15 May 2018 22:57:39
When are the fans going to take responsibility for their part in the mess in which we find ourselves? . The reason we have had no stability since Moyes is because there is never any satisfaction - if we signed Messi someone would be moaning about his beard or that he isn't a true blue or whatever.
Last summer this forum was inundated with positivity following the unprecedented transfer dealings and the money spent. roll on a few weeks and everyone's calling for Koemans head.


1.) 15 May 2018
15 May 2018 23:35:04
I didn't want him gone New but can you blame the fans?

He bought 4 no 10s, no cover for LB, a poor RB as cover for an injured Coleman. No recognised quality no9 and no replacement if that no9 got injured.
He was hardly winning the fans over with that approach was he?


2.) 16 May 2018
16 May 2018 06:36:35
I am with you Nev7611. Remember Koeman and the red Christmas decorations? To me it all started in Moyes' time. He had taken over a team that was destined for relegation. Yet supporters were not happy with the progress he made. We had flirted with relegation for year after year with Mike Walker and Walter Smith. Yet even though we had got to cup finals, cup semis, Champions League and Europa League qualification, people were glad to see his "brand" of football go. I would agree that he said some stupid things and left under a cloud. However, when Martinez took over, the squad was neglected and very poor signings made. Lots of supporters could not see our over reliance on one player alone. The balanced squad that Moyes had created became weaker and weaker over the next 5 years to the point that right now I fear for our league position and we seem to be flirting with relegation again. We will lose 2 of our best players in Jags and Baines next season due to age. We will also need to replace many other players who have just not "cut it". eg Martina, Williams and maybe even some expensive recent signings. Klaasen? This is a major overhaul for any manager. never mind one new to a club. These sort of mass changes need to happen slowly over years. not in one foul swoop. Coleman is our one bright spark and what happens if one of the "so called top clubs" comes in for him? eg Man Utd. Then we will be in the mire. Lookman seems to be doing well. but there is talk that he will go to one of these teams. Look at the players that have come and gone since Moyes: Delefeo, Eto'o, Cleverly, Alcaraz, Kone, Atsu, Besic, McGeady, Lennon, Barry and Valencia. and of course Lukaku. Also look at how the ones still with us signed for big money: Sig, Shneid, Mori, Klaasen, Pickford, Bolasie, Williams, Gueye, Niasse, Keane, Vlasic and Rooney. That is 24 players we have signed post Moyes who together have done bugger all. Lukaku excepted. Ok you could also argue Rooney still does a bit and Barry was quality. There are also the likes of McCarthy who was very unfortunate with injuries and is still with us. But post Moyes.23 players of which 2 or 3 have contributed a bit. Maybe Gueye has also been promising too. but 24 signings of which say 20 have contributed silch to our club. Well at least not improved what we had before. This has turned into a bit of a rant. But your post was about how our supporters have been part of the problem. Well I agree. We have blown hot and cold over players, managers, board and directors. I guess that is part of football. But the way I look at it, is that putting a squad together takes time. I do blame managers and board for part of this. But like you, I also blame our "fickle" fans who wanted change at every turn. They want it again with Allardyce and no doubt will get it. Whether that will improve things. only time will tell. But the amount of change our football club has had in recent times is too much in my opinion. We do need some stability. as like in the Moyes years. You could pick the team week in week out then. Maybe one or 2 changes a season. We have been talking 4 or 5 changes a season in recent years. It is too much.


3.) 16 May 2018
16 May 2018 10:42:43
Never.