Everton Rumours Archive July 25 2017

 

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25 Jul 2017 23:00:41
I see chelsea are considering an offer for Tom Davies, well, using the swansea calculation method, that will be 1000m, and not a penney less.

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25 Jul 2017 23:12:37
Love it JCW100.

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26 Jul 2017 00:16:16
How u work that out. is Tom Davies an international player with proven premiership experience and with stats over a long period to back that up or is he a young professional trying to break into the first team. Confused.

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26 Jul 2017 06:58:55
I think it was a joke Rich.

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26 Jul 2017 08:34:38
he is the england captain u-19 and didn't they just win something?

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26 Jul 2017 11:42:57
They did Floats but he didn't play in that. Given special leave to go on holiday, seeing as he'd played most of the season for us.

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25 Jul 2017 19:25:49
Ed0025 in another post you mentioned about gylfi not stopping us from signing another class striker. You mentioned about today? . Just a question but are efc after kevin gameiro. rumour has it he's in liverpool.

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{Ed025's Note - nothing on gameiro fanatic im afraid, i dont think athletico would let him go in this window either mate..

25 Jul 2017 11:49:22
Just read a story claiming Chelsea want Tom Davies what to you think the likelyhood of this happening?

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25 Jul 2017 12:02:13
Better going for Neymars buy out as would be cheaper option mate.

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25 Jul 2017 13:45:21
there is no way chelsea are after tom for this season if this is true they see him as a player for the future his career would go backwards if he left us now. imo he is in a progressive side his ambition has to be get in the first team and get a regular starting birth then go from there onwards and upwards so he is exactly where he needs to be. altho there is the story that stoke will pay 25 mill for the ox i guess this means he has said no to chelsea so they maybe after another english player who knows. what a joke the ox 25 gylfi 50 i know who i would rather buy.

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25 Jul 2017 13:56:43
I' bet there are lots of clubs who would "want" several of our players - just as there are other clubs' players we "want". It has always been so. The difference these days is that we have money to keep our best players and we can afford to recruit quality players.

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25 Jul 2017 15:04:52
Im curious floats I could be wrong but by that post your claiming you'd rather have Ox over Sig. this is a and of opinions mate, just wondering why gives u that conclusion u would take the ox over GS. Regarding assists goals minutes played injuries etc.

Or have I took your post the wrong way haha.

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25 Jul 2017 15:37:12
your a little off on the queen's their mate, but if i understand you then an obvious answer is he is an all round better player in my opinion anything i post is my opinion unless i state it as a fact. i am in my fifties and probs move in different circles to you but if ox goes to stoke that would be a sin imo why are we not after such a well rounded mid player when we are willing to pay so much for a player who's statistics say he is quite one dimensional. futher more people seem to have forgotten that gylfi has had a chance to be in atop 4 team and wasn't good enough for poch' but he is good enough for efc fans that can't see past what they want. i am a born and bred efc fan and in no way is sigurdsson better than the ox who can play anywhere in the middle and if your asking me is gylfi worth this kind of investment in my opinion no he isn't but ox is because he is versatile pacey tricky and gets back and defends. so many efc fans are so prepared to over look gylfi's short comings to get him which we obviously will let's revisit this at the end of the season see who is right and who is wrong.

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25 Jul 2017 16:03:12
id have the ox but not at the expense of gylfi he stat our way beyond the ox, the ox has not move on in the last few year gylfi is one of the best attack midfield in the league.

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25 Jul 2017 16:46:35
Don't understand the point that Gylfi couldn't make it in a top 4 team when the comparison is Oxlaid chamberlain who can't get regular football in a top six team. I have seen plenty of Gylfi over the past few seasons and he is far from one dimensional. He has played all across the middle and up top. No surprise that he covered so much ground last season.

I agree the fee is shocking. But that's a money matter that I'm not concerned about as there are people employed by the club to make that judgement. I think he's a very good player who will contribute to goals, assists and will offer us a real threat from dead ball situations.

If oxlaid chamberlain was on the pitch enough to compare with those stats then we could drill down deeper to compare, but he wasn't so we'll never know.

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25 Jul 2017 17:04:28
Floats. the way you keep saying minus sigurdsson deadballs his stats aren't the best. I think your missing the fact that deadballs are a massive part of a game of football and it would be of great benifit to Everton to have someone so good at deadballs.

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25 Jul 2017 17:38:11
Isn't baines top notch at dead balls.

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25 Jul 2017 18:20:21
David Beckham say no more.

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25 Jul 2017 21:58:42
Floats I know football is a game of opinion, but you need a reality check. Sigs is far better than the overrated OX! . Sigs had carried the Swans for a number of seasons and is far more creative than OX. I remember Chelsea fans not rating Lampard and we know how that turned out.

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25 Jul 2017 22:20:19
Completely agree floats it's a game of opinion an wasn't being patronising in any way I was curious on your opinion to why ox would be a better player than sig.

