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30 Aug 2016 21:11:16
Hi Blues

I know he is a controversial choice and many people don't rate him but i think Jack Wilshire could be worth a punt. I say this though only on certain terms which i don't even know if they would be possible.

We take him on the season long loan but with the following deal - a termination clause if he gets a serious injury. If there is a loan fee, this gets decreased in value if he misses a certain percentage of matches through injuries, so perhaps pay half in advance and the remainder based on the games he was available for throughout the season.

I am very dubious of his injury record but i am wondering if maybe he is not committed as much as he could be at Arsenal. He thinks he's a golden boy there but by being told he has to go on loan could give him a real kick up the ass that his future is on the line at last. He needs to perform well this year to either stay with Arsenal or at least become an attractive proposition for other teams he would want to join and so this season long loan could see him play to the best of his ability and whoever gets him could really benefit from this.


{Ed025's Note - i cant see arsenal agreeing to that worcester, by the way it is jack that has asked to go on loan not arsenal mate..

1.) 30 Aug 2016 21:44:18
I had the same kind of feeling about Balotelli, try to get him on loan with a behaviour clause. All it takes is one gamble to pay off and it can gain you 10 points a season. PS I know Liverpool wouldn't do that but surely some players are worth a gamble. What's better? Paying £13.5m for Niasse?

2.) 31 Aug 2016 00:48:52
I think in most cases when someone on loan sustains an injury they return to the parent club for treatment depending on how serious of course.

3.) 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Thanks Ed, i had no idea Jack asked for the move. I assumed it was a club choice due to not playing plus being stacked in that position. He must be confident he is going to stay fit this year if he wants to move for regular game time, else it just seems pointless asking to go.

{Ed025's Note - i think he feels he needs a break worcester and needs game time, he has not been getting that at arsenal plus a lot of his problems have been personal ones created by the crowd he knocks around with, the smoking and drinking issues has seen him fall lout with the hierarchy at the emirates and a move away seems the logical solution mate..



18 Jun 2016 14:32:02
Hi all,
I have a friend who likes to claim he's "in the know", but personally i take it very much with a pinch of salt. we all know people who claim they're connected but can't back it up. I mostly ignore all of his so called info, but he did say something that for once sounds feasible.

Apparently RoKo is looking for a replacement for Barry, with Barry set to take a lesser game playing role in the team. His age now, and amount of bookings does to me make sense for the manager to be considering options.

It got me thinking about who is actually available, will it be a defensive midfield enforcer or someone with a touch more class to make attacking play happen? I can't actually think of a player who would add much to us as a team, at least not one who would consider us anyway, as let's face it we're never going to be signing the Iniestas of the game.

Anybody heard something similar or who has realistic options of who we could convince to join? Thanks as always.


1.) 18 Jun 2016 16:17:05
wanyama frm southampton, good strong midfielder.

2.) 18 Jun 2016 17:21:52
Looks like he's set for splurs.

3.) 18 Jun 2016 18:18:24
You don't have to be in the know to see that it's pretty obvious Gareth Barry's getting on. Wanyama, Strootman, Erdevisie players we haven't heard of.

4.) 18 Jun 2016 18:30:13
Witsel far better player don't rate wanyama we need two good midfielders, keeper left sided winger and another striker two if Lukaka goes. My team ideally would be: Forster, Coleman, stones, mori, bainsey, delefoue, witsel, winjaldah, Brady, milik, Lukaka.

5.) 18 Jun 2016 18:40:14
We already have a player who could fit that role Worcester. It is not cast in stone but this player could be better in the midfield were his defensive mistakes would not be as much of a problem as in central defense and his desire to drive forward could be an advantage.

6.) 18 Jun 2016 18:51:42
its pretty obvious worcester, that barrys days are numbered.



18 Jul 2015 00:24:17
Hey all,
I heard a rumour that we were showing an interest in Nemanja Vidic, but now it seems Evans is our guy, (although there has been a lot of denials about wanting him). Does anyone know if the Vidic thing ever had legs or was it just someone teasing me?

Also it appears if we are offered 32m plus for Stones then we will do a deal. Very disappointing!

Finally, is there any further info regarding Ospina, Nathan Dyer, januzaj or even our tenuous link to Raul Meireles?



