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30 Aug 2017 23:30:06
So excited for tomorrows deadline, i'm sure we'll be one of the teams getting serious SSN coverage.

Linked to Watforfds Okaka i see and actually, I'm quite happy with this. He's been a little inconsistent but not really given a real chance. He's a solid beast of a man, tough and strong and i think he will be very usefull for hold up play. Strong 'bully' attributes too to get to goal which i like. Also, he definitely scores some fab goals (when he scores which isn't as often as i think he could) .

If he can step up to a more consistent level then he could be a real asset to the team! Imagine him putting in more of the performances like he did against Liverpool on opening day. Not a long term solution, and not the high profile we all hoped for, but certainly better than not getting anybody.

On a side note, what a great piece of business by West Brom in getting Krychowiak from PSG. They kept that quiet and i bet their fans are thrilled! How I'd have loved him to join us!


1.) 31 Aug 2017 10:17:09
I can't get over people who question certain players we are linked with. Just because they are not talked about in a fashionable manner.

Like Valencia last season everyone was saying lack of ambition bla bla bla.

Imho Valencia was good for us last season. Anytime he came on the team changed and the majority of the time improved. I'm not saying we should of signed him. The point is he done a job for us and quite effective at it too. Didn't get a deserved amount of praise imho.

Who's to say another won't come in and do the same or even better? Okaka may surprise some people if we get him. After all that's what Walsh is there for. Gana didn't excite too many people and look him now. Martina is improving already. Hope he proves his worth with time also.



22 Jun 2017 22:14:41
Evening fellow Evertonians.

I want to state i am not ITK so i tentatively share this information to ponder. It's just some chatter I've heard and could be way off the mark.

Barkley wants a move to a bigger club BUT would happily take a move to almost any club in London, it seems he just wants to relocate to the capital more than anything.

The bigger news i have is that further transfers may actually be put on hold for the time being. It seems that anticipated outgoings are not coming to fruition and if we continue to line up deals we will end up with a bloated squad that has cost a lot of money.

Yes its early days and the window has yet to open, but it was thought a bid would come for Barkley which now looks unlikely, and there is growing thought that Lukaku may actually end up staying. It stems from so many high quality forwards rumoured to be moving that teams could very well swerve a big money move for Rom in favour of equally quality players.

The sudden interest in Lewandowski, although quickly put to bed, apparently made us think that Chelsea are not as keen as first thought and may very well be working on other options instead. It could run late in the window to be decided and we can't splash out on a pricey forward if Rom ends up staying.


1.) 22 Jun 2017 23:36:03
The board are not stupid enough to overspend, they will continue with their targets, this is big business all aspects will have been carefully considered that we are obviously not party to, I remember Koeman saying there would be a statement on Ross B for example which never materialised .
This is pure conjecture on your part and not the reality.

2.) 22 Jun 2017 23:37:18
We have spent roughly 55 million so far.

Bear in mind that we actually made money in the previous summer window.

With the TV money alone, we still have money left to spend, so why would we put signings on hold?

In regards to the bloated squad. Koeman came out even before the season finished and said that we will be recruiting heavily to cope with the extra games/ demands of european football.

With Conor Mc, Kone released and then McCarthy, Jags, Valencia, Del Boy, McGeady, Niasse all leaving (makes 8) , we have only gotten 2 replacements in so far.

Makes no sense at all. We have money to spend, regardless of whether Rom or Barkley stay. Which i highly doubt they will, and the Eds have already made us aware of this.

3.) 22 Jun 2017 23:43:57
I'm not so sure Barkley would be interested in a move to west ham, Fulham, palace or QPR so don't see much in that rumour. I am not ITK but what I do know is that if Lukaku was to stay RK, FM, BK, and SW would be made up.
The club would be stupid to start spending money they couldn't afford based on a possible bid coming in for a player and that is not how the club is being run.
We have money, not billions but enough to bank roll what we have bought so far. Our squad is still small and full of youngsters for a team who needs to compete in the Europa league as well as the prem and domestic cups.
I would take those rumours with a pinch of salt WorcesterEFC.

