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22 Jun 2017 22:14:41
Evening fellow Evertonians.

I want to state i am not ITK so i tentatively share this information to ponder. It's just some chatter I've heard and could be way off the mark.

Barkley wants a move to a bigger club BUT would happily take a move to almost any club in London, it seems he just wants to relocate to the capital more than anything.

The bigger news i have is that further transfers may actually be put on hold for the time being. It seems that anticipated outgoings are not coming to fruition and if we continue to line up deals we will end up with a bloated squad that has cost a lot of money.

Yes its early days and the window has yet to open, but it was thought a bid would come for Barkley which now looks unlikely, and there is growing thought that Lukaku may actually end up staying. It stems from so many high quality forwards rumoured to be moving that teams could very well swerve a big money move for Rom in favour of equally quality players.

The sudden interest in Lewandowski, although quickly put to bed, apparently made us think that Chelsea are not as keen as first thought and may very well be working on other options instead. It could run late in the window to be decided and we can't splash out on a pricey forward if Rom ends up staying.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 22 Jun 2017 23:36:03
The board are not stupid enough to overspend, they will continue with their targets, this is big business all aspects will have been carefully considered that we are obviously not party to, I remember Koeman saying there would be a statement on Ross B for example which never materialised .
This is pure conjecture on your part and not the reality.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 23:37:18
We have spent roughly 55 million so far.

Bear in mind that we actually made money in the previous summer window.

With the TV money alone, we still have money left to spend, so why would we put signings on hold?

In regards to the bloated squad. Koeman came out even before the season finished and said that we will be recruiting heavily to cope with the extra games/ demands of european football.

With Conor Mc, Kone released and then McCarthy, Jags, Valencia, Del Boy, McGeady, Niasse all leaving (makes 8) , we have only gotten 2 replacements in so far.

Makes no sense at all. We have money to spend, regardless of whether Rom or Barkley stay. Which i highly doubt they will, and the Eds have already made us aware of this.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 23:43:57
I'm not so sure Barkley would be interested in a move to west ham, Fulham, palace or QPR so don't see much in that rumour. I am not ITK but what I do know is that if Lukaku was to stay RK, FM, BK, and SW would be made up.
The club would be stupid to start spending money they couldn't afford based on a possible bid coming in for a player and that is not how the club is being run.
We have money, not billions but enough to bank roll what we have bought so far. Our squad is still small and full of youngsters for a team who needs to compete in the Europa league as well as the prem and domestic cups.
I would take those rumours with a pinch of salt WorcesterEFC.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 23:57:34
Window hasn't actually opened yet. So bidding 18m for Brozovic was just a bluff then was it? Stop believing everything you read in the papers mate.


5.) 23 Jun 2017 11:18:45
@Woburnblue calm your attitude! This is something i heard people talking about today, nothing whatsoever to do with papers. I didn't say anything was a bluff. My understanding is its a re-evaluation until outgoings are clearer. Obviously higher quality signings are considered but we will not be spending 30 mil plus on strikers in the event we don't sell Lukaku!

I thought people would have the common sense to understand i meant attack rather than whole squad but it appears some people are either too literal or itching to slag things off at the first opportunity.

@JMW1878 I don't think you have a grasp of things, just because we made money in previous window and had an influx of cash from tv rights etc, does not mean we can go out and spend it all. The club is looking to buy big, but these players do not come to sit on the bench, and the club does not invest in numerous high value signings to fill the squad without playing.

The likes of Dembele and Bacca etc will not be actively pursued if there is the possibility of not getting a Lukaku sale. You list 8 players "all leaving" but my understanding is there is little interest and at least 4 of those you named could very well still be at the club come end of transfer window.

@Smit666 another literal view of my comment. Maybe i should have said EPL teams to make it easier for you to understand. Use some common sense that i didn't mean Fulham or QPR! But i am of the understanding that he actually would consider West Ham and Palace.


6.) 23 Jun 2017 11:49:09
it's obvious ross has been tapped up by spurs at least a year ago or is it big players within the team reminding every good player we have what a small insignificant club we are but you would think ross (jeffers) barkley would be happy to just come out and say what he wants no fans would hold a grudge if he wanted to try something new in his life especially with his recent troubles. his silence speaks volumes he is not waiting for a move to the capital he is waiting to move to spurs despite the rhetoric coming out of WHL franny i mean ross may just panic and sign for arsenal. what a time to leave tho ross when we are building for the future and the way levy runs spurs you can bet most of the best players in that team will leave within 2 years for better pay and teams maybe you should have taken more stock of players in similar positions in the past.


