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22 Jun 2017 22:14:41
Evening fellow Evertonians.

I want to state i am not ITK so i tentatively share this information to ponder. It's just some chatter I've heard and could be way off the mark.

Barkley wants a move to a bigger club BUT would happily take a move to almost any club in London, it seems he just wants to relocate to the capital more than anything.

The bigger news i have is that further transfers may actually be put on hold for the time being. It seems that anticipated outgoings are not coming to fruition and if we continue to line up deals we will end up with a bloated squad that has cost a lot of money.

Yes its early days and the window has yet to open, but it was thought a bid would come for Barkley which now looks unlikely, and there is growing thought that Lukaku may actually end up staying. It stems from so many high quality forwards rumoured to be moving that teams could very well swerve a big money move for Rom in favour of equally quality players.

The sudden interest in Lewandowski, although quickly put to bed, apparently made us think that Chelsea are not as keen as first thought and may very well be working on other options instead. It could run late in the window to be decided and we can't splash out on a pricey forward if Rom ends up staying.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 22 Jun 2017 23:36:03
The board are not stupid enough to overspend, they will continue with their targets, this is big business all aspects will have been carefully considered that we are obviously not party to, I remember Koeman saying there would be a statement on Ross B for example which never materialised .
This is pure conjecture on your part and not the reality.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 23:37:18
We have spent roughly 55 million so far.

Bear in mind that we actually made money in the previous summer window.

With the TV money alone, we still have money left to spend, so why would we put signings on hold?

In regards to the bloated squad. Koeman came out even before the season finished and said that we will be recruiting heavily to cope with the extra games/ demands of european football.

With Conor Mc, Kone released and then McCarthy, Jags, Valencia, Del Boy, McGeady, Niasse all leaving (makes 8) , we have only gotten 2 replacements in so far.

Makes no sense at all. We have money to spend, regardless of whether Rom or Barkley stay. Which i highly doubt they will, and the Eds have already made us aware of this.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 23:43:57
I'm not so sure Barkley would be interested in a move to west ham, Fulham, palace or QPR so don't see much in that rumour. I am not ITK but what I do know is that if Lukaku was to stay RK, FM, BK, and SW would be made up.
The club would be stupid to start spending money they couldn't afford based on a possible bid coming in for a player and that is not how the club is being run.
We have money, not billions but enough to bank roll what we have bought so far. Our squad is still small and full of youngsters for a team who needs to compete in the Europa league as well as the prem and domestic cups.
I would take those rumours with a pinch of salt WorcesterEFC.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 23:57:34
Window hasn't actually opened yet. So bidding 18m for Brozovic was just a bluff then was it? Stop believing everything you read in the papers mate.


5.) 23 Jun 2017 11:18:45
@Woburnblue calm your attitude! This is something i heard people talking about today, nothing whatsoever to do with papers. I didn't say anything was a bluff. My understanding is its a re-evaluation until outgoings are clearer. Obviously higher quality signings are considered but we will not be spending 30 mil plus on strikers in the event we don't sell Lukaku!

I thought people would have the common sense to understand i meant attack rather than whole squad but it appears some people are either too literal or itching to slag things off at the first opportunity.

@JMW1878 I don't think you have a grasp of things, just because we made money in previous window and had an influx of cash from tv rights etc, does not mean we can go out and spend it all. The club is looking to buy big, but these players do not come to sit on the bench, and the club does not invest in numerous high value signings to fill the squad without playing.

The likes of Dembele and Bacca etc will not be actively pursued if there is the possibility of not getting a Lukaku sale. You list 8 players "all leaving" but my understanding is there is little interest and at least 4 of those you named could very well still be at the club come end of transfer window.

@Smit666 another literal view of my comment. Maybe i should have said EPL teams to make it easier for you to understand. Use some common sense that i didn't mean Fulham or QPR! But i am of the understanding that he actually would consider West Ham and Palace.