1.) 18 Jul 2015 09:53:47
I posted the rumour last week but believe it was a tentative enquiry

2.) 18 Jul 2015 19:08:10
If we allow stones to leave and replace him with evans then Martinez has clearly lost the plot.

3.) 22 Jul 2015 11:17:22
Mick626, doing that for me, would be an imminent sack-able offence. But he has said he has no interest in signing Evans.




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18 Apr 2017 22:20:45
Hi all,

Really enjoying this season but so annoying to lose so heavily against Liverpool and then drop two points at the death against Utd, those extra few points could have given us a real shout at snatching 5th. I think whilst there has been great improvement this year, it shows we still need significant improvement.

That brings me on to Rooney, I heard he will join us if offered the same terms we offered Rom, it's a high wage yes but significantly lower than he earns now or could get with other clubs so i like the passion he must still have for the club. I do worry about the reported contract pay off of £30 mil tho that he's due from Utd/ potential buyer.

I think he's clearly not the player of old, not a replacement for Rom and not going to play a lot of our matches, but if we get Europa, and want to push for a Cup then someone like him could be invaluable for the extra games we face. I think his biggest asset in signing for us is what he can offer to the younger stars we have emerging. Lookman, Calvert-Lewin and Davies could improve their game immensely by working with Rooney, and perhaps Rom and Barkley could still learn some new aspects to their game, after all, they're still relatively young and very much in the 'room for improvement' stage of their careers.

I understand it's a conflicted feeling for most fans, but surely a world class mentor for the younger players is a worthwhile investment.


1.) 18 Apr 2017 22:56:55
Top post Worcester EFC.

2.) 18 Apr 2017 23:08:01
I agree. I'd have him on a free for £100k a week. The lad scored 15 goals last season and hasn't become a bad player in 1 season.

3.) 19 Apr 2017 07:49:54
He would love to come home. Playing for us next season would give him a new lease of life. It would also make financial sense. We would get a larger revenue stream by having him in team, sky alone would show more live games of us.

4.) 19 Apr 2017 08:31:42
You only have to look how Utd have done in the premiership this season with Rooney missing a lot of those games only ibrahimovics rich vain of form have kept Utd in the top 6, would add experience to our squad, especially now with the Europa league place all but settled, be a brilliant addition to our squad.

5.) 19 Apr 2017 10:33:32
I agree with all you Blues that I would have Wayne back with no reservations.
Wayne has blue blood running in him, but he could have made himself into another DIXIE with folklore attributes by offering to play for us for well nothing!
Yes I can hear you all laughing saying how naive I am, but I have like you all blue blood running through me .

We are all saying how marvellous he is offering to take a wage cut to come to us, but with the amount of money he has accrued which is millions upon millions the amount he will receive playing a few years at Everton will not make a dent on what he has.

So in reality the overwhelming positivity he would have received from all over the world for such an act would in my opinion be far greater to me than what to him (not any of us would be a drop in his ocean).

So I will be glad if he comes but sadly he is just as greedy as every single one of these footballers. A missed opportunity as far as I am concerned sadly, but he will still be an asset, but don't think he's great, just because he's gong to take a pay cut.
Perhaps he could give it all to penniless Evertonians!

6.) 19 Apr 2017 12:19:14
Very good posts all of those above, i agree completely and have said all along that Wayne would be a tremendous asset to Everton not only for the playing side of things but helping the youngsters and also Ross would learn so musch from him, he can also still put in a good shift in the Team when required and would be a very good signing for R K and Mr Moshiri, and one I am sure most fans want, GuernseyBlue.

7.) 19 Apr 2017 12:42:45
Yes I would have him back, no way he would go to China, his misses would not allow it, LOL.

8.) 19 Apr 2017 12:44:00
That's the problem Worcester, 30 mil and a contract worth potentially 18 mil (I presume we will give him 3 years) is a lot to invest in a player who has clearly shown is on the decline.

I personally think we should invest that amount elsewhere. I don't think the forgotten man at Manchester is going to up EFCs profile that much, he sold shirts for the Mancs cause he played for the Mancs, even his time as an England player looks at an end. Let's not be sentimental. We need to look to the future and long term building of the team.