7.) 23 Jun 2017 13:23:35
As I said the window is not open yet, it has nothing to do with who we sell or buy. People have just got carried away with early signings.


8.) 23 Jun 2017 13:34:46
If Ross would consider WH or Palace then he seriously lacks ambition and the move wouldn't make sense, they won't pay him more than what we have already offered so the move would be purely based on location which is just NUTS.


9.) 23 Jun 2017 15:54:50
I heard some people talking yesterday too and I'm not claiming to be ITK either, but they said those Asda white chocolate magnum copies are just as good as the real McCoy.


 

 

10 Jun 2017 17:01:09
So i heard a rumour a couple of weeks ago that we were interested in Chris Smalling, i dismissed it instantly as i just couldn't see that happening. However it seems Utd have tied up a deal for Lindelof so i have to ask, is it actually a possibility after all?

I have very differing opinons of Smalling at times, sometimes i think he's rock solid and other games he just seems a little average, but on balance i think he would be a pretty decent signing. A partnership of him and Holgate would be pretty solid i think and would definitely be an improvement on our ageing back line situation. You could also say it would potentially be the England national back line in future games if they bonded well.

If anybody has heard anything about this i'd love to know!?

WorcesterEFC

1.) 10 Jun 2017 22:10:14
Everton are after michael Keane. Lamos is back up.


2.) 11 Jun 2017 00:12:50
that's not what i asked jipster.


3.) 12 Jun 2017 12:16:28
Couldn't agree more, Worcester. Seen him look absolutely top quality one game and wobbly and below average the next, but that's symptomatic of a good player playing a little above his level who's not great dealing with 70,000 deluded united fans a week. Think could find his feet and get established with us, as long as he's not too much. Would happily say around £20m?


 

 

30 Aug 2016 21:11:16
Hi Blues

I know he is a controversial choice and many people don't rate him but i think Jack Wilshire could be worth a punt. I say this though only on certain terms which i don't even know if they would be possible.

We take him on the season long loan but with the following deal - a termination clause if he gets a serious injury. If there is a loan fee, this gets decreased in value if he misses a certain percentage of matches through injuries, so perhaps pay half in advance and the remainder based on the games he was available for throughout the season.

I am very dubious of his injury record but i am wondering if maybe he is not committed as much as he could be at Arsenal. He thinks he's a golden boy there but by being told he has to go on loan could give him a real kick up the ass that his future is on the line at last. He needs to perform well this year to either stay with Arsenal or at least become an attractive proposition for other teams he would want to join and so this season long loan could see him play to the best of his ability and whoever gets him could really benefit from this.

WorcesterEFC

{Ed025's Note - i cant see arsenal agreeing to that worcester, by the way it is jack that has asked to go on loan not arsenal mate..


1.) 30 Aug 2016 21:44:18
I had the same kind of feeling about Balotelli, try to get him on loan with a behaviour clause. All it takes is one gamble to pay off and it can gain you 10 points a season. PS I know Liverpool wouldn't do that but surely some players are worth a gamble. What's better? Paying £13.5m for Niasse?


2.) 31 Aug 2016 00:48:52
I think in most cases when someone on loan sustains an injury they return to the parent club for treatment depending on how serious of course.


3.) 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Thanks Ed, i had no idea Jack asked for the move. I assumed it was a club choice due to not playing plus being stacked in that position. He must be confident he is going to stay fit this year if he wants to move for regular game time, else it just seems pointless asking to go.

{Ed025's Note - i think he feels he needs a break worcester and needs game time, he has not been getting that at arsenal plus a lot of his problems have been personal ones created by the crowd he knocks around with, the smoking and drinking issues has seen him fall lout with the hierarchy at the emirates and a move away seems the logical solution mate..


 

 

18 Jun 2016 14:32:02
Hi all,
I have a friend who likes to claim he's "in the know", but personally i take it very much with a pinch of salt. we all know people who claim they're connected but can't back it up. I mostly ignore all of his so called info, but he did say something that for once sounds feasible.

Apparently RoKo is looking for a replacement for Barry, with Barry set to take a lesser game playing role in the team. His age now, and amount of bookings does to me make sense for the manager to be considering options.

