Everton Rumours Archive October 22 2017

 

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22 Oct 2017 23:36:40
Not posted here fir a long time (Lukaku deal I think) as I've not had anything concrete.
Been informed this evening Koeman has gone.
Rhino in charge for the next few.

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23 Oct 2017 00:57:43
No joy here, as I am mainly concerned with our place at the table. RK looked good on paper, but sometimes it just does not work out. Once you've lost the office staff (or team) , no manager (however talented) can be successful.

Of course managers in any line of work are judged by results.

I have no earthly idea who would take the job, but hopefully a fresh start will do the team good. Perhaps Ross will stay.

As an aside, without two unpopular players, we would have less goals than Palace.

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23 Oct 2017 17:21:00
Koeman did not look good on paper. His track record for the vast majority of his career was woeful.

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22 Oct 2017 18:53:22
Do any of the eds know know who it was exactly that wanted Ronald koeman in the first place which member of the board or was it a joint thing . not having a go at them I was just curious.

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{Ed025's Note - he was highly sought after at the time skylark and even barca were looking at him mate, i think that may have changed recently though..

23 Oct 2017 14:00:14
Goal.com reporting koeman sacked.

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22 Oct 2017 22:18:38
So many long posts so I'll keep it short. Koeman is finished. Fans and players have no respect for whatever it is he's trying to achieve.
It's untenable now so let's just wait. He will not be our long term solution we all hoped he would be.

What we do have is a lot of half decent young players and older players who can and should be performing better. Let's do a Leicester, give it to a Unsworth as a stop gap, if it works then let him stay on until it doesn't. Staying up is now our main priority.

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22 Oct 2017 19:40:41
ANy insight from inside the club regarding Koeman? can't imagine they're happy.

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22 Oct 2017 20:38:28
I might be wrong but I am under the belief that RK was the choice of Morishi. I also believe Morishi does not spend a lot of time at the club but leaves the day to day running of it to BK and co. Was RK the choice of BK too? I just wonder how much influence BK might be having over staff and players which is having a negative effect on what RK is trying to do. He has done a good job but I would now like to see BK and co go. If RK is to go I would prefer he went because of his own demise rather than skullduggery giving our club a bad image for any new potential manager.

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22 Oct 2017 21:44:24
I think people are getting carried away with blaming BK, every time something goes wrong he seems to take the flak. On occasions it's warranted but not in this current predicament, this is of RK's making. Bad tactics, bad team selection, bad everything! Bill hasn't had a history of interfering with staff or players so I couldn't see why he would start now. If he did then I doubt Barkley would be on his way out. RK is Moshiri's man, he wanted him so bad he threw shed loads of cash his way.

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22 Oct 2017 02:19:46
David Moyes is being lined up for a sensational return to Everton as the pressure increases on under-fire manager Ronald Koeman.

source is something you look at to see yourself :)

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22 Oct 2017 07:04:28
You must have very shiny ones because that's got to be bollocks, would rather have Martinez back then him.

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22 Oct 2017 08:49:46
I can't see it happening - but if it did, then that's my season ticket shredded.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont blame you jcl..

22 Oct 2017 08:56:54
I couldn't do it ed. Three reasons, don't believe in going backwards. and it really is a backwards move. Secondly, he does not have the ability to move the club forward, and third, and most important of all, the man's deceitful imo.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that mate..

22 Oct 2017 09:32:20
He is Bills yes man, so it could happen, but I hope not, aaaaa.

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{Ed025's Note - i have always championed bill kenwright stig, but if this were to happen i would wash my hands of him mate..

22 Oct 2017 09:51:02
Ed mate, Bill is what's wrong at our club, he sold out so should go.

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{Ed025's Note - he saved our club at one point stig and i wont forget that mate..

22 Oct 2017 10:11:01
Yes Ed you are right, but the lads who go to the game and spend there last of there money its the same.

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22 Oct 2017 11:00:07
Bill has his flaws, but I would not slag him off. even when I disagree with some of his previous actions. for reason ed25 points out. and regardless of his theatrics etc. he is an Everton fan through and through (alright he has made a few quid in the process) . However, if he appoints Moyes again, I'll simply be done with football.

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22 Oct 2017 10:34:05
Ed25 And the fact that Bill saved our Club is always in my mind, but that should not exclude criticism of him since. I firmly believe that he and Elstone are the problem at Everton and while they remain the Club just cannot genuinely progress and move forward. For me they both should go (Bill given an Honoury non-executive position for what he did for this Club) .

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{Ed025's Note - i would certainly have that last bit dunc, his health is not great these days so a stand named in his honour and maybe a statue at the new ground would be a testament to his service to the club mate..

22 Oct 2017 12:52:48
a stand named in his honour? as long as he paid for the stand, lol.

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{Ed025's Note - now thats just being mean stig.. :)

22 Oct 2017 14:35:42
To be fair moyes done well with absolutely no money to spend and had to sell top players. He no, s this club inside out so he could do well with money behind him now I'm not saying I want him but just pointing out the facts I would much rather have unsworth and big dunc till end of season then if it goes well then appoint them on a permanent.

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22 Oct 2017 15:15:18
And at Man united? Moyes spent a fair amount of dosh, and every year convinced us all we were luck to finish mid table. whilst he was being paid about£5m a year. I think at one stage 3rd highest paid manager. He got money at man u and failed, failed in Spain and failed at Sunderland. if he steps a foot inside that ground it will be a sad day.

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22 Oct 2017 15:42:35
If Moyes comes back then I give up. Why bring back a manager who left and failed at 3 other clubs (including getting a club relegated) .

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22 Oct 2017 18:14:18
Moyes isn't the answer. He did a great job for a few years with no money while telling everyone every season that we were punching above our weight. Since then he's become completely deluded about his own ability whilst we've got a billionaire majority shareholder who has sunk so much money into the club that he's got every right to expect CL within three years with decent domestic and European cup runs along the way.

Silva, Wagner or the guy from Shakhtar for me. Problem is they'd only be coming to us for money, because it certainly wouldn't be for football reasons based on the last few weeks.

Re Kenwright, we'd have been lower leagues if not bust without his intervention. I personally think he wanted to stay involved until Moshiri had proved he had the best interests of the club at heart. We all owe Kenwright a huge debt or gratitude and I think he's earned the right to choose when he exits. Stand in his name is definitely deserved. We could get Burger King to fund it - the BK End. Oh, hang on.

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