28 Jun 2015 13:25:40
Ed do you think we will have to sell any of are best players this year for non footballing reasons?
{Ed025's Note - no Am8, we do actually have money, its getting the buggers to spend it thats the hard bit mate..
28 Jun 2015 16:44:59
with coleman supporting utd when younger do you expect him to leave
{Ed025's Note - if he does go bretto...it will be for the cold hard cash mate..after all he only gets £4m a year from us..its a wonder how he makes ends meet..
28 Jun 2015 17:28:27
Coleman wore a UTD shirt in a pic, in IRELAND. It does not mean he supports them, my cousin has pictures of his son in a Leeds 2001-02 shirt and he is Irish, yet supports Liverpool. Coleman has been poor all last season.
28 Jun 2015 17:37:00
Is it not more likely he would go to get champions league football and the chance of trophies? You couldn't really blame him for wanting to push himself in bigger games surely?
28 Jun 2015 18:28:05
to be fair I could see a southampton situation happening with rom kevin and seamus all leaving
28 Jun 2015 21:10:31
sorry Swan Coleman has not been poor all season
28 Jun 2015 21:44:15
Yes I could actually. The main issue being the same one your fans use for De Gea going to Real. Your excuse is personally begging him 'don't go there David, their fans will nor appreciate you and will be on your back instantly'. Well yeah, it would be the same with Coleman. Because his name is not Colemaninho Dos Santos JR, you're fans, like McCarthy will assume he is terrible. Also, if UTD are such a certainty for trophies and success in the Champions League, it is a wonder why De Gea wants to leave. You could use the excuse as to be with his familiy. But when we use the excuse of Colemans mates being here and him being appreciated, you call that, 'sad' and 'pathetic'. Oh the irony, oh the irony. The reality is if Coleman wants to leave (which I doubt) then he is more than welcome too. Just as long as he doesn't do a Davey Moyes which again I doubt. What I don't get is the 'oh he wants to test himself against the best and win stuff' when, if you don't know mate, he is still an Everton player. Until he joins UTD and holds up that shirt. I don't think your fans can really decide what it is he is leaving for or why and what is best. When it is a done deal then by all means, be happy, but please do not start all the rubbish about what he wants. I expect him to stay and if not, good luck to him. He very may well do a De Gea and leave to win trophies but hang on a minute, De Gea has not gone yet (like Coleman) so why is Coleman leaving for trophies but De Gea is leaving for money or whatever. Incredible.
29 Jun 2015 01:38:48
Swan,
That was a very interesting rant mate, think you need to calm down, Real Madrid are the biggest club in the world, the play in de gea's home town and that's where his partner lives, they are going to be challenging for trophies so it is not a step down for him in any way and no united fans would blame de gea for leaving, he's done his time for us.
You know who a lot of united fans think is the best player ever to play for the club, not ronaldo or anyone with a fancy name but george best, irish lad who all united fans appreciated and thought was great. You are thinking of maybe chelsea when you are talking about only appreciating foreign players, giggs, scholes, Neville, beckham, not a brazilian name amongst them but heroes at Old Trafford. So your point isn't really valid.
There is no 'guarantee' that he would sign for united and get success, but you must admit yourself if he signed for united there would be a better chance of him winning trophies, that's not saying anything that people don't know is true, check with the bookmakers, there is a good chance he would play champions league football for the majority of his time with us and top players want to push themselves in that competition.
I'm not saying for a second we are signing coleman, I've no idea myself whether he wants to come to us, but if he did you would struggle to argue with the points I've just made I think.
29 Jun 2015 02:29:59
Don't know why fans get so hung up on players maybe (because the press says) leaving us, for the most part no players have really forced themselves out of everton over the last ten years but as much as it may erm some poeple were are not a big club anymore, plain and simple money talks.
We may have a solid history but it counts for nothing the players of today won't remember us winning anything of any note and let's face 1 fa cup in 25 years and no champions league at all we're not a big club and can't offer big wages, I doubt uefa asked Man City to see there history when they made the champions league a few years ago but now there futures been sorted which is all that matters. Poeple leave better teams than us for different clubs it's the reality of the game.
29 Jun 2015 08:17:48
Joleon Lescott only player I can think of that has mikedblue?
29 Jun 2015 09:10:55
Mike,
You are right mate and you should be proud of the little family that you have at Everton, players seem to be extremely happy playing for you and not many want to leave, it is good to see and one of the reasons why I respect Everton a lot.
If a player did want to leave it would be for the reasons I mentioned (CL football / chance of trophies) which you can't really blame a player for wanting in his career.
29 Jun 2015 16:26:52
At the end of the day, Coleman is only going to leave if the club want him to. The club will only want to if he asks to leave and united offer us a fair amount (janusaj on loan plus at least 20 if not 25 million). We are in a good position as we don't need to sell him.
29 Jun 2015 17:40:21
GDS2. Don't be so deluded. Players move for money and they use the CL as an excuse for this. That's all they are interested in MONEY.
{Ed025's Note - no argument from me woburn mate..
29 Jun 2015 17:40:50
GDS2,Pray tell me how a club, any club, is supposed to progress by allowing it's players to leave to play C.L. football, when that's exactly what all clubs and I mean all EPL clubs aspire to? I honestly doubt whether Everton will do business with MU other than try to borrow Zanuzaj or Wilson. The chances of anyone getting Coleman I would think are zero, the same goes for Stones.
29 Jun 2015 19:06:22
Mike,
The bookies think differently mate.
I agree with you but if you aren't going to be winning trophies in the near future then players have a decision to make.
Woburn,
If it makes you happy then yes all players are money grabbers and that's all they are bothered about. I'm sure some of them are, but others will be interested in playing for the top teams and leaving a legacy by winning trophies. If coleman is a money grabber I've no idea I don't know him personally, but in life if someone offers to double your wages and offered you the chance of success you would snap their hand off and you would be silly not to.
{Ed025's Note - thats a fair point GDS..
29 Jun 2015 22:26:40
Apart from the fact you can't guarantee them success. Your actually going to lose your best player. A player who saved you 10-12 points last season. But hey keep spending, you can only ut 11 on the pitch at one time, and you ain't got the best 11 mate.
29 Jun 2015 23:26:52
Woburn,
It is impossible to have a discussion when all you do is reply with bitter comments trying to put united down, I haven't done that about your club so don't do it about mine, then we can have a sensible discussion.
30 Jun 2015 12:54:38
how is it bitter?. take a look in the mirror mate. if you think the truth is bitter then why are you on here? if all you want us to do is go 'GGMU (whatever that means)', 'love Utd me' 'Utd are the best, proper hate Everton, i'm a Utd fan now' then what is bitter about what he said?. if Woburn saying the truth is bitter, what about your 'truth' that Coleman would be better off at Utd? that is not bitter? just the honest truth from the bottom of your heart?.
01 Jul 2015 08:27:33
Oh my god you are an odd man swan, I never said any of them things, you are utterly deluded.