It got me thinking about who is actually available, will it be a defensive midfield enforcer or someone with a touch more class to make attacking play happen? I can't actually think of a player who would add much to us as a team, at least not one who would consider us anyway, as let's face it we're never going to be signing the Iniestas of the game.

Anybody heard something similar or who has realistic options of who we could convince to join? Thanks as always.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 18 Jun 2016 16:17:05
wanyama frm southampton, good strong midfielder.


2.) 18 Jun 2016 17:21:52
Looks like he's set for splurs.


3.) 18 Jun 2016 18:18:24
You don't have to be in the know to see that it's pretty obvious Gareth Barry's getting on. Wanyama, Strootman, Erdevisie players we haven't heard of.


4.) 18 Jun 2016 18:30:13
Witsel far better player don't rate wanyama we need two good midfielders, keeper left sided winger and another striker two if Lukaka goes. My team ideally would be: Forster, Coleman, stones, mori, bainsey, delefoue, witsel, winjaldah, Brady, milik, Lukaka.


5.) 18 Jun 2016 18:40:14
We already have a player who could fit that role Worcester. It is not cast in stone but this player could be better in the midfield were his defensive mistakes would not be as much of a problem as in central defense and his desire to drive forward could be an advantage.


6.) 18 Jun 2016 18:51:42
its pretty obvious worcester, that barrys days are numbered.


 

 

18 Jul 2015 00:24:17
Hey all,
I heard a rumour that we were showing an interest in Nemanja Vidic, but now it seems Evans is our guy, (although there has been a lot of denials about wanting him). Does anyone know if the Vidic thing ever had legs or was it just someone teasing me?

Also it appears if we are offered 32m plus for Stones then we will do a deal. Very disappointing!

Finally, is there any further info regarding Ospina, Nathan Dyer, januzaj or even our tenuous link to Raul Meireles?

Thanks

WorcesterEFC

1.) 18 Jul 2015 09:53:47
I posted the rumour last week but believe it was a tentative enquiry


2.) 18 Jul 2015 19:08:10
If we allow stones to leave and replace him with evans then Martinez has clearly lost the plot.


3.) 22 Jul 2015 11:17:22
Mick626, doing that for me, would be an imminent sack-able offence. But he has said he has no interest in signing Evans.


 

 

 

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31 Jul 2017 19:38:26
Looks like Sig deal is not going to be done and i'm not overly bothered, technically, if form from Ajax is replicated, Klaassen can do just as good a job so for me it isn't a drama. We can reassess in Jan if need be.

Our priorites must absolutely be a goal scorer. Sandro looked bright and i feel is going to do well, but replacing Roms goals is a tough ask so we really need a solid target man or poacher who can consistently hit 15-20 goals. The 40m earmarked for Sig should get us a very decent forward. I would love Giroud but honestly see him staying at Arsenal if a move to France doesn't happen. Welbeck would be fab but injuries worry me and i doubt Arsenal would sell. Is it worthwhile taking a punt on an experienced (old) player who offers value and goals until the right man could be found? Obviously we haven't been linked but someone who could be available is Arjen Robben, but high wages and trying to get him to consider Everton would be tough. I really like the guy at Bilbao, Aritz Aduriz. Scary age at what 35? But last couple of years seems to be better than ever. Not ideal targets i know but right now i just can't see anybody who we can bring in for a long term future.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 31 Jul 2017 22:22:57
Would martial not fit the bill? Goalscorer, out of favour, not given a real chance as a number 9 striker, young to develop with us for a number of years, control is good aswell which we have missed having hungry hippo up front the last 3 seasons.

{Ed025's Note - very talented young man craig but has flaws in his personality a very poor work ethic and an attitude problem, thats why he is out of favour at utd and why we should stay well clear mate..


2.) 31 Jul 2017 22:49:54
As Ed says, it's the attitude. I imagine very expensive too. I think options are limited for a great team player who grafts. For the time being i would just be happy to get someone who can score on a regular basis because i think we have a hardworking midfield who will create opportunities. Pace and trickery would be nice of course but you can see why the likes of Defoe are still in demand at the tailend of their career, they score and that's the desired attribute.


3.) 31 Jul 2017 23:10:02
Sorry Worcester have to disagree, Gylfi would be ideal player for us. We still don't have anyone who can take a decent corner . This guys class. He has matured into a very good player since his days with Spurs, and that is what we're paying for.
He can control the tempo of a game, were as Klassen is drive forward type of player. Having Gylfi on one side and Klassen on the other would create a major headache for any team. Just need a big target man up top for him to aim at.
I for one hope this deal still happens.