6.) 23 Jun 2017 11:49:09
it's obvious ross has been tapped up by spurs at least a year ago or is it big players within the team reminding every good player we have what a small insignificant club we are but you would think ross (jeffers) barkley would be happy to just come out and say what he wants no fans would hold a grudge if he wanted to try something new in his life especially with his recent troubles. his silence speaks volumes he is not waiting for a move to the capital he is waiting to move to spurs despite the rhetoric coming out of WHL franny i mean ross may just panic and sign for arsenal. what a time to leave tho ross when we are building for the future and the way levy runs spurs you can bet most of the best players in that team will leave within 2 years for better pay and teams maybe you should have taken more stock of players in similar positions in the past.


7.) 23 Jun 2017 13:23:35
As I said the window is not open yet, it has nothing to do with who we sell or buy. People have just got carried away with early signings.


8.) 23 Jun 2017 13:34:46
If Ross would consider WH or Palace then he seriously lacks ambition and the move wouldn't make sense, they won't pay him more than what we have already offered so the move would be purely based on location which is just NUTS.


9.) 23 Jun 2017 15:54:50
I heard some people talking yesterday too and I'm not claiming to be ITK either, but they said those Asda white chocolate magnum copies are just as good as the real McCoy.


 

 

10 Jun 2017 17:01:09
So i heard a rumour a couple of weeks ago that we were interested in Chris Smalling, i dismissed it instantly as i just couldn't see that happening. However it seems Utd have tied up a deal for Lindelof so i have to ask, is it actually a possibility after all?

I have very differing opinons of Smalling at times, sometimes i think he's rock solid and other games he just seems a little average, but on balance i think he would be a pretty decent signing. A partnership of him and Holgate would be pretty solid i think and would definitely be an improvement on our ageing back line situation. You could also say it would potentially be the England national back line in future games if they bonded well.

If anybody has heard anything about this i'd love to know!?

WorcesterEFC

1.) 10 Jun 2017 22:10:14
Everton are after michael Keane. Lamos is back up.


2.) 11 Jun 2017 00:12:50
that's not what i asked jipster.


3.) 12 Jun 2017 12:16:28
Couldn't agree more, Worcester. Seen him look absolutely top quality one game and wobbly and below average the next, but that's symptomatic of a good player playing a little above his level who's not great dealing with 70,000 deluded united fans a week. Think could find his feet and get established with us, as long as he's not too much. Would happily say around £20m?


 

 

30 Aug 2016 21:11:16
Hi Blues

I know he is a controversial choice and many people don't rate him but i think Jack Wilshire could be worth a punt. I say this though only on certain terms which i don't even know if they would be possible.

We take him on the season long loan but with the following deal - a termination clause if he gets a serious injury. If there is a loan fee, this gets decreased in value if he misses a certain percentage of matches through injuries, so perhaps pay half in advance and the remainder based on the games he was available for throughout the season.

I am very dubious of his injury record but i am wondering if maybe he is not committed as much as he could be at Arsenal. He thinks he's a golden boy there but by being told he has to go on loan could give him a real kick up the ass that his future is on the line at last. He needs to perform well this year to either stay with Arsenal or at least become an attractive proposition for other teams he would want to join and so this season long loan could see him play to the best of his ability and whoever gets him could really benefit from this.

WorcesterEFC

{Ed025's Note - i cant see arsenal agreeing to that worcester, by the way it is jack that has asked to go on loan not arsenal mate..


1.) 30 Aug 2016 21:44:18
I had the same kind of feeling about Balotelli, try to get him on loan with a behaviour clause. All it takes is one gamble to pay off and it can gain you 10 points a season. PS I know Liverpool wouldn't do that but surely some players are worth a gamble. What's better? Paying £13.5m for Niasse?


2.) 31 Aug 2016 00:48:52
I think in most cases when someone on loan sustains an injury they return to the parent club for treatment depending on how serious of course.


3.) 30 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Thanks Ed, i had no idea Jack asked for the move. I assumed it was a club choice due to not playing plus being stacked in that position. He must be confident he is going to stay fit this year if he wants to move for regular game time, else it just seems pointless asking to go.

{Ed025's Note - i think he feels he needs a break worcester and needs game time, he has not been getting that at arsenal plus a lot of his problems have been personal ones created by the crowd he knocks around with, the smoking and drinking issues has seen him fall lout with the hierarchy at the emirates and a move away seems the logical solution mate..