4.) 22 Jun 2017 23:57:34
Window hasn't actually opened yet. So bidding 18m for Brozovic was just a bluff then was it? Stop believing everything you read in the papers mate.

5.) 23 Jun 2017 11:18:45
@Woburnblue calm your attitude! This is something i heard people talking about today, nothing whatsoever to do with papers. I didn't say anything was a bluff. My understanding is its a re-evaluation until outgoings are clearer. Obviously higher quality signings are considered but we will not be spending 30 mil plus on strikers in the event we don't sell Lukaku!

I thought people would have the common sense to understand i meant attack rather than whole squad but it appears some people are either too literal or itching to slag things off at the first opportunity.

@JMW1878 I don't think you have a grasp of things, just because we made money in previous window and had an influx of cash from tv rights etc, does not mean we can go out and spend it all. The club is looking to buy big, but these players do not come to sit on the bench, and the club does not invest in numerous high value signings to fill the squad without playing.

The likes of Dembele and Bacca etc will not be actively pursued if there is the possibility of not getting a Lukaku sale. You list 8 players "all leaving" but my understanding is there is little interest and at least 4 of those you named could very well still be at the club come end of transfer window.

@Smit666 another literal view of my comment. Maybe i should have said EPL teams to make it easier for you to understand. Use some common sense that i didn't mean Fulham or QPR! But i am of the understanding that he actually would consider West Ham and Palace.

6.) 23 Jun 2017 11:49:09
it's obvious ross has been tapped up by spurs at least a year ago or is it big players within the team reminding every good player we have what a small insignificant club we are but you would think ross (jeffers) barkley would be happy to just come out and say what he wants no fans would hold a grudge if he wanted to try something new in his life especially with his recent troubles. his silence speaks volumes he is not waiting for a move to the capital he is waiting to move to spurs despite the rhetoric coming out of WHL franny i mean ross may just panic and sign for arsenal. what a time to leave tho ross when we are building for the future and the way levy runs spurs you can bet most of the best players in that team will leave within 2 years for better pay and teams maybe you should have taken more stock of players in similar positions in the past.

7.) 23 Jun 2017 13:23:35
As I said the window is not open yet, it has nothing to do with who we sell or buy. People have just got carried away with early signings.

8.) 23 Jun 2017 13:34:46
If Ross would consider WH or Palace then he seriously lacks ambition and the move wouldn't make sense, they won't pay him more than what we have already offered so the move would be purely based on location which is just NUTS.

9.) 23 Jun 2017 15:54:50
I heard some people talking yesterday too and I'm not claiming to be ITK either, but they said those Asda white chocolate magnum copies are just as good as the real McCoy.



10 Jun 2017 17:01:09
So i heard a rumour a couple of weeks ago that we were interested in Chris Smalling, i dismissed it instantly as i just couldn't see that happening. However it seems Utd have tied up a deal for Lindelof so i have to ask, is it actually a possibility after all?

I have very differing opinons of Smalling at times, sometimes i think he's rock solid and other games he just seems a little average, but on balance i think he would be a pretty decent signing. A partnership of him and Holgate would be pretty solid i think and would definitely be an improvement on our ageing back line situation. You could also say it would potentially be the England national back line in future games if they bonded well.

If anybody has heard anything about this i'd love to know!?


1.) 10 Jun 2017 22:10:14
Everton are after michael Keane. Lamos is back up.

2.) 11 Jun 2017 00:12:50
that's not what i asked jipster.

3.) 12 Jun 2017 12:16:28
Couldn't agree more, Worcester. Seen him look absolutely top quality one game and wobbly and below average the next, but that's symptomatic of a good player playing a little above his level who's not great dealing with 70,000 deluded united fans a week. Think could find his feet and get established with us, as long as he's not too much. Would happily say around £20m?



30 Aug 2016 21:11:16
Hi Blues

I know he is a controversial choice and many people don't rate him but i think Jack Wilshire could be worth a punt. I say this though only on certain terms which i don't even know if they would be possible.

We take him on the season long loan but with the following deal - a termination clause if he gets a serious injury. If there is a loan fee, this gets decreased in value if he misses a certain percentage of matches through injuries, so perhaps pay half in advance and the remainder based on the games he was available for throughout the season.