4.) 01 Aug 2017 02:41:46
ive said before he would be a good addition if signed, but i just don't think he is needed, especially at the asking price. If Sig comes in then it's Tom D who will lose out on a regular basis and that's just a travesty, he earned his place last year and shouldn't have more competition put in his way now. We don't need him and that's the simple fact, we just want to add him because we can.


5.) 01 Aug 2017 06:36:50
Worcester that is a good plan but only if we want to stay in 7th for the rest of eternity. To challenge the top 4 we need proven quality which is what siggurdson is. Tom D is the man for a few years down the line or will be a good squad player now.


6.) 01 Aug 2017 10:09:25
Disagree about Davis He will need regular football to improve I would expect if we signed Sig then his game time would be severely limited so would his development. I see EFC as being in a transitional stage we have a lot of good English youngsters that need development being in Europe will aide that as I expect them to get more game time. We had a strong season and hopefully will build on that but as long as we keep progressing I am not too bothered if we don't make the top 4 this season. An aspiration yes but not a bench mark for failure. It took Spuds a long time to break up top 4 cartel I think some need a little more patience if we are to be a force for the foreseeable future another 2 or 3 seasons at least. COYB.


7.) 01 Aug 2017 16:10:49
What you talking about smit? With our improvements already, we can push for 5th or 6th, maybe squeak 4th. Tom D is not the finished article by any means but to stop him getting game time because he's the man for a few years time is crazy. He needs to play to develop. If we keep signing players who block his path then it will only be a matter of time before he wants out.
I keep saying that i agree Sig would be a good addition if signed but why can't people see that he is not needed? We have Rooney, Klaassen, Schneiderlin, Gueye, Tom D, Lookman, Bolasie, Barry, Mirralas. that's 9 players for limited spots and i'm not counting the likes of McCarthy, Besic, Calvert-Lewin.
Someone said we need him because we can't take a decent corner. Firstly Rooney can. 2nd, if a team pays 50m for a corner taker then its just insanity.
I just think, like my original post said, we should be looking to add a striker and perhaps another cb before looking to spend more crazy money in midfield.


8.) 01 Aug 2017 18:16:04
Klassen is more likely to limit Toms game time not Siggurdson. Siggurdson will most likely rotate with Rooney, Barkley if he stays and mirallas. With Europa league Tom will most likely get 15-20 games this season and that is fine for any young lad.
If we get injuries to Rooney, mirallas or even Klassen we will need a deep squad.


9.) 01 Aug 2017 18:24:01
My point exactly Smit.


10.) 01 Aug 2017 19:07:26
You said nothing of the sort Woburnblue.

I do see your point to an extent Smit, 20 games for Tom would be fair, but personally i just don't see the need at 50m. If he was half that price then I'd be all for signing him but such a high price just signals bad business to me when we need to invest in a forward more importantly.


11.) 01 Aug 2017 19:30:43
Having Rooney take corners is insane. We have bought him in for his goals, siggurdson for his assists. It would make sense for him to take corners or Baines and Bolasie.


12.) 01 Aug 2017 20:14:06
They will all get a clutch of games Worcester. With a possibility of over 50 games we need them. The Thursday and sunday games will take it out of them especially Rooney and siggurdson can play that position.


13.) 01 Aug 2017 22:06:50
There's nothing insane about Rooney taking corners, it's something he's often done throughout his career. The point of them is predominantly to get a big man targeted to head home, that's why defenders are always up there. Rooney is not someone who is known as a scorer of headed goals.


14.) 01 Aug 2017 23:06:14
Rooney will be lethal with a corner headed down to him in or around the box. Why waste that. Leave him to the odd free kick and let siggurdson and Baines stick it on the big mans head if we sign one.


 

 

09 Jul 2017 23:50:13
Just had a look around some of the other Rumour sites for teams in the top 6-8, fantastic reading for an hour if anybody has free time. I'm amazed how a couple of teams have such little interaction though, Arsenal and Spurs especially.

Felt the need to post this, on Man Utd page, although they acknowledge his decline in the last couple of years, they are saying some genuinely nice things about Rooney, his accolades and how he gave his all on the pitch, and wishing him success at "his spiritual home". i'm thoroughly impressed by the class these fans are showing in their comments towards a player who departed. Refreshing change in a time of slating players!