 

 

18 Jun 2016 14:32:02
Hi all,
I have a friend who likes to claim he's "in the know", but personally i take it very much with a pinch of salt. we all know people who claim they're connected but can't back it up. I mostly ignore all of his so called info, but he did say something that for once sounds feasible.

Apparently RoKo is looking for a replacement for Barry, with Barry set to take a lesser game playing role in the team. His age now, and amount of bookings does to me make sense for the manager to be considering options.

It got me thinking about who is actually available, will it be a defensive midfield enforcer or someone with a touch more class to make attacking play happen? I can't actually think of a player who would add much to us as a team, at least not one who would consider us anyway, as let's face it we're never going to be signing the Iniestas of the game.

Anybody heard something similar or who has realistic options of who we could convince to join? Thanks as always.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 18 Jun 2016 16:17:05
wanyama frm southampton, good strong midfielder.


2.) 18 Jun 2016 17:21:52
Looks like he's set for splurs.


3.) 18 Jun 2016 18:18:24
You don't have to be in the know to see that it's pretty obvious Gareth Barry's getting on. Wanyama, Strootman, Erdevisie players we haven't heard of.


4.) 18 Jun 2016 18:30:13
Witsel far better player don't rate wanyama we need two good midfielders, keeper left sided winger and another striker two if Lukaka goes. My team ideally would be: Forster, Coleman, stones, mori, bainsey, delefoue, witsel, winjaldah, Brady, milik, Lukaka.


5.) 18 Jun 2016 18:40:14
We already have a player who could fit that role Worcester. It is not cast in stone but this player could be better in the midfield were his defensive mistakes would not be as much of a problem as in central defense and his desire to drive forward could be an advantage.


6.) 18 Jun 2016 18:51:42
its pretty obvious worcester, that barrys days are numbered.


 

 

18 Jul 2015 00:24:17
Hey all,
I heard a rumour that we were showing an interest in Nemanja Vidic, but now it seems Evans is our guy, (although there has been a lot of denials about wanting him). Does anyone know if the Vidic thing ever had legs or was it just someone teasing me?

Also it appears if we are offered 32m plus for Stones then we will do a deal. Very disappointing!

Finally, is there any further info regarding Ospina, Nathan Dyer, januzaj or even our tenuous link to Raul Meireles?

Thanks

WorcesterEFC

1.) 18 Jul 2015 09:53:47
I posted the rumour last week but believe it was a tentative enquiry


2.) 18 Jul 2015 19:08:10
If we allow stones to leave and replace him with evans then Martinez has clearly lost the plot.


3.) 22 Jul 2015 11:17:22
Mick626, doing that for me, would be an imminent sack-able offence. But he has said he has no interest in signing Evans.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2017 20:48:40
Hi all,
I have a question but it's not really about Everton, it's just i'm not too sure where i can ask it sorry.

So i was wondering, with the huge amounts of tv revenue and other prize money each team gets each year, does this mean we will never see the complete demise of a big club again?

A few years back the situation was the same in that, to break top 4 and make a title challenge, big spending was needed but was a gamble, if it backfired the club would slip down the league, get relegated and be burdened by huge costs that led to complete collapse. I think of Leeds, Blackburn, Portsmouth (and Newcastle, although they seemed on a better financial footing to deal with relegation) .

Nowadays though, it seems every team can splash £100 mil without batting an eyelid, knowing that next season even bigger amounts of revenue would be delivered, massive parachute payments are in place for relegation, and those big signings will generate good sales that will put the relegation teams head and shoulders above other Championship teams to make an almost instant return. I can't see how any current EPL team can implode so much to match the disasters of the past.

Essentially i'm asking, do you think finances have now made the game 'safe' for the current Premier League teams, with very few fairytale clubs, such as Huddersfield and Blackpool etc, ever able to join the elite?

WorcesterEFC

{Ed002's Note - I think you are likely correct in the short term. In the longer term there is still a plan that a number of "elite" clubs have to breakaway from their leagues and form a pan European league that would cause a restructuring. UEFA are aware of this and are trying very hard to keep control of matters and pander to these sides. It will be discussed again when the clubs meet in August.

It remains very much an on-going issue with regular discussions on the matter between a dozen or more clubs.

