Everton Rumours Archive January 04 2012

04 Jan 2012 22:21:56
Why so much negativity? You need all need to save your energy until Saturday 5pm. {Ed025's Note - so you want positivity?...give david his p45

Well said Ed another person blind folded and probably a two game a season guy!

Ed 025 please you know thats not the answer is hand was forced tonite through injuries, he never had the chance to make a change to improve the game as such, then landon and dennis had to play the full 90 and they looked knackered, the shape got all messed up and bolton got lucky because of that, wait til ross gets a hatrick saturday, dont lose the faith ed come on a massive win in the cup saturday and we will all be singing from the same royal blue hymn sheet again!! We are blues not whinge bag reds COYB!! {Ed025's Note - but it gets tiresome saying that every week!....these are professional footballers ffs! mostly internationals...they are not bad players, so you have to look elsewhere for the reason behind this debacle...and david is where the buck stops!..

Ed can u name managers that can
Do any fink with this side we have got we have nothing going forward and without money motes hands are tied we lack a centre forward and a creative midfielder every 1 going on about Barkley what happens when he comes straight into squad and it don't work use will all be on motes case again at end of day were al blues an all frustrated but motes isn't the problem it's kenwright we want 442 it didn't work wand look use all if it did work use would be praising motes get behind the team instead of moaning cos moan all use like nothing going 2 change till kenwrights gone and that is problem {Ed025's Note - moyes..or motes?...as you like to call him, is the reason 4-4-2 does not work!...we have far superior players than the likes of norwich and swansea, yet they play attractive football and get results!....

Ive always been a fan of Moyes but his relentless loyalty to Neville, Cahill & Saha coulped with such negative tactics means I would no longer be sad to see him leave...Get me Brendan Rogers any day of the week....whos with me??

The Shadow {Ed025's Note - not my no1 choice mate...but could not be any worse!..

Fck sake ed thats one bad result following a decent spell, besides who else could we have? Seeing as we haven't a penny to rub together I doubt we could pay any sort of compo fee for anyone useful, on a different note Walter Smith is without a club ; ) {Ed025's Note - come off it mate!...we could all see the writing on the wall, we have been poor all season..in my book we should aspire to better than that, do the words NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM mean nothing to you!..

Never been a Moyes fan myself, just a younger version of Walter Smith. What we need is a manager with foresight and vision a change of philosophy if you like...it can be done, and it needs to be done as im fed up of teams like Norwich, Swansea and Wigan being able to pass a ball while we can't

Moyes out/Kenwright out {Ed025's Note - all good points mate...you wont get any arguments from me!

Here we go again. Explain to why tonight is David Moyes' fault, when are the players going to take some responsibility?
Did Moyes tell everyone to switch off for the 2nd goal and stand and watch as Gary Cahill scored.
Moyes can't win. He plays 4 4 2 and we lose and people complain, and yet that is what everyone wanted.
If we didn't have injuries do you think he would play Heitinga and Neville in center of midfield no he wouldn't it would be Fellani and Rodwell with Ossie out wide, or Fellaini and Ossie with Drenthe out wide, but at the moment that is all we have so we are stuck with them.
To want Moyes out is just plain stupid! {Ed025's Note - its not just about tonight!...we have been poor all season, our team is full of internationals who are not producing the goods!...so who do you blame?

On a seperate point, if your'e the "peoples club" how come you never fill your ground. Ever . Not even at xmas. Or kids for a quid. Surely a city with 1Million people in, of whom most support Everton(apparently) you might hope to fill it occassionally, but apparently not, maybe your'e all full of s**t and the city is really red, as you know it is.

If you look around you will see plenty of empty seats at all prem grounds even at we have a 23 year waiting list anfield where you can now buy match day tickets get a grip and look at the money situation in the country at the moment people have to save and get off our page {Ed025's Note - thats true mate..he is just trying to wallow in our misery..is that what you have come down to reds?....shame on you!

Get a grip every game every season supporter i am and no i dont want to change the manager we are only a striker away from being up there a good striker scores goals which get the rest of the team playing and the crowd buzzing problem is we dont have one {Ed025's Note - we do need a striker as a matter of urgency!..but there are more problems than that, we look devoid of ideas, and lacking heart and motivation...we still have a very good squad, but need better leadership IMO,,

I think you'll find when the ash cloud prevented travelling that the sh!te struggled to half fill their ground - clear evidence that there are less than 20,000 matchgoing reds in the city.

Ive watched every game so far this season the quality is very poor below our standard all we need is a striker saha is missing shots that even torres could score he is too old now Anichebe won't do anything different 4 us or that straculursi? one striker pliz would do just someone that can hit the ball on target it's getting embarrising to watch second from last on match of the day ! Nil satis Nisi optimum ye right

Hey redshi?e firstly go get a life and go on your own forums you sad southern blurt

Next I always listen to Talksport and whenever an everton fan phones in they are always a scouse accent or around that area, whenevr a red phones in they are always a southerner, honestly have a listen its comical

Great big southern glory hunting tossers

degsybluenose

Wish we had marty the messiah but hes up the road with mackems

Everyone forgets what moyes has done on a shoestring budget, one bad result after a good spell and people want him out. No other manager could do what he's done

04 Jan 2012 21:02:21
i know drenthes ill but does anyone know were vellios is?

Hes injured my sister sat in front of him at the Swansea game and people were asking him why hes out he said injury, only a couple of weeks though
Toffeeboy

04 Jan 2012 20:50:47
Good news: Donovan
Bad news: Counter__Attack deleted his Twitter, once again the blues have been fooled...