WorcesterEFC

 

 

06 Jul 2017 16:03:24
Why is everybody so desperate for Lukaku to leave? I know he has said some annoying things about the club/ wanting to test himself at the highest level, but are we ever going to sign someone so prolific to replace him? There are glaring holes in his overall game but he's still a young lad learning his game and is going to improve vastly. I for one am going to be so envious watching him play for Man Utd (or Chelsea if they jump in with a bid too) . Imo the goals he scored and the huge fee we are receiving are things we should be grateful for, not giving him constant abuse like so many on here do. Good luck in your new chapter Rom!

Replacements, i like the look of Sandro but does anybody know if he's ready yet to stake a claim to be our number 1 forward or is he likely to be a slow integration to the team? I'd love Giroud but i just can't see him wanting to come, i always thought he'd prefer a move back to France. Fingers crossed on him joining. The question is, do we prefer Dembele or Giroud? I don't see us getting both because neither would be happy moving to us to sit on the bench.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 06 Jul 2017 16:38:20
He wants to leave. that's all there is to it
Get the best deal we can and find the best replacement we can - someone that wants to play for the club.


2.) 06 Jul 2017 16:39:20
Never gave Lukaku abuse but never held back from saying I want him to go. Especially this last 6 months. I just think at this stage it is best for all involved.

Have praised Lukaku and rightly so. He got is plenty of goals. Still I'm not totally convinced he will be the big star everyone is expecting him to be at Utd or Chelsea. Whichever is his next club.

What I'm am certain on is he couldn't of been treated any better at Everton. I'm not talking about him disrespecting the club here. I'm talking about purely football terms and his development.

He was guaranteed starter with Martinez and Koeman. Our style of play, formation everything suited Lukaku and he was catered for any way possible imo.

Will he get those luxuries at his next club? Imho not as much as he experienced at Everton. That's why there is a slight doubt with me that he won't go on to become the world class player he is touted to be.

For me its all good for the club. He done the business while here and made a handsome profit. He has the potential to improve whether or not it will actually happen is not certain imho.


 

 

20 Jun 2017 20:48:40
Hi all,
I have a question but it's not really about Everton, it's just i'm not too sure where i can ask it sorry.

So i was wondering, with the huge amounts of tv revenue and other prize money each team gets each year, does this mean we will never see the complete demise of a big club again?

A few years back the situation was the same in that, to break top 4 and make a title challenge, big spending was needed but was a gamble, if it backfired the club would slip down the league, get relegated and be burdened by huge costs that led to complete collapse. I think of Leeds, Blackburn, Portsmouth (and Newcastle, although they seemed on a better financial footing to deal with relegation) .

Nowadays though, it seems every team can splash £100 mil without batting an eyelid, knowing that next season even bigger amounts of revenue would be delivered, massive parachute payments are in place for relegation, and those big signings will generate good sales that will put the relegation teams head and shoulders above other Championship teams to make an almost instant return. I can't see how any current EPL team can implode so much to match the disasters of the past.

Essentially i'm asking, do you think finances have now made the game 'safe' for the current Premier League teams, with very few fairytale clubs, such as Huddersfield and Blackpool etc, ever able to join the elite?

WorcesterEFC

{Ed002's Note - I think you are likely correct in the short term. In the longer term there is still a plan that a number of "elite" clubs have to breakaway from their leagues and form a pan European league that would cause a restructuring. UEFA are aware of this and are trying very hard to keep control of matters and pander to these sides. It will be discussed again when the clubs meet in August.

It remains very much an on-going issue with regular discussions on the matter between a dozen or more clubs.

Without going in to too much detail: (a) A number of clubs take the opportunity to meet and discuss various issues including changes in rules, club versus country issues, television and other media rights, the power of UEFA, exploitation issues for new technology streams, etc.. The meetings were annually but now they happen two and sometimes three times a year. There was a meeting in December – where there was a discussion about the state of FIFA, the situation with UEFA and a so far unpublished claim from a retired referee that the result of a Champions League game was influenced by a third party. These discussions also always turn to the possibility and structure of a breakaway pan European league. Several are ex-G14 clubs, several are not, and some clubs decline involvement in such discussions. (b) The plan is that at some point a number of clubs would break away from their national leagues and UEFA. They accept that they would be banned from all existing club competition and the players would initially be banned from all FIFA competitions as well, but know that FIFA would be looking to negotiate in any case. It would be the end of UEFA in all probability and UEFA are very aware of this. It would also result in a restructuring of many of the national leagues. (c) The clubs would renegotiate their television and media rights, rights of distribution via other streams etc.. (d) It remains the greatest fear of UEFA and all major national authorities that one day this will happen – which has resulted in a counter-proposal being drafted by UEFA. (e) Timing wise, two very prominent clubs want it to happen as soon as possible (2018) and they have the support of a third club - but most are looking at 2022 being a good option. A few clubs are looking at 2025 to 2027 and I suspect that could end up as the reality.