I am very dubious of his injury record but i am wondering if maybe he is not committed as much as he could be at Arsenal. He thinks he's a golden boy there but by being told he has to go on loan could give him a real kick up the ass that his future is on the line at last. He needs to perform well this year to either stay with Arsenal or at least become an attractive proposition for other teams he would want to join and so this season long loan could see him play to the best of his ability and whoever gets him could really benefit from this.


{Ed025's Note - i cant see arsenal agreeing to that worcester, by the way it is jack that has asked to go on loan not arsenal mate..

1.) 30 Aug 2016 21:44:18
I had the same kind of feeling about Balotelli, try to get him on loan with a behaviour clause. All it takes is one gamble to pay off and it can gain you 10 points a season. PS I know Liverpool wouldn't do that but surely some players are worth a gamble. What's better? Paying £13.5m for Niasse?

2.) 31 Aug 2016 00:48:52
I think in most cases when someone on loan sustains an injury they return to the parent club for treatment depending on how serious of course.

3.) 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Thanks Ed, i had no idea Jack asked for the move. I assumed it was a club choice due to not playing plus being stacked in that position. He must be confident he is going to stay fit this year if he wants to move for regular game time, else it just seems pointless asking to go.

{Ed025's Note - i think he feels he needs a break worcester and needs game time, he has not been getting that at arsenal plus a lot of his problems have been personal ones created by the crowd he knocks around with, the smoking and drinking issues has seen him fall lout with the hierarchy at the emirates and a move away seems the logical solution mate..



18 Jun 2016 14:32:02
Hi all,
I have a friend who likes to claim he's "in the know", but personally i take it very much with a pinch of salt. we all know people who claim they're connected but can't back it up. I mostly ignore all of his so called info, but he did say something that for once sounds feasible.

Apparently RoKo is looking for a replacement for Barry, with Barry set to take a lesser game playing role in the team. His age now, and amount of bookings does to me make sense for the manager to be considering options.

It got me thinking about who is actually available, will it be a defensive midfield enforcer or someone with a touch more class to make attacking play happen? I can't actually think of a player who would add much to us as a team, at least not one who would consider us anyway, as let's face it we're never going to be signing the Iniestas of the game.

Anybody heard something similar or who has realistic options of who we could convince to join? Thanks as always.


1.) 18 Jun 2016 16:17:05
wanyama frm southampton, good strong midfielder.

2.) 18 Jun 2016 17:21:52
Looks like he's set for splurs.

3.) 18 Jun 2016 18:18:24
You don't have to be in the know to see that it's pretty obvious Gareth Barry's getting on. Wanyama, Strootman, Erdevisie players we haven't heard of.

4.) 18 Jun 2016 18:30:13
Witsel far better player don't rate wanyama we need two good midfielders, keeper left sided winger and another striker two if Lukaka goes. My team ideally would be: Forster, Coleman, stones, mori, bainsey, delefoue, witsel, winjaldah, Brady, milik, Lukaka.

5.) 18 Jun 2016 18:40:14
We already have a player who could fit that role Worcester. It is not cast in stone but this player could be better in the midfield were his defensive mistakes would not be as much of a problem as in central defense and his desire to drive forward could be an advantage.

6.) 18 Jun 2016 18:51:42
its pretty obvious worcester, that barrys days are numbered.




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23 Sep 2017 16:56:05
Niasse again, WOW. Who would have thought he'd be our saviour

I admit, i only thought he should be given a chance out of sheer desperation and i offer my genuine apologies for the smack I've said about him. Time for him to be given a real chance now, a fresh start in the eyes of all Evertonians.




22 Sep 2017 16:29:24
Just had a discussion with friends in work and thought it was interesting enough to debate on here.

We all know Champions League is the superior European competition to be in, but, what would be considered the better result. Man Utd won the Europa, or say Spurs who didn't get past the group stage in CL?

Naturally the best teams to play against and big money lies with CL but isn't winning Europa a bigger celebration?