In my opinion Ox is a very exciting player but I don't really know his position an I don't think he does either is he a CM or a winger I'm not sure

But again "in my opinion" he is no where near the quality of GS. He's quick tricky like u say but for me not in the same league of individual quality of GS.

Also I don't think any ones age has much to do with comparing two modern day era players.

Was just after a general insight to see if u had good points that I hadn't thought of to why Ox would be a better choice than Sig.

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25 Jul 2017 23:28:21
Couldn't be bothered even reading that. SIG ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.

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25 Jul 2017 11:39:10
I was just wondering if there is any update on Lewis Gibson (young CB from Newc) and Joshua Zirkzee? I heard bids accepted and confirmed but nothing else? Also anyone else linked recently?

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24 Jul 2017 10:37:34
Hi Ed. what percentage do you think Sigi will end up a Blue.

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{Ed025's Note - 100% rich, it may not be this window but i believe there is a very good chance it will mate..

25 Jul 2017 07:55:39
47.5 million with add ons Ed, done by Friday mate, its peanuts to the rich boys on Merseyside now mate and to be honest he will improve us massively so i'm not arsed how much he costs.

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{Ed025's Note - i think he will really improve us degs and if we get another forward that would be great for me mate..

25 Jul 2017 08:13:29
Giroud would be icing on cake Ed.

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{Ed025's Note - very much so for me degs mate..

25 Jul 2017 09:53:56
Will be completed before Friday, if he is not paraded at Goodison before the Europa league game, I will eat my hat, full house for the game, cannot see Everton missing out on the marque number one target not being at Goodison this Thursday.

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25 Jul 2017 10:39:47
I will share the hat with you Baz, total confidence in this one completed before the game.

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25 Jul 2017 10:41:27
I wouldn't be surprised if the right bid came in today. £45 + the rest needed in add on. I think that last bid was just to see if there was any chance of a meeting half way. Now we know the Swans are playing hard ball I think we will settle this week and as is said perhaps parading him at half time in front of a full house this Thursday.

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25 Jul 2017 13:28:12
Hi Ed25 mentioning Giroud, do you think there is much happening there?
With the striker search I know we dropped interest in Dembele however with the rumours circling that Celtic would accept around £20m for him would we look to come back in?

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24 Jul 2017 23:48:38
Swansea have now rejected 45m offer, it really is time to tell them to p. off.
Even in todays over heated market, 50m is mad, time to walk away.
Go back when they have been relegated.

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25 Jul 2017 00:54:01
yep, agree.
we have offered 40 million, take it or leave it. i think he would push for a move to us then.

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25 Jul 2017 01:53:34
What a silly attitude to have! . When Man u or Chelsea were chasing Lukaku would have accepted the going rate or squeeze the buying club who wanted for your prize player. Don't forget Swansea know we have 75 mil sitting in the savings account.

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25 Jul 2017 07:30:19
Might be the case but Manu have much deeper pockets and 50 Mil is too much IMO.

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25 Jul 2017 07:32:13
ha ha walk away we will offer 45 million with 5 million add ons and they will prob accept it can't understand people saying walk away he isn't worth it if walker cost 55 million sigs is definitely worth 50 million prices are out of control.

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25 Jul 2017 07:55:39
I shouldn't complain but. Didn't we ask £100m for Rom and accepted £75m? My own opinion, Gylfi would probably be the best player that we could buy out of all that we have done already. Let Swansea say, "we stuck to our guns before we sold him". Ultimately, we will have the player that we want and more importantly, need.

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25 Jul 2017 09:15:15
When clubs are paying £50m for full backs is it really that much out of sink with the crazy market that is the premier league? He is a top performing midfielder with some of the best stats around, I can understand why Swansea are standing firm, no different than we did with Lukaku or stones or are currently doing with Barkley.!

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25 Jul 2017 09:22:10
Offer 35 plus Williams. Then we got 15 ish to get us a better cb too.

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25 Jul 2017 11:59:20
What I don't understand is why we don't just play Rooney in gilfi position and then spend the money on a top striker, Rooney will bag 10 goals easy a season and in my opinion is a lot better player, just seems we have money and just blowing it on inflated prices when we don't really need to, he's good and would be glad to have him, but at 25 million less than lukaku I can't really say that's good business, 25 million yes, we need some one who is going to get us 20 goals a season, sandro is untested so can't guaranty anything with him yet.

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25 Jul 2017 13:16:08
spot on BH.

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25 Jul 2017 22:48:58
kinda bizarre that people liken lukaku and lampard to gylfi this is way over-flattering for the icelander (? ) don't think we are being too sensible here and it is starting to look like we have no plan b.

i agree with the guy who said move on buy a striker. we are going all out to buy a dead ball specialist people who say he is more than this i would be happy for you to post the evidence of it on here. and i don't mean your personal opinion i mean evidence of him being more than this.

when we don't have a target man for him to aim at makes no sense any more to me this pursuit if swans don't want to sell move on. surely we can get better value elsewhere i mean we could tell barkley to stay another year and see out his contract then we wouldn't need gylfi this year anyway if we end our interest in him officially then swans will probs approach us to take him cause one thing for sure he will not be happy in s/ wales from now on.

seems to be working for our neighbours across the park with VVD. he is demanding the right to leave as would gylfi if we end our interest i am sure. we seem desperate to sign the player i haven't seen this kind of pig-headed stupidity since the days of gordon lee.

it is intriguing to me tho who koeman and co have in mind for sigurdsson to target cause if they don't have someone lined up they need their heads testing and i am a fan of gylfi and would like us to get him but not at any cost right now swans have time on their side and can play with us so as gylfi is not a settled efc player when the season starts if we tell them sod off they will come crawling back eventually cause they cannot keep the player now imo.