There is a counter-proposal to the pan-European breakaway that has partially been backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin. This is an option to the breakaway as everyone now knows the reality of it. The proposal is to rename and change the format of the UEFA Champions League to make it an elite closed-shop pan-European league with a fixed number of teams – and these would be the same teams every year. It would then require the restructuring of the Europa League and the possible introduction of a lower-tier European competition. Although they have yet to flesh out the detail and there is now a major concern that the impetus for this is not coming from Europe, although one major Football Association has given their support and discussions have also been held with the leading clubs from England (Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal). The American backer, Stephen Ross of the Miami Dolphins, has requested a meeting with an extant group of sides considering the pan-European breakaway to discuss his proposals. They have yet to respond but having identified the source of much of the funding (and that raising a concern) will wish to discuss it between themselves first. However, UEFA are now considering yet another proposal that would see some places in the CL fixed (probably to previous winners) and then see it supplemented by Champions and second place sides each season. This complicates matters again as it means the re-introduction of a third competition or the significant restructuring of the EL. The plan being put to clubs is a summer/preseason tournament that will evolve in to a parallel league, and of course eventually in to a complete breakaway for these clubs. As a first step to all of this, UEFA have negotiated minor changes that will see the four entrants from England, Germany, Spain and Italy enter the existing Champions League group stages without any qualification beyond their National League position (so no entry to qualifying rounds). This has been agreed by the European Club Association but UEFA did not want to discuss it with the separate group of “elite” sides discussing the Pan European League (and that “elite” group includes three English sides) as they are aware they will get no more than a shrug and no long-term support.

If the proposal for a breakaway goes ahead, there is every likelihood that the big money from television, sponsorship etc. would go with a breakaway league. It would completely rupture the operations of UEFA and I would expect it would require national associations like the FA to restructure their leagues. Nobody wants this but it is the eventual consequence I would expect. Initially it could be that there is a single 16 team league with 2 or 3 EPL teams making the initial plunge. If I had to speculate, I would think (1) you might eventually see something like five or six EPL teams leave for two-tier pan European league - but it won't be based on the UEFA rankings; (2) the Premier League would be disbanded as an organisation; (3) the FA would restructure in to two 20 team divisions with lower leagues regionalised as they were many years ago; (4) FIFA would ban all players from the breakaway teams from International football - perhaps rescinding that position to stop FIFA breaking up as well - they don't want further issues but the troubles are not going to go away. I could also see many teams lose their professional status. I would think we are probably 10 years away from any significant move at this time.

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis.

A further counter proposal exists as a Chinese proposal from the Dalian Wanda Group proposes to open up the lucrative Chinese and Far Eastern media markets by extending the league to include Chinese and Southa American clubs. This has yet to be discussed by the "elite" sides as a group although the proposals have been presented to a number of them already on an individual basis. The proposals are very broad-based and lack detail - their selling point is significant additional income for the "elite".}


1.) 20 Jun 2017 21:26:50
Ed, fantastic information, albeit gut wrenching. ultimately it sounds like the death of football as we all know it, and certainly looks like it would completely change the sport, and the support, which has always been largely governed by the local area you grew up in, and/ or the people who have influence on you ( friends/ family) . If what your saying comes to fruition it could literally kill myself support for the game.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 22:16:51
I think the league your talking about Ed, will finish football off for me personally. I would cut off completely it makes me sick to the core knowing this breakaway 'elite' league is being seriously talked about. There's never been a fair enough playing field in football in my lifetime (born in 96) but this elite league that would only allow certain clubs would be the tipping point. What's your thoughts ed?

{Ed002's Note - The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 10 to 12 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, Stamford Bridge etc.. You will have the opportunity to visit Milan, Barcelona, Monaco, etc. every couple of weeks to watch your team play - if they make the cut. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match, perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them?

