30 Aug 2016 12:41:12
Just felt like popping on here to say that I'm loving all of the positivity on here at the moment. I think that Moshiri has moved the club on more in 6 months than we have moved in my lifetime. He's even achieved the impossible feat of making Degsy happy!
To be fair, I've always been the first one to criticise Degsy for his posts, so credit where credit's due Degs I've really enjoyed your recent posts. I like the way you come at things from a different angle, and your posts are really interesting without all of the negativity. I think you've only mentioned Moyes once as well ;)
Providing we get a striker I think we can make do with what we have until January at least.
Do any of the Eds know of any other names linked to us apart from ones we have heard of already? (e. g. Bony and Gabbiadini etc)
{Ed002's Note - I think there will be a lot of effort to find a new home for Oumar Niasse and Begovic can be forgotten.}
30 Aug 2016 13:01:26
Hey thanks. But I had reason to be negative. do you realise how close we were to getting relegated in the last couple of seasons? But yes, we are now going in the right direction and the slide seems to have stopped. You say I have not mentioned Moyes. but I will say Koeman is closer to Moyes than Martinez with way of tactics and players he likes. oooh I had to get that in lol I can't wait to see who we get in the next 36 or so hours. I am confident we will get at least 1 and maybe even 2 real quality big money signings. I am hoping for Sissoko and Brahimi and maybe even Kone. Imagine all that pace in the side.
30 Aug 2016 13:29:15
Agree with everything there Degsy apart from us being close to relegation. Things were bad last season and to an extent the season before but we weren't that close to relegation. Sunderland on the other hand were a lot closer.
I would agree that is where we were heading under Martinez. If he was kept it would have been only a matter of time before we would be end up relegated.
Totally agree with your view on Koeman and Moyes. In all honesty I'd rather Koeman though.
30 Aug 2016 13:37:03
Degsy we were mid table both season we had as much chance of being relegated as being in Europe! I am much happier with RK in charge though very impressed with his performance so far.
30 Aug 2016 14:06:01
Although with the points we finished mid table Degsy does have a point as there were times we hit some real lows and we were getting beaten by teams that should not have been beating us! So it could have turned into a close relegation disaster!
Not sure if that's what you were getting at Degsy.
30 Aug 2016 14:25:07
I agree about the comparisons, I do believe that Koeman is a far superior manager though. For me, Moyes, although very effective, often struggled to have a Plan B formation or tactic, whereas Koeman has a Plan C as well as a Plan B! We are currently grinding out results under Koeman in a similar way to Moyes' reign, but this a with a squad low on confidence with the incompetent ghost of Martinez still weighing heavy on some of the lads minds. It's no coincidence that our best players so far have been Holgate and Gueye. We are a team on the up though, and as long as we get 1 or 2 faces in I think we have half a chance of top 6.
30 Aug 2016 14:49:00
Agree, under Martinez we would have lost the WBA game 2-1, under Moyes we would have equalised and then hunkered down for the draw.
Koeman has that edge to turn a loss into a win.
30 Aug 2016 15:44:34
We would have lost by more under Martinez.
30 Aug 2016 16:48:24
Can see where Degsy is coming from here. What with throwing stupid points away as well as the players looking low on confidence, we certainly had a look of a club on a downwards spiral. Although Rom never scored in the run in, his goals earlier in the season counted. Imagine if he was firing blanks, like he is at the moment, for the majority of last season and we would have been in trouble.
Still, them days have gone. RK, FM and SW are steering us in the right direction and, as fans, we should be nothing but optimistic of our future both short and long term.
{Ed025's Note - im with you there spud..
30 Aug 2016 16:50:39
Southern Toffee that's exactly what I was getting at. 2 seasons ago we went 11 games without a win with about 17 games left. We then scraped a few lucky points. Last season we had Lukaku out of form and injured. ok we stillwon a few but once you start sliding. its difficult to get out of it. Like all the pundits say. things seem to go for the teams at the top and against the teams at the bottom. Added to which, every season there seems to be a mid table team that starts to slide and ends up in the bottom 3 for a period. Sometimes they get out. sometimes they go down. I believe if Martinez had stayed and we had continued to sign the calibre of players that he had already, our squad would now be in a terrible mess. Thank goodness Koeman has come in and immediately added some backbone and pace. My one grateful thing of Martinez was signing a 20 goal a season center forward. We now have to get the players around him so that he can start banging them in again. If you think about it.7 points from 9.and Lukaku has not even scored yet! That would never have happened under Martinez.
30 Aug 2016 19:32:44
I agree with degsy the only reason we wasnt in a bad relagation scrap last year is because every1 else was so bad below us, look at the points tally, and don't forget 3 of those points we got after he left. If the relagated teams wernt so bad last year with the added pressure of bein right in amongst it things could of turned out worse ya never too good to go down once your in the scrap eg. Leeds, newcastle to name 2.