Without going in to too much detail: (a) A number of clubs take the opportunity to meet and discuss various issues including changes in rules, club versus country issues, television and other media rights, the power of UEFA, exploitation issues for new technology streams, etc.. The meetings were annually but now they happen two and sometimes three times a year. There was a meeting in December – where there was a discussion about the state of FIFA, the situation with UEFA and a so far unpublished claim from a retired referee that the result of a Champions League game was influenced by a third party. These discussions also always turn to the possibility and structure of a breakaway pan European league. Several are ex-G14 clubs, several are not, and some clubs decline involvement in such discussions. (b) The plan is that at some point a number of clubs would break away from their national leagues and UEFA. They accept that they would be banned from all existing club competition and the players would initially be banned from all FIFA competitions as well, but know that FIFA would be looking to negotiate in any case. It would be the end of UEFA in all probability and UEFA are very aware of this. It would also result in a restructuring of many of the national leagues. (c) The clubs would renegotiate their television and media rights, rights of distribution via other streams etc.. (d) It remains the greatest fear of UEFA and all major national authorities that one day this will happen – which has resulted in a counter-proposal being drafted by UEFA. (e) Timing wise, two very prominent clubs want it to happen as soon as possible (2018) and they have the support of a third club - but most are looking at 2022 being a good option. A few clubs are looking at 2025 to 2027 and I suspect that could end up as the reality.

There is a counter-proposal to the pan-European breakaway that has partially been backed by UEFA to try and save their own skin. This is an option to the breakaway as everyone now knows the reality of it. The proposal is to rename and change the format of the UEFA Champions League to make it an elite closed-shop pan-European league with a fixed number of teams – and these would be the same teams every year. It would then require the restructuring of the Europa League and the possible introduction of a lower-tier European competition. Although they have yet to flesh out the detail and there is now a major concern that the impetus for this is not coming from Europe, although one major Football Association has given their support and discussions have also been held with the leading clubs from England (Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal). The American backer, Stephen Ross of the Miami Dolphins, has requested a meeting with an extant group of sides considering the pan-European breakaway to discuss his proposals. They have yet to respond but having identified the source of much of the funding (and that raising a concern) will wish to discuss it between themselves first. However, UEFA are now considering yet another proposal that would see some places in the CL fixed (probably to previous winners) and then see it supplemented by Champions and second place sides each season. This complicates matters again as it means the re-introduction of a third competition or the significant restructuring of the EL. The plan being put to clubs is a summer/preseason tournament that will evolve in to a parallel league, and of course eventually in to a complete breakaway for these clubs. As a first step to all of this, UEFA have negotiated minor changes that will see the four entrants from England, Germany, Spain and Italy enter the existing Champions League group stages without any qualification beyond their National League position (so no entry to qualifying rounds). This has been agreed by the European Club Association but UEFA did not want to discuss it with the separate group of “elite” sides discussing the Pan European League (and that “elite” group includes three English sides) as they are aware they will get no more than a shrug and no long-term support.

If the proposal for a breakaway goes ahead, there is every likelihood that the big money from television, sponsorship etc. would go with a breakaway league. It would completely rupture the operations of UEFA and I would expect it would require national associations like the FA to restructure their leagues. Nobody wants this but it is the eventual consequence I would expect. Initially it could be that there is a single 16 team league with 2 or 3 EPL teams making the initial plunge. If I had to speculate, I would think (1) you might eventually see something like five or six EPL teams leave for two-tier pan European league - but it won't be based on the UEFA rankings; (2) the Premier League would be disbanded as an organisation; (3) the FA would restructure in to two 20 team divisions with lower leagues regionalised as they were many years ago; (4) FIFA would ban all players from the breakaway teams from International football - perhaps rescinding that position to stop FIFA breaking up as well - they don't want further issues but the troubles are not going to go away. I could also see many teams lose their professional status. I would think we are probably 10 years away from any significant move at this time.

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroots sport get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis.