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroot sports get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting there finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good. Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as ameteurs or face extinction (yet again). A possible option might result from a potential landmark decision that UEFA must make in June or July - and that could facilitate the ownership of of lower-tier sides by the more senior sides and then work as a feeder club.}


3.) 20 Jun 2017 22:46:53
If the breakaway was to happen, I feel that the best option would be a British league. This would improve grassroots football in Ireland, Wales and Scotland.


4.) 20 Jun 2017 23:48:54
Thank you very much for the excellent reply Ed002!

Personally i like the idea of restructuring European competitions rather than leagues but ultimately i think we all know which way it is heading. I really believe that a breakaway league should have at least 2 divisions, creating the excitement and pain of promotion and relegation, there's certainly enough 'big' teams to accommodate 2 divisions of 20 teams each, but i fear the clubs pushing for it would be dead against any chance of losing their place at the top and so will push for 1 division only.

It's such a shame to imagine the loss of so many local teams, such as Worcester, but teams like this are already struggling to stay in existence and there's absolutely no way further redistribution of funds will in any way help. Really interesting idea though about creating feeder clubs which would help a few. Also, the death knell of the historic F. A. Cup would be sad to see but no lower tier sides to create the magic gives little choice.

I certainly understand the glamour for clubs involved, welcoming the global elite to your ground every other week, and the opportunity to watch these matches is a mouthwatering idea as a football fan, and there's no doubting that viewing figures for televised games would be astronomical.

Merging the English and Scottish league would be great, an end to the dominance of Celtic/ Rangers, and an away trip for Everton to Ibrox every season is something i will 100% be excited to be a part of, so there's always an upside.

One question i wonder though, if one of the teams pushing for the breakaway league, let's say Arsenal, end up taking a turn for the worse over the next 7 or so years, sliding to mid table at best or perhaps even relegation, then would this impact on them getting the spot? As a team pushing for it, a 'founder', being a global brand and achieving constant European football, i can see why they would be involved, but if they slip to become a lesser team then surely they won't be wanted. Are the spots in the league up for review or are they more or less figured out already?

{Ed002's Note - The clubs are all commited and an off season would not change anything. Right now there is a group of sides that would certainly be the starting point.}


5.) 20 Jun 2017 23:57:36
Wow ed, what a response that is! Really interesting read.


6.) 21 Jun 2017 12:43:15
RIP football.


7.) 21 Jun 2017 10:38:46
Great info ED. Looks to me like the adoption of a NFL/ Super rugby type format they seriously need to consider non relegation though as it would mean any team not within the top of the table towards the end of he season would have nothing to play for so their games would become irrelevant to them in essence a friendly. This is starting to happen in super rugby and has been going on for years in he NFL. Will be interesting to see what actually happens.


8.) 21 Jun 2017 11:37:11
Jeez ED. Its another step towards the Americanisation of the sport. Clubs will be richer but fans will not enjoy it. It will be strange because fans of clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Man UTD etc are used to seeing their clubs win titles in their domestic leagues now they will have to get used to seeing their club finish mid table.

As a result you may find that the best supported team in England could be Real or Barcelona perhaps as English fans who do not support any of the breakaway English teams would pick a foreign team to support instead. Chelsea may end up having more fans in Spain than England as Spanish non Real or Barcelona fans will also prefer to support a foreign team. Teams will become global and lose their grass roots identity.


 

 

13 Jun 2017 19:40:16
Pickford is the choice we wanted then, but i confess I'm a little disappointed. I genuinely hope he is as good as the talk of highly promising career suggests, but for me there are too many unanswered questions.

I believe a keeper at a relegation team often stands out because of the sheer volume of action they're involved in every game. How will he perform in games where he see's much less action? Is his concentration level high enough to do almost nothing but still be alert and ready for a 70th minute counter attack or a shot out of the blue?
How does he react to an expectation of having to keep a clean sheet every game, rather than knowing at Sunderland goals were inevitable and keeping it below 3 was acceptable?
Is he really experienced enough for European football? - the differing styles of play compared to EPL, some god awful grounds such as in Ukraine etc.
Also, how many players have we seen with first season syndrome where they look like rockstars but then can't repeat it again? Michu springs to mind here as a prime example.

Again, i wish him nothing but tremendous success, but i would much prefer proven experience from Butland or Foster than the possibility of someone who could be great but needs to prove it.