Hypothetically, if you were told at the start of the season, Everton can play in CL but won't get out of the group, or can play Europa and will win the tournament, what would you prefer?

Personally it would be a dream to see us play against Barca, PSG etc but I'd be so depressed seeing us get spanked. To lift the Europa cup, albeit the second tier competition, would be my choice of options.


{Ed001's Note - surely there is no debate when winning the lesser trophy gives entry into the bigger trophy for the following season?}

1.) 22 Sep 2017 18:28:29
Winning a trophy. Every single time. For owners it's being in the competitions that pay the most but for fans and the club's prestige it's all about silverware. Winning trophies also breeds winning trophies and is more likely to be a springboard to success.

Whats the point in record books if you're never in it?

2.) 22 Sep 2017 18:43:41
Its a nice prize to aim for ed01, plus a glamour match of the super cup. Take away thoughts of qualification for the CL by winning and hypothetically just base it on whether its more appealing to play against Barca, Madrid and the likes or win a trophy?

{Ed001's Note - ah ok sorry. In that case surely the aim of sport is to win things? You have to go for the trophy imo.}

3.) 22 Sep 2017 18:50:59
Have to agree with Ed001.

4.) 23 Sep 2017 11:04:19
Worcester EFC, going along with your hypothesis, Everton need to get their act together, after losing 3-0 to an average side what does that make us.

5.) 23 Sep 2017 17:33:30
Wtf bigduncsmum. It was nothing to do with team performances or having a dig at the team. Either you're a troll who loves to constantly bitch about us or just an imbecile looking for an argument. I 100% guarantee you'll be posting crap about the club even though we got the result today!



20 Sep 2017 22:02:20
I am absolutely amazed that Niasse actually got on the pitch tonight. I know recently people have been saying to give him a chance, but Koeman was so vehement that Niasse would never feature for us. 15/ 16 months without sniff certainly backed that up. Was tonight a sign of desperation? Or did Koeman swallow his pride and give him a fair chance? Or has Niasse started to show he's worth being considered? Hopefully one day we'll all find out what went so drastically wrong for him to be ostracized because i still have no idea, crappy attitude or woeful?

Will he feature again any time soon is the big question.




19 Sep 2017 20:43:48
Why does everyone think we should be rotating the players against Sunderland, or bringing in youngsters who haven't played first team before?
This is the prime opportunity to get a morale boosting win, a good game for our new players to gel a little more, and a game where anything but a win is catastrophic for Koeman. We should field the full strength team intended for main use this season and put an end to this losing spree we're on. After form has turned around we can look to start giving others a run out in future rounds. Now is really not the time to put out a weakened team and risk making our start to the season even worse!


{Ed025's Note - fair point mate..

1.) 19 Sep 2017 21:27:58
Thank you ed. I'm all for giving youth a chance and it's great to see youngsters emerge, but right now we just need to turn this form around and get some confidence back within the team. Yes you could say rotation is needed for freshness but I'd say the performances of late cancel out a "rest day". If we can win tomorrow and again at the weekend, i think we'll see a much livelier performance come our Europa match. One win sparks the revival i hope.

2.) 19 Sep 2017 23:03:28
I agree, normally I would like to see a few changes but this is a game we can't loose, we need some confidence going into the game with Bournemouth as they are no mugs, clean sheet would be good as well, confidence is one thing money can't buy.
An early goal would be nice to get fans onside otherwise if it gets to 30/ 40mins the crowd will get nervous.

3.) 20 Sep 2017 09:41:58
For me bringing in some of the young lads and changing the team for the Sunderland fixture is solely to freshen up the team I know a settled side is the ideal but it looks to me like some of the players are not in form. IMO we also have a problem with movement and are too narrow at times. I would only give Kenny a go and the rest of the players I would pick on form the only other risk would be to move Holgate to CD and play him with Keane but if neither are comfortable on the left then you would have to play Jags or Williams. A back 3 with wing backs just dosen't seem to be working with our personnel. I also think 4-3-3 with two DM is both too narrow and too defensive with our squad. I would prefer to see a 4-4-2 or a 4-4-1-1 but against Sunderland a 4-4-2. I understand your point Worcester about too many changes and the focus on winning the game but I think we do need to pick form players and put them in their best positions which I don't think is happening at the moment.