9.) 19 Apr 2017 15:19:20
I disagree BeStyrne. Look at Defoe now back in the England fold after being the forgotten man. If he comes and performs then I don't see why he can't play for England again.

10.) 19 Apr 2017 16:33:16
Valid point smit but defoe wasn't in decline as a player, just took a strange path (which made him England's forgotten man) that many thought was the wrong way for him to go.

Proved to be as well.

The Mancs would pay for his cab, most would drive him here themselves, fans often realise when somethings not right. If he's not good enough for them now why do we want him? Would that push TD down the pecking order? Maybe stop Dowell making the step up. There's more to taking in a 'name' or being sentimental because he's 'one of us'. Him coming people might feel obliged to play him that might impact development of the team.

Just my thoughts, I personally would rather use that money on someone with more years In front of them than behind them, we need depth for years to come, think we can survive without needing ageing players to fill the 'gap for now' mentality.

In 2 years would you rather need to replace Rooney or have invested in someone who is 26/27 and integrated into a team built to compete.

11.) 19 Apr 2017 18:36:56
I know where you're coming from but until were in the champs league we are going to have to beg steal and borrow the best talent we can and to have someone of Rooneys quality on a free transfer has to improve the squad and I feel he will. And if Rom does go we need players behind our new striker that can chip in with goals.

12.) 19 Apr 2017 22:43:51
But that's the problem, he will not be on a free. If What I read is correct, he has 2 years left at around 250k a week, That's what.26 mil?

Rooneys not going to walk away from that amount, so that's going to have to be paid, I'm sure United will not give him a 26 mil golden handshake. Any team taking him will be expected to meet what ever severance he is happy to accept.

Even OP said he was concerned about giving potentially 30 mil for him. And if that was the case with a 140k salary over 3 years we would be investing what could be 48 mil in someone with no sell on value and is showing signs of decline.

I don't think it's good business. I think building a younger team to challenge in the near future is the way forward personally.

13.) 19 Apr 2017 22:52:44
I can't get excited over a player that's hardly played a game all season, been in decline for the past two and will cost us around £22 mil in wages for three years at the wrong end of his career. He won't create new revenues and won't make sky show more games. He won't even play every week and a full 90 minutes most games. He isn't even half the player that left us.

Take his name away and it's not such an appealing purchase.

William Jose does. Brahimi does. Gilfi does. Your Schneiderlin does. Lookman does. Gana does. An over the hill reserve player just doesn't fit in that group.

However, I get that people want romance or bromance and want him back. Just don't try and wrap it up as football related. It's because he was a blue. The insane part of my brain kind of agrees with you but my belief we are past the days of Gazza, Ginola and others we've had over the years brings me back to reality.

I want us to be like Barca, Madrid, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, City and other top clubs buying quality in-form players: not hoping we can reignite the career of some relic of the past.

14.) 20 Apr 2017 09:32:15
Getting Rooney would attract players. Very much like Robiniho did for city. It would put us on the map. He is world renowned and hopefuly help with the Europa league. If the price is right it's surely a no brainer!

15.) 20 Apr 2017 14:20:29
Rooney will be costly in respect of a transfer fee and wages, however he will bring experience to the squad.
Most aging players will not want to be sat on the bench hence he wants to leave Utd, so he will want assurances about his game time, who gives way etc is the question, also unlike buying and up and coming player you can develop further like Rom, you will not make anything from him in the future when he calls it a day!



15 Jan 2017 15:30:01
What a fantastic result today. Congratulations to the whole team who put in a really solid performance of teamwork and composure.

Also, i was made up by the attitude of Rom today. When young Lookman was about to come on, Rom was straight over to the sidelines and looked to be giving him a warm welcome, and when he scored, Rom seemed genuinely pleased for the lad, really congratulating him. Has he taken him under his wing so to say. Anyway, i thought i would bring this up because he doesn't always seem keen to work for the team but this was especially praise worthy.


1.) 15 Jan 2017 17:14:11
Read an interview with lookman and he pretty much said Rom had been brilliant with him and has made him really welcome



10 Jan 2017 19:24:42
Hi all,
A couple of questions if anybody can help out.

So we can all see Niasse is an apparent flop, does anybody know why exactly? I have barely seen him play to make a personal judgement and he came with a very high reputation from the Russian league. Is it a case that during training he is absolutely awful and not worthy of a chance, a bad attitude or that he wants to do a Bosnich. coast along without ever trying just to cash his salary?

