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22 Oct 2017 23:36:40
Not posted here fir a long time (Lukaku deal I think) as I've not had anything concrete.
Been informed this evening Koeman has gone.
Rhino in charge for the next few.
1.) 23 Oct 2017 00:57:43
No joy here, as I am mainly concerned with our place at the table. RK looked good on paper, but sometimes it just does not work out. Once you've lost the office staff (or team) , no manager (however talented) can be successful.
Of course managers in any line of work are judged by results.
I have no earthly idea who would take the job, but hopefully a fresh start will do the team good. Perhaps Ross will stay.
As an aside, without two unpopular players, we would have less goals than Palace.
2.) 23 Oct 2017 17:21:00
Koeman did not look good on paper. His track record for the vast majority of his career was woeful.
30 Jul 2014 15:37:10
Guys, not been a trumpet blower on here, but I told you nearly 2 weeks ago the Lukaku deal was done. Once again, I wouldn't have posted it without a good source!
Things are looking good!
1.) 30 Jul 2014 17:20:31
You dreamed something up that is still not confirmed. Keep calm.
2.) Jesus Matt, it's been confirmed for nearly 2 weeks.
3.) You in dream land son?
4.) He did call this on Saturday to be fair and said he wouldn't write it if he wasn 't 100% it was done so fair play to you Paul mate looks like you were spot on
5.) When conformation comes I will happily hold my hands up and scoff my humble pie.
6.) Paul. My apologies. Every post you write from now on has my full backing.
7.) Roberto had a dream
8.) Lol it's fine guys, I'm the first to question authenticity of such rumours. But I wouldn't have said it unless it was a done deal, I know how people get torn apart!
Things are looking good for a change!
18 Jul 2014 23:53:09
Guys, I wouldn't write this if I wasn't sure (as I know I would get terrorised if I was wrong.
Lukaku is 100% an Everton player. Deal all done. £18m, and 80k per week.
Things are looking up!
1.) 19 Jul 2014 00:36:02
Bold statement. At least you know what will happen if it's not true.
2.) 19 Jul 2014 00:42:54
I don't believe the mail one bit, if anything, the fact they are saying this makes me think he will be at a club abroad in the next 48 hours, 80k a week is a lot for us, I certainly hope we break our transfer record this summer, in still not convinced on lukaku, we will see
3.) 19 Jul 2014 00:57:26
i think that 18m is a lot less than I expect chelsea to accept, and 80k a week is a lot more than I expect everton to offer. I'd love to sign him for 18m and than paying him 50-60k a week.
4.) I would expect maybe 18m but I'm sure there would b add ons if that is the price 80k a week is fair I'm not certain of this but I thought there was players here on 60 70k already plus if we are to start buying these type of players we need to b payin these types of wages to compete with the other clubs massive signing for us if true going to b an exciting season for us all
5.) OP is correct. Everton Aren't We on Twitter said this well before The Mail, and the writer of the article has been clarified as being very well in on the info regarding Everton by an Echo reporter.
Obviously, people can doubt all they want until it's official, but I'm nigh on certain hell sign now. Not sure about the 48hour thing though, 'cause knowing Everton 48hours is often 48days.
Anyway, be happy guys!
6.) Why is it not announced then? If he had signed it would be announced. I hope to god you 're right mate but I just don't see how he can of signed and the clubs not announced it.
7.) Because they're still in Austria PB2. When they unveil they'll want Bobby there with him, so when they get back it'll surely be announced then.
8.) Not having it Keith, if he had signed it would be all over the OS simple as that. I still call bullshit on this.
9.) 19 Jul 2014 13:07:23
Paul said it was a done deal, not that he'd signed.
I believe we will get him this weekend and for less than the 18m being bandied around.The bookies all make us favourites to sign him and they don't often get it wrong.
10.) Trust me guys, I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't sure. I'd be the first to terror someone if they were wrong lol.
11.) 19 Jul 2014 17:07:16
Why do I believe you now?
12.) We are getting him, good inside info jus received
13.) Looks like you've been took for a mug Paul ssn reporting he's ready to fight for his place at Chelsea. I did post about this afew days ago.
14.) 19 Jul 2014 21:10:31
Tbf matt mate, ssn are not exactly right all the time, I've already mentioned the bs they put about butland and diame, they rode the mccarthy to man u story hoping something would happen, it didnt, just because they have a whole 24hr channel dedicated to them doesn't make them right, just because they get 2 diprubbish presenters who can't tell their arse from their elbow to speak in front of a camera with their agent 47 suits and their tit showing dresses don't make them fortune tellers, ssn are telling me this show is a load of rubbish
{Ed025's Note - i agree with you swan..
