we invest the money wisely.

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If we get a higher offer than the release from a third party, are we free to sell to the highest bidder?

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The rumour is not everywhere its just in the same papers that said he had agreed to join Chelsea and then was going to UTD they are just throwing it out there. Plus I know for a fact he has just bought another house which he is moving into in Cheshire!

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Some people are clueless on here. we hold a players contract, why would we have to sell or why would they think he has or can only be sold for that value. Irs a minimum. Go have a look on ebay same process

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22 Jun 2013 19:01:42
Stop paying heed to lazy journalists. Fellani has stated publicly that he's happy to stay at EFC. It seems that, judging by some posts, there are certain supporters who believe reporters who are no more than a gossip columnists. If Felli does go it will be on Evertons terms, not the buying club.

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For gods sake we don't want to sell Fellaini and buy lesser players! Why are so called evertonians happily spending money from the sale of our class players that have been developed by the club??

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22 Jun 2013 09:54:36
Bruno manga deal close

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22 Jun 2013 09:34:24
Comment in the media claims martinez is waiting to meet the squad before making any additions. He has spoken with jagielka and baines for their insight. One quick signing will be martinez's no2 graeme jones.

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22 Jun 2013 01:50:26
Nacer Chadli's agent flew into London to meet with BK tonight, whether this means he's coming to us or not I don't know.

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His agent said he wants a move to the premier league would be a great signing but I think it will be hard to deal with twente after the failed fer transfer

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Personally would like chadli, not sure on leroy fer, he was very disappointing for holland u21s, was very rodwell like in his passing but made good forward runs but again rarely

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Spurs are intrested 2

1878blue

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I fail to see how fair was disappointing in the u21`s he got on the score sheet and looked athletic and comfortable on the ball. Importantly after completing the season in Holland with no problems then an tournament he has proved his fitness.

I would add him to the squad in a heartbeat with no requisite for anyone to leave. competition for places is needed.

I don't know much about Chadi though what type of player is he?

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21 Jun 2013 23:49:27
Everton are set to complete the signing of Yassine Chikhaoui from FC Zurich, This is all over the news in Tunisia and should be confirmed by tomorrow if the reports are correct.

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Tricky player with a lot of skill, but don't think he's good enough for the prem.

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Cant find any videos of him or any links to the guy, anyone tell me what he's like? where he plays? any stats etc?

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22 Jun 2013 16:21:18
A video showing Chikhaoui

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2El-grkslY

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