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31 Jul 2017 23:42:30
Whilst the new additions to the squad are very welcome - I do think our defence is a major weakness. Williams and Jagielka simply too old and Martina simply not good enough and Baines coming to the end of his EFC career (must be his last season)

As a result we will not break into top 6 never mind top 4

Koeman seems to be only looking at attacking options, the defence needs an overhaul.

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01 Aug 2017 06:04:37
I think baines is like a fine wine or a good cheese.

01 Aug 2017 07:12:34
Jesus bluewirral just how negative are you being again. our Def is ok I agree with you over martina but I have been very impressed with Keane Baines is still a good player and although I would rather use jags if koeman plays Williams so be it we need experience at CB. Our def was greatly improved last season being really hard to break down we knew we needed a keeper and got one we knew we needed a young CB we got one i'm sure you posted the other day which again was really negative so either your a red coming on to cause a stir or your just the most negative fan in the world if it's the second one I wouldn't want to sit by you at the game because there would be a few arguments going on i'm guessing why don't you just sit back enjoy the ride and watch us challenge top 4.

01 Aug 2017 07:45:20
Bluey, our defence is the weak link in comparison to the other positions. RB, Martina was a free and is a stopgap until A. Coleman is back and B. We identify (difficult in todays market) an ideal replacement. CB's will be Holgate, Kean eventually. We definitely need the LB position shoring up, backup for Baines and like the RB position identifying an ideal replacement.

01 Aug 2017 08:11:22
Agreed that defence is our weakness right now but we can't solve all our problems in one go. Baines (injury permitting) will be fine for majority of season, Keane and Williams need to be given a few games to build a partnership and to get match fit. Jags and Mason are both very decent back up options.
At RB Cucina is merely an experienced back up - not a great one I accept - but hopefully Kenny will get a chance as well until best RB in Prem recovers from injury.

But as Bluey said let's enjoy it and not write this season off before a ball is even kicked.

01 Aug 2017 09:09:03
What you have to remember is RK was a world class defender, if he feels we need to strengthen I'm sure he will, have faith we have kean and he's already looking a bargain, he may think we have options with holgate, and other youngsters until Coleman is back.

01 Aug 2017 09:28:39
If we get giroud, Baines will be back to his old self. Lukaku couldn't head a ball from the left leaving bainsy ineffective.

01 Aug 2017 09:34:40
my point being was bluewirral is very negative yes our Def is our weakest area but it isn't a poor Def Keane is a great signing Williams Welsh captain isn't as bad as some say jags is still club captain and Baines isn't over the hill yet we have signed a potential world class keeper and we have youngsters who are knocking on the door some people need to realise we can't fix everything in 1 go if koeman went out and bought a whole new def people would be moaning saying our strike force and mid r poor the club can't win.

01 Aug 2017 09:53:33
I think some are just looking for things to complain about our defenders are good quality with possibly one of the best defenders, ever, coaching them. Just check out the other teams defenders they are all pretty much in the same if not worse situation than us. At least we have a good blend of youth and experience and the youth has great potential. One thing I would say is give Martina some time he's played one competitive game in preseason he like the rest of the squad need to get up to match speed. He is a stop gap for Coleman after all. COYB.

01 Aug 2017 19:22:43
I can not believe people are questioning the defense. A simple stat that explains it all for me.

2015/ 16 season we finished joint 15th in defense.
2016/ 17 season we finished joint 6th in defense.

Simply because the first season in terms of defense we had a clueless one. Second season we had as said above a world class defender when he was playing.

Along with that we have Pickford who should also improve things more. We will have one of the best defense in the premier league next season. No doubt about it.



 

 

 
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