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1.) 13 Jun 2017 21:01:48
Totally gobsmacked! We've just bought the best young keeper in the Premier . Likely to be our number 1 for years. 😍.


2.) 13 Jun 2017 21:19:32
Have to disagree Woburn, he's a decent keeper, but for me, Butland is where are money should have been spent and he's only a year older than Pickford.


3.) 13 Jun 2017 21:25:46
Sorry Worcester but I don't agree with any of your concerns. He's coming to Everton not Barcelona. Going on about concentration levels for the 70th minute and not conceeding more than 2 goals a game but expected to keep a clean sheet. He's a fantastic keeper already, with one season under his belt. Unless he loses the plot or money goes to his head he's only going to get better and better. Some people like Barkley needs constant mothering and telling off like a naughty kid. Pickford has played every international level and I believe to be a true professional. I was excited over the other 4 main targets but Pickford really did get me excited. She don't know it yet but the missus won't be reading her book tonight 😉.
I've never understood why clubs hate paying out for goalkeepers. To me they are the most important player on the pitch. If you got a top goal scorer but a keeper that let's everything in you're going to lose. Whereas if your keeper is world class but the team is struggling to score you're now expecting a point.
Pickford will be worldclass. And all these morons saying De Gea cost less than 20 million so now must be worth 90 million because of Pickford is talking utter shite.

Looking forward to the new season. Going to be our best one yet.


4.) 13 Jun 2017 23:11:21
Sorry Bullens but what has Butland done exactly?


5.) 13 Jun 2017 23:44:19
Happy with Pickford we are building a team of young exciting players, been a long time coming.


6.) 14 Jun 2017 00:16:51
He is reliable a good shot stopper quick of his line, easily the best keeper in the prem for my money and England's number one by a distance.
He also is good with his feet and commands his area.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2017 21:34:03
An area of the pitch you need pace? For real? His job is, and always was, to break up the flow of opposition midfield, stop their forward breaks and keep our line steady. He's a defensive enforcer in my view, someone who always puts his body on the line to make the defence job a little easier. Yes he gets a lot of bookings but because he is brave in any situation and knows the tactical advantage of when committing a foul is more of a benefit to the team. I think he would have been a real asset for us in the last half hour of any game where we are under pressure and need to stop such attacking threats. I wil miss him and wish him nothing but the best at West Brom.

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13 Aug 2017 00:23:25
He is not premier league quality at all. i'm not surprised you forget this because he was pathetic when he had his chance at both West Brom and Leicester. He is another Jordan Rhodes, great in the Championship but will not succeed in the top division. If anybody honestly wants to say they think he is an adequate replacement for Lukaku then i'm baffled. I think far too many on here just want us to spend for the sake of it, and a select few just like to argue against any point made because you like the drama. I maintain my stance that signing players of the quality of Woods is something that would see us move backwards in the league!

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12 Aug 2017 00:31:37
Height of ambition there.

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11 Aug 2017 15:37:53
I liked Neville. Was not a fan at all during his Utd days but when he came to us he showed nothing but passion and pride.

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15 Jul 2017 19:24:19
Thank you Ed! I'd be a very happy blue if we get him.

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17 Aug 2017 22:03:57
Are you watching the right guy? He's wearing blue not grey because i can't see any other reason for your assessment of him. I tell you what though, if you've seen better non league players than him tonight then we should sign them up, i'd love to get the names of them so i can check them out.

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13 Aug 2017 18:41:51
I think in an attacking mid position just behind the striker 😂.

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13 Aug 2017 14:41:30
I agree ToffeeAl. He wasn't my first choice when we were looking for a new GK and i said the same about his concentration, can he do nothing for so long but still be alert and ready. i'm very happy to be proved wrong and he certainly looks to be a very solid aquisition.

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11 Aug 2017 21:25:08
I hate him more than i can express! I concede he certainly scires a few but there's just something about him that i really dislike.

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08 Aug 2017 19:04:05
I think some of you are missing the point, it's not necessarily saying we need a 20 goal a season striker, just a striker who will score a decent amount. How many did the rest of our players score last season? We just cannot allow a season where our highest scorer is on 6 goals. Its ok saying koeman wants to spread the goals out around the team but wanting it and it actually happening is another matter. We need a proven striker and anyone saying different is just being stubborn for the sake of arguing with posts on here.

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