Also, Is there any possibility of us making a move for Batshuayi? Again I've not seen much of him but i like the game time I've seen, he seems a creative player with a good eye for goal and is young enough to develop immensely. I just think that he is the perfect replacement for Rom when he almost certainly moves on.


{Ed002's Note - I have no idea why Niasse has not done well although to be fair it took him time to settle at Lokomotiv Moscow. Everton has never shown any interest in Batshuayi.}

1.) 10 Jan 2017 19:45:08
Thanks Ed002, you're a star! Always seem to reply.

I'm actually secretly hoping that he needs to get used to the Prem, and that this move to Hull gets him enough game time we can all make a real judgement. I know its remote but he may surprise us

{Ed002's Note - He has not really had a run of games and the move may well do him good.}

2.) 10 Jan 2017 20:31:36
To pay out 13.5 if a true figure and given our known caution, someone must have watched him and not just once. Not one for conspiracies or secrets but Martinez reluctant to use him and Koeman not at all, does wonder make. I also wish the lad luck, perhaps Unsy could spread the light.



03 Aug 2016 20:23:35
Holgate looks a promising player, confident and tactically aware so far. With ageing and development he could be a solid defender.
I like the formation of 3 cbs and 2 wing backs, i feel it could be a succesful set up. I now see that our defensive targets aren't necessarily Stones replacement if this is how Koeman intends to play.




20 Jul 2016 23:01:01
So looks like Walsh is our DofF, how about everyones honest thoughts?
Personally i'm not too sure, he did a great job last year in identifying Mahrez, Kante and Okazaki (deliberately leaving out Vardy as i hate the fella) , but prior to that what success did he have? i'm not being sarcastic there, i genuinely don't know how successful he was in earlier career.
I can't help wondering if all the pieces fell into place in one magical moment and those players turned out to be gems, rather than having the proven consistency of Sevilla's Monchi.
I genuinely hope he is a great addition to this wonderful clubs staff, but some impartial input from Eds or people with better insight would be appreciated.

On a side note, i read in the rags about us chasing Koulibaly which has been much gossiped about on here, but had to laugh at the quoted fee - £30 mil. Surely he will cost an extra 50% on that.

Take care all.


{Ed003's Note - Vardy was sought after by several clubs so no praise should be given there,that's all I have to add.}

1.) 21 Jul 2016 06:42:39
I'm not entirely sure how having a DoF will work out, it's not something we have done before, but I have faith in Moshiri et al to restructure the club to our benefit. With regards to Walsh, I believe he was pretty successful at Chelsea identifying players like Drogba and Essien. Not too certain how well known them two players were at that time though.

2.) 21 Jul 2016 09:19:10
He has found both hidden gems and also successful big signings as well, he identified both Drogba and Zola whilst at Chelsea and was part of Newcastle when everyone was raving about their recruitment.
He was and is extremely highly thought of by most in the game.
Koeman has always worked with a DoF so this is not a short term plan this is getting the best available manager we could attract and also doing the same with the sporting director role.
Personally if that is all we do this summer apart from a keeper then I am happy with that and the direction the club is going.

3.) 21 Jul 2016 12:14:42
Totally agree with your last paragraph Svenny.




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31 Aug 2016 10:30:13
I think desperation is creeping in with Newcastle selling Sissoko. Willing to accept 5 installments of 6mil and making this news public seems like a last ditch effort to get offers in.
Is there a possibility that Benitez want on a crazy spending spree assuring the board he would balance the books a little by selling Sissoko? He always seemed like a manager who loves to buy tonnes of players and i think he was sure he could play hardball and demand 30mil after the Euro's performances. I have a feeling a move will happen somewhere but at a much lower price.




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30 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Thanks Ed, i had no idea Jack asked for the move. I assumed it was a club choice due to not playing plus being stacked in that position. He must be confident he is going to stay fit this year if he wants to move for regular game time, else it just seems pointless asking to go.


{Ed025's Note - i think he feels he needs a break worcester and needs game time, he has not been getting that at arsenal plus a lot of his problems have been personal ones created by the crowd he knocks around with, the smoking and drinking issues has seen him fall lout with the hierarchy at the emirates and a move away seems the logical solution mate..