15.) I wrote a massive post out about this before but it never got posted, any reason Ed? Not reply to this a nee one. Tbh, I'm with Swan about ssn but this Lukaku rumour smelt of a rat from the beginning. I'm not saying Pauls kidding us but nothing sits right with it. For a start 18 mil is nowhere near enough Chelsea will want well more, the sources are the worst 2 that could be. Twitter and the Mail and if Ed002 is on the level he has already said Everton have NOT made a bid and o keefe said today it would be very difficult for Everton to pull a deal of given the current situation (this was at 11am this morn so after the rumours last night) it's all rubbish and that fool on "everton aren't we" is looking like a proper idiot now after his outburst last night. It's not happening let's just get over it and move on. He's even changed his twitter to "chelsea player" the club should do the decent thing and quosh all this rubbish
{Ed025's Note - it may have been deleted by another ed because of the choice language pb2..its frowned upon mate..
16.) Ah right, fair enough I'll cut that out now, I'm always careful not to use words like f and t etc but sometimes a**e s**t b******s and stuff get posted so I use them i'll refrain in future no problem. What's your personal gut feeling mate, there must be something coming out of the club, the whole rumour etc just feels wrong to me, nothing sits right and if your ed002 is genuine in what he says he can't be any clearer when he said Everton have NOT made a bid. If he knows this for a fact then it's finished there is no question the rumours over the last 24hours are nonsense. What's your feelings ed025.
{Ed025's Note - no one has contacts at chelsea like ED002 pb, so if he says no bid has been made..you can take it as red, for me lukaku and his agent are playing hard ball, they want the best possible deal, which i suppose is fair, but chelsea want ross and are trying to use romelu as a bargaining tool...if i was bill, i would call their bluff and declare that we have no interest in him..but thats just me mate..
17.) Thanks for the honesty ed, I have always found you to be honest and forthcoming more so I think because you're one of us so if you say that ed002 is right on the ball with Chelsea stuff then I believe you. Ed002 likes to talk in riddles a lot and leaves stuff open ended and open to interpretation quite often but he cannot be any clearer when he says EVERTON HAVE NOT MADE A BID FOR LUKAKU. That ends any hope or lingering chance that any of this "he has signed" is true doesn't it. Fact is he hasn't signed nor has any deal been done (as of yet)
18.) According to a good source mouriniho is keeping LUKAKU
17 Jul 2014 20:29:32
I'm not 100% convinced myself, but what I'm seeing in a few places tonight, is that the staff at the Everton store have been told to get ready for a mass print of 'Lukaku 10' shirts.
Imagine that ay!
1.) 17 Jul 2014 20:40:44
Not a chance mate. He's happy.
2.) I'd be very surprised if the staff at the shop were told anything that could be leaked about transfers.
3.) 17 Jul 2014 20:42:57
This and that keeps being said. I'm starting to believe he'll be our player next season at least. Come on Bobby lad.
4.) I know guys, very far fetched, just throwing it out there as I've seen it in more than 1 place this evening.
5.) 17 Jul 2014 20:57:17
Agree with you Sid. I know a few people who work in the Everton (and Liverpool) shops, and they're not there because of their outstanding intelligence! They would never trust them with information like that.
6.) Lukaku will sign for us as soon as he gets back from his holidays.
7.) Brilliant AB
8.) Well guys, basic retail selling. If you have plenty of stock to get rid of before it becomes redundant, then crank up the hype to sell off that stock asap - simples. :o)
9.) Well never say never things do get out, look at utd who are suppose to be good at not letting news out of the club, the papers were saying moyes has been sacked before he knew
14 Jul 2014 07:07:16
Looks like the night have been something to that rumour I heard the other day, about Lukaku reps meeting Everton reps in Birmingham.
The bookies have now got us as odds on for him. Fingers crossed lads this might be it!
1.) When will the average punters realise that bookies set the odds according to the amount of money that's been wagered in the market and how much they (the bookies) could each win or lose whatever result might arise. The bookies might set the initial odds - before a bet is placed - according to what they think, but once bets are being placed, it's pretty much simple arithmetic as they aim to make money whatever the outcome. The bookies' purpose is to make money - pure and simple - and all the rest is pure marketing to drive up interest and take more of the punters' money. I'll admit it's exciting and good fun - I'll have an occasional flutter myself.
Something suddenly becoming short odds is usually because there's been a flurry of money being placed - usually due to some rumour in social media! Bookies are just making sure that they don't lose money whatever the outcome. Besides, the big bookies are dealing with millions of pounds being bet, so they have to look at their projected profit and loss columns when setting the odds.
How many times have you seen stories about odds being dramatically changed - say for managerial appointments - only to see a different outcome? The reason bookies are perceived as "not often being wrong" is because they know how to offer odds that make money - not because they can predict the future. If they were perfect - and if the punters were perfect - then every event would be won by the betting favourite and no non-favourite, let alone an outsider, would ever win. Whatever outcome, the bookies have set odds to protect themselves.
That's why you don't often see a bust bookie - and that's also thanks to a large extent to there being so so many "mug" punters, which includes me!