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25 Jul 2017 00:06:53
One thing I have noticed recently is that lukaku (this summer) and Suarez (2014) both cost around 75 million.
I know it's all relative and costs mean nothing but I would prefer Suarez every day to lukaku.

Btw hope we sort sigurdsson and a tall striker with maybe couple squad players coming in to assist the youngsters.

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25 Jul 2017 07:50:15
Suarez would be 150 million now mate.

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24 Jul 2017 23:54:14
Swans stated they want 50. Already said no to 40, so why go cheap with 5 with add ons. Just offer 45 with 5 ad ons and we will get our no1 target. To answer other questions, Yes he is worth it! A top draw scoring midfielder, I do recall Chelsea fans asking the same of Lampard.

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25 Jul 2017 00:38:53
Totally agree Rich. I placed a comment on here yesterday saying the same. I greatly appreciate that it is Mr Moshiri's money, not mine. but City have just spent £50m TWICE on Full Backs! Sigurdsson is a goalscoring, very creative, attacking International Midfielder with a wealth of Premier League experience, so in my opinion He would be worth every penny of £50m. Get the deal done please Mr Moshiri to help complete Koeman's plan for the future and then move on to Giroud. maybe?

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25 Jul 2017 01:54:32
Finally somebody with some sense! Just get the deal sorted thus giving the team more time to bond.

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25 Jul 2017 06:23:11
clearly statistics mean nothing over your personal opinions rich/ golden if you take out gylfi's dead ball statistcs he scored 5 goals and had 3 assists last season and this is what you say is worth 50 mill. you know i could be wrong there it could be 3 goals and 5 assists last season been a couple of weeks since i last checked his stats. pep has a plan for those fullbacks he is planning to counter l/ pool and spurs high tempo game to win the prem well that's his idea we have a plan to push for top 4 and and maybe make a cup final maybe next year more likely to be 3 we would have a similar aim but the 2 things cannot be relevant in anyway you get big prize money for winning prem you are deluded if you think gylfi and or giroud are the missing pieces for a title winning team and so therefore by defitintion he is not worth the money the kids we have already at the club could contribute 5 goals and 3 assists. glad i don't have to send you the shop for my daily apple.

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25 Jul 2017 08:36:39
What logical reason can you take his dead ball statistics out of the equation?

Its part of the game and its a rare commodity, surely that improves his worth, rather than decreases it, like you are trying to.

Need to give your head a wobble.

"Arr na, think we will pass on him, he bags to many fks an pens. "

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25 Jul 2017 12:08:26
because as of yet we have no one for him to aim his dead ball skill at. as of yet, giroud has options and doesn't sound impressed by efc' initial affections maybe that could change but there is nothing other than wishful thinking that says he will move from the gunners to the toffees he is wanted in france and germany. altho if this CSL story that is floating around is to be believed then their could be players from china available (they haven't paid their foreign players and stand to be kicked out of the league if they don't) there is a lot of good players in china atm that would probs want to get out of there. it doesn't bode well for the new season when you put all your eggs in one basket all the players we were linked with king, giroud gray, d. gray seem to have faded while we focus solely on gylfi. with no target man. so atm take out his dead ball skill cause he has nothing to aim at altho thinking about it if he is as good as his stats say he could probs cross a ball for the smallest person to head i guess. then again his assists where mostly to 6'4 llorente reknown for his heading.

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25 Jul 2017 13:05:04
Firstly he scored a number of direct free kicks that would be worth a good few points a season and secondly we've got Williams, Jags and Keane who are quality with their heads from set pieces.

We're three weeks into the window and have already spent £90m - pretty sure we've barely spent that in the last three years combined. Some people are never happy.

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25 Jul 2017 14:21:12
windsor by a number of goals you mean less than five which is the total number of goals he score when you take out the penaltys he scored last season, yeh! i could never be happy with players going for such a high sum when there is lots of similar players out there like the ox say who are available for half the money we need other players not just a gylfi why we are so focused on him i will never know.

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25 Jul 2017 20:21:42
Ox is a quality player as well and agree he's a bargain at £25m by comparison, but Koeman obviously has plans in mind in terms of shape and playing style that he feels Sigurdsson would fit better in to.

I'm not obsessed by any one player but Koeman knows better than any of us what tactics and squad will be able to compete in all competitions, so I'll leave it to him to decide the best additions.

That said, let's get both.

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