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25 Jul 2018 07:13:37
Hey Ed025 with more rumours this morning on Mr Usmanov selling his shares in Arsenal what's your take on this situation mate, would he do you think buy into Everton in some way such as the new stadium with naming rights etc, just seems lots of investment needed with the stadium project this could be just the time for him to join us.

{Ed025's Note - im not sure how it will pan out GB or in fact if we are even in his plans, but if he wanted to come i would welcome him with open arms mate..

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25 Jul 2018 07:46:54
Yeh cheers for that mate Usmanov just seems to be doing this at the right time call me cynical mate but this chance could be too good to miss, coincidence hmmmm.

25 Jul 2018 11:18:35
Think Mr Usmanov already has shares in Everton, (indirectly)

{Ed002's Note - That would be illegal.}

25 Jul 2018 11:26:06
That's why it's (indirectly) Ed, he did give our new owner a big big gift, wish I had a mate like that? but wait I do Ed25?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. If it were found that there has been illegal investment in Everton or the name of shareholders not being disclosed, the consequences for the club are well beyond serious.}

25 Jul 2018 12:10:04
I read an interview with him some time ago, and i recall he said something along the lines of "he doesn't necessarily want to invest in a football club only arsenal as he has always been a supporter of that club. " However, he is a business man after all and if there is profit to be made, then who knows.

25 Jul 2018 13:26:09
If the people running Everton Football Club allowed any breach of the PL, FA, UEFA, FIFA financial regulations, then they and the club would rightly be subject to severe sanctions. Just look at what happened at Rangers when they were demoted to the bottom tier of the Scottish league system.
The business links (and friendship) between Moshiri and Usmanov are well documented.
The sponsorship by USM (Usmanov’s company) of Everton’s training complex is clearly known - the sign at the entrance says “USM Finch Farm”!
The football authorities vetted everything and nothing was found that breached their rules. Any stories about gifts, indirect involvement, etc., are idle speculation and of no apparent concern to the football authorities.
If (a big “if”) Usmanov sells his entire Arsenal shareholding, there’d have to be a good business reason for him to then invest in Everton instead (just like there surely was for Moshiri) .
Of course, they’d like to control the running of a PL club (which they couldn’t at Arsenal) , but they’re businessmen who (in my opinion) want to see a return on their investment - which means not only success on the field, but also the eventual possibility of selling-up at a tidy profit.
All I would say further is that if Usmanov did sell his Arsenal shares - and Kroenke became more firmly entrenched there for the long-term - then the Arsenal fans (many if not most I’d suggest) would be distraught. They eventually got their wish when Wenger departed, but getting Kroenke out will surely be a much more difficult task.

25 Jul 2018 13:30:35
I think the hardest part will be selling his shares to someone who will not be a majority holder and not have the big clout on matters, I cannot see him selling his shares to the other guy at Arsenal either.

Coming to Everton would be the easy part, almost guaranteed to be the majority share owner after negotiating with his mate Moshi.

I still think Moshi was here to secure the majority shares and when doing so, it would fall into place for Usmanov to take on his next challenge.

Should get the steel for the new stadium at bargain price as well, kill two birds with one stone.

25 Jul 2018 16:41:04
bignev: notwithstanding what Usmanov does, there’s a school of thought that the club will raise more cash - not as debt (loans) , but as equity (shares) by creating more shares (I think it’s called a “rights” issue) . That way Moshiri could put more cash into the club - and stay within football’s financial rules - by buying those new shares. Has anyone else got genuine information on this?

25 Jul 2018 22:41:01
I was listening to a sports radio channel today and they had a football finance expert on talking about the Arsenal situation with Usmanov wanting to sell his shares. The interesting thing he mentioned was that when Usmanovnmanages to sell his Arsenal shares he will speak to his financial advisor.
The host asked who that was and the answer was
Mr Moshiri
Expert then talked about the difficulties involved in throwing loads of money with the new restrictions.
So whilst possibly exciting we shouldn’t get carried away.

25 Jul 2018 23:12:14
The easiest (and by no means easy) fix to FFP is that any money spent on infrastructure, training facilities or youth development is not counted. Therefore for e. g, AU could come in and fund a brand new stadium, double or training facilities, double or youth development and all this investment would not be included in any FFP calculations, add into that a Stadium deal like City got away with i.e 400million over 10yrs, effectively again by there own owners. -Ratified, and . Where there is a will. there is a way!

{Ed002's Note - It is not counted already.}

25 Jul 2018 23:19:14
Hi Ed, that’s right isn’t it what I’ve said . Any monies spent on infrastructure, training facilities or youth development will not count as expenditure, in terms of against income. It’s basically a free pass.

{Ed002's Note - Correct.}

26 Jul 2018 13:07:38
Big New: Eds may correct me, but given Kroenke's position as a majority shareholder I believe he might be obliged to offer other shareholders the opportunity to sell, and in turn increase his own level of control. Might be Usmanov's way out if indeed he is looking to divest.



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