A further counter proposal exists as a Chinese proposal from the Dalian Wanda Group proposes to open up the lucrative Chinese and Far Eastern media markets by extending the league to include Chinese and Southa American clubs. This has yet to be discussed by the "elite" sides as a group although the proposals have been presented to a number of them already on an individual basis. The proposals are very broad-based and lack detail - their selling point is significant additional income for the "elite".}


1.) 20 Jun 2017 21:26:50
Ed, fantastic information, albeit gut wrenching. ultimately it sounds like the death of football as we all know it, and certainly looks like it would completely change the sport, and the support, which has always been largely governed by the local area you grew up in, and/ or the people who have influence on you ( friends/ family) . If what your saying comes to fruition it could literally kill myself support for the game.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 22:16:51
I think the league your talking about Ed, will finish football off for me personally. I would cut off completely it makes me sick to the core knowing this breakaway 'elite' league is being seriously talked about. There's never been a fair enough playing field in football in my lifetime (born in 96) but this elite league that would only allow certain clubs would be the tipping point. What's your thoughts ed?

{Ed002's Note - The game has changed significantly and will continue to do so. Football at the highest level is big business and attracts the sponsorship it does because the sponsors wish to tap in to the disposable income of the fans and ride the back of the advertising that flows naturally from the success some clubs achieve. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Anfield on a Saturday afternoon. I have explained that there will be changes, probably within the next 10 to 12 years, which will force the restructuring of all of the leagues in Europe and likely do away with the likes of UEFA. You will have the opportunity to see the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Juventus and the other major European sides play in week-on-week regular competition at The Emirates, Stamford Bridge etc.. You will have the opportunity to visit Milan, Barcelona, Monaco, etc. every couple of weeks to watch your team play - if they make the cut. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match, perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them?

I hold a reasonably strong view in terms of the need to restructure football in Europe in any case. For me an eventual a breakaway pan-European league would force the restructuring of many of the national leagues, possibly resulting in a British league with perhaps only a couple of professional tiers and then regionalised amateur leagues below that. Financially I do not see that so many pro sides can be sustained within the sport which, like it or not, will see more and more money going in to the highest levels of the game. Governments will ensure that grassroot sports get funding but everything in the middle (Southern, Northern, Conference, Division 2, Scottish Divisions 1-3, League of Wales will not get the funding needed to continue on any sort of professional basis. For me, clubs should already recognise this and put their efforts in to getting there finances in order to see if they can make it to a British professional league that will need to flourish without perhaps six sides that have gone down the pan-European route - and have gone for good. Clubs like Accrington Stanley will need to carry on as ameteurs or face extinction (yet again). A possible option might result from a potential landmark decision that UEFA must make in June or July - and that could facilitate the ownership of of lower-tier sides by the more senior sides and then work as a feeder club.}


3.) 20 Jun 2017 22:46:53
If the breakaway was to happen, I feel that the best option would be a British league. This would improve grassroots football in Ireland, Wales and Scotland.


4.) 20 Jun 2017 23:48:54
Thank you very much for the excellent reply Ed002!

Personally i like the idea of restructuring European competitions rather than leagues but ultimately i think we all know which way it is heading. I really believe that a breakaway league should have at least 2 divisions, creating the excitement and pain of promotion and relegation, there's certainly enough 'big' teams to accommodate 2 divisions of 20 teams each, but i fear the clubs pushing for it would be dead against any chance of losing their place at the top and so will push for 1 division only.

It's such a shame to imagine the loss of so many local teams, such as Worcester, but teams like this are already struggling to stay in existence and there's absolutely no way further redistribution of funds will in any way help. Really interesting idea though about creating feeder clubs which would help a few. Also, the death knell of the historic F. A. Cup would be sad to see but no lower tier sides to create the magic gives little choice.

I certainly understand the glamour for clubs involved, welcoming the global elite to your ground every other week, and the opportunity to watch these matches is a mouthwatering idea as a football fan, and there's no doubting that viewing figures for televised games would be astronomical.

Merging the English and Scottish league would be great, an end to the dominance of Celtic/ Rangers, and an away trip for Everton to Ibrox every season is something i will 100% be excited to be a part of, so there's always an upside.

One question i wonder though, if one of the teams pushing for the breakaway league, let's say Arsenal, end up taking a turn for the worse over the next 7 or so years, sliding to mid table at best or perhaps even relegation, then would this impact on them getting the spot? As a team pushing for it, a 'founder', being a global brand and achieving constant European football, i can see why they would be involved, but if they slip to become a lesser team then surely they won't be wanted. Are the spots in the league up for review or are they more or less figured out already?