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21 Jun 2016 14:52:23
I would hate us to take 40mil for Rom as i think in a couple of years he could be worth so much more, but at present time it does sound a realistic price given his mixed form.
It is a profit on him though and he certainly helped us out with his goals so in the overall picture he was a great signing for the club.
As I've mentioned before though, could we replace him with anyone better? I think we should go all out for Breel Embolo, he reminds me so much of Rom, young strong and confident. With a little patience and development i think he'll be a real star.




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02 Feb 2016 00:46:26
Dear Swan. How on earth can you slate Barkley and McCarthy? 2 of our most important players in my opinion! Next you'll be wanting rid of Lukaku or Deulofeu - "Oooh we've been offered a bag of peanuts, i'll drive them there myself", - a familiar barb eh. Show some support for us for once will you!




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31 Aug 2015 23:25:33
@Lance Link. why are you always so obsessed with these financial dealings? loans taken, 'missing' funds from years ago etc. Businesses from time to time need to free up money, and with guaranteed income coming in, why not tap into it a year early. It doesn't harm the club to do this, and i'm sure whatever the reason is, it makes sense. It seems to me that you're full of negativity about my beloved Everton and quite frankly you're the kind of fan we could do without. I bet you're itching to start some campaign or go on a demo to criticise us, and it just makes us look like a laughing stock (ie the 20 something fans staging a protest a couple of weeks ago, whittled down to just 7 fans after a smattering of rain) If this is the best a splinter group can muster up then get a grip and realise you're not the voice of the fans, just a pain in the ass.





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18 May 2017 22:15:59
What a disgraceful post! Yes Rom wants to move to a bigger club but he's not a local boy, he never came through our ranks and he doesn't have any particular affinity to Everton, he is doing nothing wrong by wanting to test himself at the highest level. His contribution to us over the years has been invaluable and we stand to make a very tidy profit. To cheer on a player from another club just out of spite is disgusting for a real fan, you don't deserve to wear the royal blue!
For an accolade that is quite an achievement for our beloved club to be associated with, we should be cheering Rom to go out on a high and take the golden boot!




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16 May 2017 01:25:09
I think Giroud would be an excellent signing for us! I've always liked him since he joined Arsenal and always wondered why their fans just didn't take to him. Unfortunately i see him heading back to France, Montpellier or possibly Marseille. He doesn't look too happy here now, maybe under appreciated, and let's be honest Merseyside is a lot less desirable to live in than France.
His European experience would be a huge asset to us next season, and it could even tempt someone like Walcott to follow (if he's surplus to requirements and if we'd even be interested)




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03 May 2017 20:13:23
I think he was a worthwhile signing. At the time of signing we didn't have a great deal of options, no enticements to attract the real top drawer players and we needed to bring in some solid Premier League experience to stop the influx of goals against us last season.

Yes we all knew time was not on his side, but as a consistent performer for Swansea and on the back of a very impressive Euro's campaign for Wales, nobody can deny that they were happy to bring him to Goodison. There were a lot of fans from a wide range of teams who, at the time, would definitely have welcomed him to their team. Considering that, Koeman made the sensible decision that he could benefit us.

Over the season i believe he has had a few inconsistent games, a few howlers, and definitely some moments of madness that have cost us dearly, and due to this i wouldn't be at all surprised to see him replaced. But to give him his due, he has also had games where he has been rock solid and really given 100% effort to ensure clean sheets, which we've had plenty of this year. I in no way doubt his desire to do his best for the team which is admirable.

On balance, we have been better with him. Apart from perhaps Holgate who is a revelation, he is clearly our best CB. Until we can attract the higher quality we need then i think he deserves a place in the team. A small stepping stone on the road to improvement yes, but improvement nonetheless.




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10 Jan 2017 19:45:08
Thanks Ed002, you're a star! Always seem to reply.

I'm actually secretly hoping that he needs to get used to the Prem, and that this move to Hull gets him enough game time we can all make a real judgement. I know its remote but he may surprise us


{Ed002's Note - He has not really had a run of games and the move may well do him good.}



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31 Aug 2016 14:55:44
Fair play that was funny!