4.) 20 Sep 2017 17:10:38
worcester the reason why we need to change mate is because its not working, players out of position tactics wrong no balance and no pace that side won't get consistency its all wrong, kenny has had a first team oppurtunity as has lookman and niasse deserves a chance without a doubt, changes is a must for me.

5.) 20 Sep 2017 19:16:09
Bringing in Lookman isn't something i meant by not changing. And nobody would say not to try Kenny, looked very very impressive in the summer and Williams has been dire. My point was that we shouldn't be bringing in Lennon, Niasse etc. Our confidence is shot already so this game is where players can step up and show why they are No 1 picks, they need to be the ones who change the form so that moving forward they know its in them to win. If we weaken our team and lose this game then i honestly believe the whole of Evertons supporters will be in open revolt so stick with our best. As for it not working so far, We beat Stoke, we drew with city so it does work. Its purely confidence after the dreadful fixture run and rotation won't help in the slightest with rectifying that.



14 Sep 2017 20:33:48
Well that was absolutely gut-wrenching to watch tonight. So glad that Lyon didn't get the win otherwise I'd be worried about progression prospects. No need to highlight how bad because it was simply every aspect of our game. At least Koeman had the balls to admit his part in this atrocity and i honestly believe he'll turn it around. He's still 100% the right man for us in my eyes.

So for the select few supporters (you know who you are) who kept stating we didn't need to worry about replacing Lukaku because we'd get more goals throughout our team, how do you feel now? It was so obvious we needed a solid goalscorer, and i can't wait for the Jan window to address this, even with just a short term solution. Until then does anyone have any realistic ideas? Mine would be to play Mirallas up front. He has played and performed as a CF in the past. His attitude is a clear concern but i do think he'd score a few. The only other suggestion, very risky but surely worth a try, is to give Klaassen a shot in attack. We overspent on number 10s that we can't accomodate in the same game, so Klaassen could be the front man with Sig and Rooney behind. He has shown he has an eye for goal with an impressive tally last year, and we know he can time his runs well. I think he'd be an option and then not a 30 million benchwarmer.

Please can everybody not jump to the "Koeman out" scenario. It's still very early days. I think, deep down, we all knew the sequence of league defeats was a distinct possibility and shouldn't be reflective of what we can achieve. Yes tonights result hurts, i honestly thought tonight would be the bright spot in a harsh run of games, but with 5 more games to try and qualify, we should back the team more than ever!


1.) 14 Sep 2017 20:50:58
Agree re not panicking about the group because we have five games left, my concern is more confidence of the back of an aggregate 6-0 which could have been 12-0. Points total so far in the league is probably about right given the fixtures, but concerned about the lack of improvement.

It's not so much about the overloaded midfield either, more that we looked so off the pace for the second time in a week.

The good times aren't far away with the investment and new stadium, but today is a bad day.

{Ed025's Note - im afraid the good times look miles away for me windsor, the stadium will be no use in the championship mate and thats what we looked like today..

2.) 14 Sep 2017 20:51:57
Agree with that 100 percent Worcester mate, but it was bad.

3.) 14 Sep 2017 21:19:13
The worrying things are Baines? He didn't seem bothered. Keane looked like he had an off game, siggurdson half a yard off pace which is kind of understandable. Schneidelin should have been running round like a mad man considering. Steklenburg looked good. Vlasic looked lively but needs time on the training ground. Holgate and DCL looked ok. We can all bitch about needing a big man up front but that is not going to help if the 9 men behind him can't get hold of the ball.

4.) 14 Sep 2017 21:52:21
I generally consider myself a moderate guy. I don't get too riled up by much but that performance was embarrassing to watch. You could see after the first 40 mins Atalanta lost interest in the game because they knew we posed 0 threat.

The worrying thing for me lately are the performances.

We just look dire every game. Our defense melts away at the sight of any kind of pace or aggression, we signed 45 midfielders over the summer but they might as well not be on the pitch because the ball gets lumped up to our (often lone) striker who can't keep hold of the ball and then it just keeps coming back at our defense. That process just goes on rinse and repeat.