2.) 14 Jul 2014 10:52:13
Quite the response that, Sid. I completely get what you're saying, but these sudden influxes of bets, and the subsequent alteration of the odds don't come from nowhere. Sure, social media is unreliable, but bookies aren't stupid, and they wouldn't drop the odds to evens, hugely reducing their take, unless they believed this has legs.
3.) 14 Jul 2014 11:16:42
alternatively, the flutter of money placed on a certain event could be inside information which then causes odds to drop. Consider a everton representative who was not meant to know Lukaku's move was iminent suddenly found out it was a 'done deal' but at that moment bookies did not know the paperwork had been signed and that representative then put a large amount of money backing Lukaku to sign, the odds would shorten. (not always social media which can effect betting odds)
4.) AB1878: thanks for your post.
By reducing the odds, bookies are looking to keep their margin of profit whatever the outcome - although I accept that punters might find the reduced odds less attractive and not place as many bets.
The stake (what the punter has paid and would lose if the bet is a loser) would still be the same - the change in odds would only affect what a punter gets paid if the bet is a winner. The bookie can only affect what is paid out on winning bets - by changing the odds - but cannot affect the stake money that the punters have already placed. Besides, for these sort of football bets, the odds for each wager is usually fixed for each bet as it's placed - it's not like horse racing where you'd get SP (starting price) odds for the bet.
I accept that all sorts of things affect the odds being offered by bookies, but I maintain that the odds are, above all other considerations, just the arithmetical reflection of the money being placed in the betting market and are not a reflection of their ability to predict the future. It's just a money-making business for them.
Let's say that Everton were 100-1 to win the Premier League outright. If I could afford to bet £1,000, then I could win £100,000 (plus my stake back as well) OR I could lose and the stake goes to the bookie. In the great scheme of things, only 1 out of 20 clubs would eventually win the Premier League, so the bookie will pay out on bets on just one club and keep the stakes for the rest. The bookie will do the arithmetic and have offered odds accordingly. Now, if thousands of other Everton fans made the same bet as me, and it wins (!), then the bookie would have to pay out millions - and be at risk of not covering this by the stakes from all the losing bets on the other clubs. So, the bookie would start changing the odds as the bets pile on - shortening Everton and lengthening other clubs depending on the arithmetic. The change in odds usually means that more bets are being placed - punters lumping money on the "new" favourites OR thinking that a longer-priced one is worth a punt. Either way, the bookie will make sure that all the stakes from the losing bets would cover the cost of paying out the winning bets.
Sure, the bookies want to attract punters - and will generate interest in the media - but they're in business to make money, which they're pretty successful at.
I say again - I like an occasional flutter, but although it's an affordable bit of fun for me, I recognise that it's a serious money-making business for bookies.
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30 Dec 2016 21:01:59
With Geri left out the squad tonight and the Milan rumours rife, Lookman coming straight in, do we think we've seen the end of him in our shirt?
I really like the lad, think he could be world class one day, but he's a disposable player. Very rare to not see him blowing out of his arse after 25mins.
31 Jul 2013 18:08:05
So Barton is a possibility? Question for you guys. Would you be happy if Barton signed, and we had £15m left to buy another striker, or would you rather £15m on McCarthy?
I'd go for Barton I'm afraid.
1.) I'd go for Barton as well. I think we all know 15m is too much for McCarthy
2.) McCarthy would represent a sound investment for £15m. He's still just 22 learning the game and will get better with age. He's a top class player right now and unless something went drastically awry we'd see at least a £20m return on him.
He will be one of the best all round midfielders in the game in a few years if he can impose himself on games a little more.
And he doesn't get involved in all the carry on Barton does.
21 Jul 2013 16:36:00
Hi guys, just seen on an Everton fan page on FB, that the Hamburg director has confirmed they want to take Jelavic. Not sure if I can see this, but thought I'd give it a quick share
1.) Something not working for him at everton so maybe right time for a change if price is good enough
09 Jul 2013 18:54:23
Absolutely loving Martinez. Taking care of business nice and early. Not the Moyes way!
1.) Here here, 2 players in one day!
Please don't let me wake up.
2.) 3 players in 2 days, moyes didn't do 3 players in 2 months
08 Jul 2013 23:09:35
Has Kone been given a squad number yet guys?
1.) Yeah 17
2.) We should probably leave 17 in memory of Cahill- my hero
30 Dec 2016 20:58:48
It has to be Lookman. All but confirmed it seems. Schneiderlin won't be far behind him.
Lol it's fine guys, I'm the first to question authenticity of such rumours. But I wouldn't have said it unless it was a done deal, I know how people get torn apart!
Things are looking good for a change!
Jesus Matt, it's been confirmed for nearly 2 weeks.
Trust me guys, I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't sure. I'd be the first to terror someone if they were wrong lol.
Brilliant AB
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