{Ed002's Note - The clubs are all commited and an off season would not change anything. Right now there is a group of sides that would certainly be the starting point.}


5.) 20 Jun 2017 23:57:36
Wow ed, what a response that is! Really interesting read.


6.) 21 Jun 2017 12:43:15
RIP football.


7.) 21 Jun 2017 10:38:46
Great info ED. Looks to me like the adoption of a NFL/ Super rugby type format they seriously need to consider non relegation though as it would mean any team not within the top of the table towards the end of he season would have nothing to play for so their games would become irrelevant to them in essence a friendly. This is starting to happen in super rugby and has been going on for years in he NFL. Will be interesting to see what actually happens.


8.) 21 Jun 2017 11:37:11
Jeez ED. Its another step towards the Americanisation of the sport. Clubs will be richer but fans will not enjoy it. It will be strange because fans of clubs like Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Man UTD etc are used to seeing their clubs win titles in their domestic leagues now they will have to get used to seeing their club finish mid table.

As a result you may find that the best supported team in England could be Real or Barcelona perhaps as English fans who do not support any of the breakaway English teams would pick a foreign team to support instead. Chelsea may end up having more fans in Spain than England as Spanish non Real or Barcelona fans will also prefer to support a foreign team. Teams will become global and lose their grass roots identity.


 

 

13 Jun 2017 19:40:16
Pickford is the choice we wanted then, but i confess I'm a little disappointed. I genuinely hope he is as good as the talk of highly promising career suggests, but for me there are too many unanswered questions.

I believe a keeper at a relegation team often stands out because of the sheer volume of action they're involved in every game. How will he perform in games where he see's much less action? Is his concentration level high enough to do almost nothing but still be alert and ready for a 70th minute counter attack or a shot out of the blue?
How does he react to an expectation of having to keep a clean sheet every game, rather than knowing at Sunderland goals were inevitable and keeping it below 3 was acceptable?
Is he really experienced enough for European football? - the differing styles of play compared to EPL, some god awful grounds such as in Ukraine etc.
Also, how many players have we seen with first season syndrome where they look like rockstars but then can't repeat it again? Michu springs to mind here as a prime example.

Again, i wish him nothing but tremendous success, but i would much prefer proven experience from Butland or Foster than the possibility of someone who could be great but needs to prove it.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 13 Jun 2017 21:01:48
Totally gobsmacked! We've just bought the best young keeper in the Premier . Likely to be our number 1 for years. 😍.


2.) 13 Jun 2017 21:19:32
Have to disagree Woburn, he's a decent keeper, but for me, Butland is where are money should have been spent and he's only a year older than Pickford.


3.) 13 Jun 2017 21:25:46
Sorry Worcester but I don't agree with any of your concerns. He's coming to Everton not Barcelona. Going on about concentration levels for the 70th minute and not conceeding more than 2 goals a game but expected to keep a clean sheet. He's a fantastic keeper already, with one season under his belt. Unless he loses the plot or money goes to his head he's only going to get better and better. Some people like Barkley needs constant mothering and telling off like a naughty kid. Pickford has played every international level and I believe to be a true professional. I was excited over the other 4 main targets but Pickford really did get me excited. She don't know it yet but the missus won't be reading her book tonight 😉.
I've never understood why clubs hate paying out for goalkeepers. To me they are the most important player on the pitch. If you got a top goal scorer but a keeper that let's everything in you're going to lose. Whereas if your keeper is world class but the team is struggling to score you're now expecting a point.
Pickford will be worldclass. And all these morons saying De Gea cost less than 20 million so now must be worth 90 million because of Pickford is talking utter shite.

Looking forward to the new season. Going to be our best one yet.


4.) 13 Jun 2017 23:11:21
Sorry Bullens but what has Butland done exactly?


5.) 13 Jun 2017 23:44:19
Happy with Pickford we are building a team of young exciting players, been a long time coming.


6.) 14 Jun 2017 00:16:51
He is reliable a good shot stopper quick of his line, easily the best keeper in the prem for my money and England's number one by a distance.
He also is good with his feet and commands his area.


 

 

28 May 2017 22:25:37
Does anyone know for certain if Rom will be leaving this summer? I know there are plenty of links to other clubs, but they seem to have other targets too, so is it possible he could stay another year?