The worst part of it all is that Koeman doesn't seem to look like he knows how to fix any of these issues. You assume if he did he would have communicated this to the players. Every game though it's the same mistakes.

Yes, we had a tough run of fixtures but if we played the way we played tonight against most championship teams we would have been hammered.

{Ed025's Note - i have to agree CT..

5.) 14 Sep 2017 21:59:29
Smit it is completely about the big man upfront. There needs to be a focus for the midfield to play towards instead of sideways/ backwards passing. Plus confidence of goals will help the whole team step up their game.

Windsor, i wasn't saying overloaded midfield, more overloaded number 10s. Rooney, Sig, Klaassen, how many players did we really need for the role, never mind the likes of barkley who could also slip in. I agree we look off the pace, i just don't understand why we are so far off the pace in terms of sharpness and movement. It looks like our players have no hunger at all to perform.

Does anyone else also think our defence is a real concern? I know he didn't play tonight but i am really unhappy with the performances of Williams. Right back is an obvious concern but Colemans return will be a real bonus. I love Jags but he tries so hard in the games he plays that he can't play every match, age comes to us all so i can't blame him really. New CB and CF are without doubt essential for us to move forward.




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15 Aug 2017 21:34:03
An area of the pitch you need pace? For real? His job is, and always was, to break up the flow of opposition midfield, stop their forward breaks and keep our line steady. He's a defensive enforcer in my view, someone who always puts his body on the line to make the defence job a little easier. Yes he gets a lot of bookings but because he is brave in any situation and knows the tactical advantage of when committing a foul is more of a benefit to the team. I think he would have been a real asset for us in the last half hour of any game where we are under pressure and need to stop such attacking threats. I wil miss him and wish him nothing but the best at West Brom.




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13 Aug 2017 00:23:25
He is not premier league quality at all. i'm not surprised you forget this because he was pathetic when he had his chance at both West Brom and Leicester. He is another Jordan Rhodes, great in the Championship but will not succeed in the top division. If anybody honestly wants to say they think he is an adequate replacement for Lukaku then i'm baffled. I think far too many on here just want us to spend for the sake of it, and a select few just like to argue against any point made because you like the drama. I maintain my stance that signing players of the quality of Woods is something that would see us move backwards in the league!




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12 Aug 2017 00:31:37
Height of ambition there.




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11 Aug 2017 15:37:53
I liked Neville. Was not a fan at all during his Utd days but when he came to us he showed nothing but passion and pride.




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15 Jul 2017 19:24:19
Thank you Ed! I'd be a very happy blue if we get him.





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23 Sep 2017 17:33:30
Wtf bigduncsmum. It was nothing to do with team performances or having a dig at the team. Either you're a troll who loves to constantly bitch about us or just an imbecile looking for an argument. I 100% guarantee you'll be posting crap about the club even though we got the result today!




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23 Sep 2017 17:25:39
What does Gana playing have to do with Klaassen and Sig? He's a completely different kind of player, and prob one of our best. To leave him out would be a sin.




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22 Sep 2017 18:43:41
Its a nice prize to aim for ed01, plus a glamour match of the super cup. Take away thoughts of qualification for the CL by winning and hypothetically just base it on whether its more appealing to play against Barca, Madrid and the likes or win a trophy?


{Ed001's Note - ah ok sorry. In that case surely the aim of sport is to win things? You have to go for the trophy imo.}



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20 Sep 2017 19:16:09
Bringing in Lookman isn't something i meant by not changing. And nobody would say not to try Kenny, looked very very impressive in the summer and Williams has been dire. My point was that we shouldn't be bringing in Lennon, Niasse etc. Our confidence is shot already so this game is where players can step up and show why they are No 1 picks, they need to be the ones who change the form so that moving forward they know its in them to win. If we weaken our team and lose this game then i honestly believe the whole of Evertons supporters will be in open revolt so stick with our best. As for it not working so far, We beat Stoke, we drew with city so it does work. Its purely confidence after the dreadful fixture run and rotation won't help in the slightest with rectifying that.




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