JM

No, just the gullible ones

04 Jan 2012 19:55:51
Well good news = Donovan, saha, and stracqaulursi playing
bad news = the rest 6 defenders playing
please tell moyes we are playing bolton at home andy

04 Jan 2012 13:40:24
Does any one know the budget moyes has got to work with this january? i think its key we try and keep hold of rodwell because it then gives moyes the chance to bring in some mediocre replacement. I completely disagree with loans, we cant build a team with loan deals, drenthe should be one of our main targets this transfer window, adds a new dimension to our game. if we keep drenthe, rodwell, felliani, baines, we've got a very good, top 6 midfield. but another change which is key, we need to support our striker 4,4,2,. saha/ cahill/ vellios/anicebe are not knocking up a tally of goals every season and with saha and cahill being in the last chapter of their game, i know its been said before, we need a goal scorer, bobby zamora, even donovan in the next few months will hopefully support and sit behind a striker. I think with a good striker, keeping drenthe and rodwell, obvcourse barkley ( who could in future sit in a supporting attacking role) playing 4,4,2 ( our back 4 is strong, our midfield too) we'll bne able tp get top 7 untill this "investment comes along", i think the next 5 years at this club we'll see a lot change.

I dont think he has a bean if he sells billy for 5-6 mil prob get 2 mil if were lucky {Ed025's Note - sounds right..

Kenwrights theatre bizzness just made 2 mill profit,so say 2 mill 1p........g

I know I'm probably talking utter s**te here to my fellow evertonians, but is it just me that thinks billy could be the player who sits behind the striker? I know we have other 'potential' but I think he coukd be a short term answer whilst we are skint. He's got an excellent left foot as he has proved against wolves, united, Birmingham abd portsmouth and maybe a few more

Thats the position he plays for russia I think

I recon a serious £3,500,000

I've always thought Billy should be given a chance behind the striker and I'm quite dissapointed that he will probably be sold during this transfer window. We all know the potential he had and still has and it's a shame he's never been able to live up to the expectations. On the other hand, I believe he's not done himself any favours by the lack of work rate from him during games. Maybe playing out of his usual position could be a potential reason for his lack of focus but never the less until he is used in his preferred position for a decent run of games I believe the option to sell him is not the best way forward for our club.. After all how much of the potential funds are we actually going to receive? With an goal drought and out of form Cahill I cannot understand why Moyes has not tried this. We all know Moyes is stubborn and fails to adapt to changing environments at times but I believe it's unnacceptable to show favouritism within team selections when we are playing the most negative football I have ever seen in my time of watching our beloved club. I'm all for Moyes, he's been our saviour at most times but this is a stumbling block in which he needs to guide us through and so far we have not even cleared the first hurdle.

ToffeeBoyJack.

We aint got any dosh mate, maybe a loan signing or 2 or even a free transfer

04 Jan 2012 09:08:36
Daily Mail today saying were after Darren Gibson from Man United. Just like I said about 5 days ago on here and got completely shot down ! Up here for thinking, down there for dancing. Also heard were VERY CLOSE to announcing a loan deal, but dont know who. Might be at the game tonight so hopefully well see then. D

United have previously been heavily linked to Rodwell and more recently Barkley, couldn't agree a fee for Barkley in August. Does anyone think Barkley could leave for OT this January? Perhaps even loaned back to Everton until the summer, similar to the Smalling signing?

Sydney! {Ed025's Note - i hope not syd...i think utd are trying to bully us into selling our talent!...you are playing on our misfortune and are taking advantage of our financial situation!...i suppose you think you can take our stars, and then palm us off with your dross, we dont want the likes of gibson, anderson, carrick, or the terrible twins!, we are trying to build something here, and to lose our top stars would be a real kick in the teeth for the supporters...so its no thanks!..please look elsewhere..

Personal opinion: Gibson is s**t! won't get into our side! {Ed025's Note - im with you on that.

Oh My God! The Daily Mail reported it, so it MUST be true, I mean they never report anything that isnt true.

'Ed025'

I am not like most United fans who believe we can just take your players, but the fact remains that Ross is a player SAF wants and Everton will have a valuation for him. Any idea what the valuation is? And what United offered in August?

Sydney! {Ed025's Note - i know you are a true utd fan syd, but the fact is..we dont want to sell him!, when you enquired about him, you were told he was not for sale...this is still the case!, but with our owners you never know..the gap between the have,s and have not,s is growing wider, and its very frustrating being in the latter group, if we start selling our better players, then its a very slippery slope, so i hope you realise my reluctance to enter into speculation..

Is this the same daily mail that said we were having a fire sale as gave Mustaffi away on a free? Why would we sell Barkley to Man Utd then loan him back? he doesn't get a game now.

Gibson is 100% crap, must never be allowed to wear a blue shirt, one of they worst player have ever seen play in prem leg.

Sir Alex trying to shaft the blues again by offering us shxt for our crown jewels. Grow a pair of balls Bill and tell him to fxck off. (Wavertree Blue) {Ed025's Note - that goes for all of us wavo..