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14 Sep 2017 19:59:03
We are in serious trouble. Our last three games combined. Everton 32 shots for 4 on target, opposition 52 shots for for 21 on target. 8 goals to Nil. Defending is shot, midfield is shot, and poor old Sandro and Dominic can't get into the game. We could have Messi up front and we would still. be putrid. No pace, no creativity, no game plan, no nothing. Did we just buy the Swansea sigurddson or the Tottenham one.

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14 Sep 2017 22:10:35
koeman is a flawed tactician there can be no doubt, he plays att formations when he should be more balanced and tinkers too much when he should play to his / players strengths. more over he makes the same mistakes in formations and personal week in week out. however let's be honest he isn't telling those players go out and sit deep and just let teams attack you. (well i hope not) this is the fault of the players not having a clear leader on the pitch and not having the drive or inspiration to make things happen. we are playing formations for whatever reason that our current squad can't play. so koeman needs to address that and quick and those players need to have a word with themselves cause it is just not good enough. don't think koemans job is under threat just yet.

{Ed025's Note - the play is far too slow floats and a lot of that seems to revolve around rooney, the sideways passing, then back, then a corner for us that ends up back to our keeper its dire to watch, im not blaming it all on wayne but united played like that last season, im not looking for a scapegoat here just looking for a reason why we are so poor mate..

15 Sep 2017 06:16:19
Maybe Wayne's problem with sideways passing is because he likes a bit on the side. I'll get my coat haha.

15 Sep 2017 00:36:09
Nail. Head. 025. Rooney is the reason I stopped watching England for that exact reason.

{Ed025's Note - its not just wayne though benny, there is no one grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck and we dont seem to have a leader, the players are just going through the motions and its up to koeman to get it sorted or we will have to find someone who will mate..

15 Sep 2017 08:54:34
There are good players there, RK simply needs to acknowledge that he can't play all his favourite individuals. Williams not good enough imo and should be dropped for jags or bring browning back. Kenny deserves a chance. Lookman and davies need a crack imo and I'd go 4-4-2 with Calvert- lewin along side Rooney or dare I say niasse or mirrallas. The benefit of playing Rooney imo is that he could drop back into midfield if necessary if we needed to shore up. plus he works harder than mirrallas and I think has more savvy than both other options. Where do we stand on bringing players like browning or dowell back?

{Ed025's Note - im not sure jcl but they are not the answer anyway, we can all see the problems which is all the players are too similar, we have a plethora of No 10,s who all have limited pace and no target man to hit, our defence is very static and lacks not only confidence but leadership and it leaves us with a scenario of a team who are shipping goals and not creating chances, the most worrying aspect for me is the lack of passion and how we are second best in challenges and koeman needs to step up to the plate, dropping rooney and schneiderlin would be a start as they tend to slow the play more than most imo but im sure other posters will have there own ideas on how to fix things mate..

15 Sep 2017 09:20:16
Ed, I agree with mist, simply trying to think of alternatives with squad available. for example this weekend I'd play 4-4-2. Starting at top, I'd play Calvert-lewin and Rooney ( purely because mirrallas never tracks back, and niasse would get slated if we got battered. wouldn't be fair to him) . In midfield I'd go with Gana and sigurdson with lookman and mirallas on flanks. Back four would be baines jags, Keane and Kenny (baptism of fire)

15 Sep 2017 10:09:49
We say no leadership and yet we have Man U and Englands captain, wales captain, Ajax captain as well as our own captain. So leadership is not something we should be lacking - but unfortunately, just like motivation, we are.
We need an injection of pace somewhere and last night, with Holgate and Baines we had zero forward movement. Even Baines has lost that ability to pass players and get crosses in - we constantly take easy option.

For me, and being a little radical because something different is clearly required, I would go 3-5-2

Baines, Keane, Holgate
Cuco, Davies, Gueye, Kenny
DCL. Sandro or Rooney

Bit more pace at back. Jags and Williams make everyone nervous so let Keane take responsibility. Baines not got the pace to get past people anymore but gives us balance with a left foot

And most of all we may get some enthusiasm

It won't happen, but,

15 Sep 2017 20:16:31
I don't get this obsession with 2 holding midfielders either, I'm sure Gueye is good enough to handle the role on his own. We could then play Sigurdsson/ Klassen/ Davies in a deep playmaking role, driving through the middle, with Rooney/ Sigurdsson behind the striker, then Lookman or Bolasie (on his return) on the left and Vlasic/ Mirallas on the right providing pace on the wings. Schneiderlin could rotate with Gueye. Can't be any worse than the last 2 games. We've shopped 6 goals in 2 games so it's not like the defence is any better with 2 midfielders in front of them.

15 Sep 2017 22:31:35
Spot on gibbons. I think I'm there or there abouts with you on my selection. I think Gana is man for holding role along side sigurdson. and lookman HAS to be given a crack!

16 Sep 2017 01:29:22
Bad team that dave.

16 Sep 2017 08:48:02
Wouldn't disagree Dunc. Problem is we have tried virtually everything else and nothing works.
Trying to be positive, when we get Yannick, Mori and Seamus back maybe we have a 'first 11' because that is what we desperately need - some stability, a formation that suits US and not changing every week because of who we play. Let them worry about us

So once the three are back;

Seamus Keane Mori Baines
Vlasic. Sig. Bolasie
Ramirez. Rooney or DCL

Bench of Lookman, Holgate, Schneiderlin, klaasen, Niasse, Davies.

17 Sep 2017 01:29:04
We are missing a centre forward and 2 fast wingers yannicks not back till January, I'm afraid we will be mid table at best by then we are to mobile no1 from midfield runs at the opposition and creates chances we need Ross if you ask me.

17 Sep 2017 11:07:55
Koeman's insistance on Rooney must play causes problems. Rooney playing means other major signings are out of position. Siguurdson needs to play through the middle. My Team would be G/ K not bothered who, Holgate, Keane, Jags/ Williams (Funes when fit)
Kenny RWB, Baines LWB (need a replacement badly) , Gana, Mirralas Siguurdson Lookman, Sandro/ CLW/ Klaason.



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