If he goes, i think we need to take careful consideration about his replacement. Everybody is clamouring for a big name, huge money replacement but i'm not sure this is the way to go.

I base this on Rom scoring 25 PL goals this term, but i believe this was only in 17 matches. I love the guy and want him to stay, but i feel we need a forward who scores roughly the same but over more games, someone who can score in 20-25 games. Wouldn't this result in more overall points? Naturally i can't take into account contributions like assists and creating space by pulling defenders out of position, but we need goals in more games, not goal sprees in one match.

My plan for a more successful season would probably be 2 consistent strikers, each capable of 12-15 goals each. We can still play the lone striker set-up which works pretty well, but then hopefully get an equal goal output in a greater number of games. Ok, i admit that a 12-15 goal striker is not someone who is going to get world accolades like Harry Kane does, but for the benefit of the team as a whole it just makes sense.

On a side note, and i know he looks to be massively out of favour and being shown the door, i would like to see Deulofeu given a fresh chance but played as a CF. With his pace and trickery skills, i feel he would thrive much more than being used as a Winger. I make a hesitant comparison to Cristiano Ronaldo in his style, clearly not as good but with more experience and if he bulked up a little, he could become a very regular scorer. I think i remember him playing the role in pre season and nabbing a few goals, and his International career for Spain U21s i believe he plays the CF role, scoring roughly every other game, 32 games 16 goals. I've noticed a few times that forwards with great pace always do well in the EPL.

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1.) 29 May 2017 02:39:48
The young man city kid would do for me. He's no different from when we took Rom. as long as he puts the ball in the net then that will do me.


2.) 29 May 2017 09:40:38
Spurs finished 2nd not because Kane scored 29 goals but because there were others who weighed in. We need goals from other attacking options. So the point of Lukaku is a valid one but we're looking in the wrong direction. Ali, Son, Erickson all scored well. So for us to be more competitive next season to get CL we need the goals to come from other areas of the pitch.

I would like us to keep Lukaku and sign some attacking midfielders as I think we have quality in defensive ones.


3.) 29 May 2017 10:07:06
I couldn't agree more.


4.) 29 May 2017 18:06:17
Spot on TA. We definitely don't need anymore holding mids. Siggy and Klassen for me.


5.) 29 May 2017 19:51:18
Worcester, yes Chelsea mate and Roms agent, Ronnie and every man and his dog knows, only way Rom will not go will be other teams not paying the asking price and not down to a change of heart by Rom.

If Rom is still an Everton player come September 1st I will swim the English Channel with Pavarotti strapped to my back.

{Ed025's Note - i hope he stays now baz.. :)


6.) 29 May 2017 22:03:39
Baz, you do know how impossible that is. Not the swimming but who's strapped to your back.


7.) 30 May 2017 00:07:12
Could get in a lot of trouble getting hold of Pavarotti to put on your back 😳.


8.) 30 May 2017 06:35:21
Sure do guys, it will not happen though, simply because Rom will be away, so the impossible was firmly tongue in cheek to the fact it is not possible for me to be able to do the feat for obvious reasons, not a chance Rom will be here come September. Might be a shock but I am sure I overheard Rom mentioning Champions league football hard to believe I know but not sure if others have heard this strange rumour flying around.


 

 

27 May 2017 07:24:19
Morning all,

Just a little fun if the Eds will allow this.

We all think of ourselves as scouting experts on players linked with the club, so let's put it to the test. Maybe any Eds can say if its a good choice or utter nonsense?

Tell us about a player who you would love at the club, a little about his position, and why he would be a good signing. No absurd suggestions like Neymar, its lazy and wholly unrealistic.

I'll get the ball rolling.

I recommend Ruben Neves from Porto of the Portuguese league. Only 20 years old so in terms of development i believe there is huge potential for him to develop into a global star. He is a Midfielder, defensive i believe, and with Gareth Barry getting way to old, he would be an excellent replacement.
Despite being 20, he could be ready to jump straight into the first team, assuming he adapts quickly to the EPL and climate change.
Already a senior international with Portugal, a nation with an excellent crop of players, gives an insight that he is rated highly as a player, likely he would have made more appearances except his competition is in the form of Joao Mario, William Carvalho, Joao Moutinho etc, it's easy to see why the breakthrough to International regular is difficult.
As a defensive minded midfielder, goals are not going to come often, but his real strengths lie in his excellent passing and vision, seemingly always looking to create strong attacking play for the team. Positional awareness is fantastic, so unlikely he will be caught ball watching and gifting the opposition space to break. A natural leader at such a young age only bodes well for the future.

Tough to sign, seems very committed to Porto. Many clubs have reportedly shown interest such as Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool. Wouldn't be surprised to see a fee of 40 million, maybe higher.

WorcesterEFC

{Ed025's Note - mine would be arnautovic who plays for stoke, he is what i would call an old fashioned centre forward and i believe in a better side would thrive, hes good in the air, holds the ball up well and certainly knows where the goal is, great leader of the line as well and brings the midfield into the game, im not sure what price he would be but it would be less than what we will get for rom and i see him as the perfect replacement myself,....good exercise that worcester mate..


1.) 27 May 2017 08:05:31
Thank you Ed025.
I really do like Arnautovic aswell. Weren't we linked with him last summer? No disrespect at all to Stoke, but i completely agree that he could step up even more at a bigger club. And yes, what great value he would be as a replacement for Rom, nice healthy profit with a proven EPL scorer. Your shout beats mine!

{Ed025's Note - i have liked him for a few years worcester and their was talk last year of us sounding him out, he ticks all the boxes for me but of course i dont do the recruitment for everton...maybe you and i should apply for the job mate.. :)


2.) 27 May 2017 08:29:27
If only Ed, a job like that really would be living the dream!
I know it boils down to personal preference on a player so i can see why managers bring in their own staff, you've got to be in sync right.
But i do enjoy hearing valid reasons and info on players, there's just so many that it's difficult to know about who they all are and what they're like. I imagine this to be a virtual scenario of what scouts are like when they network with each other.

{Ed025's Note - i think your right mate..


3.) 27 May 2017 11:52:55
I posted on here a couple of years ago we should go for Paulo Dybala what a good move that would have been!


4.) 27 May 2017 15:06:31
Great post idea Worcester
I would like to see Loftus-Cheek and Ake as part of a deal from Chelsea for Lukaku.
Think Loftus-Cheek is wasted in their reserves and is an age now when he needs to fulfill the potential. Watched him in the England U21s and was very impressed. Tall, powerful, can play holding as well as an eye for goal.
Ake came on leaps and bounds at Bournemouth and I feel is going to be a great defender. Good intelligent brain, reads the game and not afraid of a challenge.
I'd also try and get Bembele from Celtic by using McCarthy as bait.
Might cost a few bob but we should have got him when he was at Fulham. Eye for goal, good pace and a good goal scoring return even for up in Scotland.


5.) 27 May 2017 15:47:38
Assuming he recovers from injury. and I know this will wind some up. Sakho seems a giant of a defender to me and although at times looks dodgy, his record at Palace was 2nd to none. He also looked good for the Red side and guess he must have a problem with attitude or something?


6.) 28 May 2017 04:09:43
I can't see it happening, but I would love for us to sign Christian Pulisic. I have watched him play for Dortmund and for the United States national team several times, and he has preformed when the pressure is on (creating 2 goals in the champions league group knockout stage against benfica and drawing the match winning penalty in the cup final yesterday) . He is only 18 and already more consistent than Kevin Mirallas and all of our other wingers. he's scored and assisted more in mainly a substitute role than the majority of our team. On top of that, the commercial value he would bring here in the states would be, dare I say it, phenomenal.


7.) 28 May 2017 09:41:41
I'd love for us to sign Sebastian giovinco, toli horn and Jonathan tah.

Giovinco currently plays in the mls for Toronto and has a decent record for them. but before this he was a part of a very successful juve side.
Pace to burn and can play as a loan striker,10 or mid.

Jonathan tah is a young centre back who plays for leverkusen. build like a barn door and pace for a centre back. very good young

Timo horn is the fc koln keeper. Young and very talented. horn has represented Germany at every level except for senior level, but given that he's only 24 there's plenty of time. Would be a fantastic long-term investment.


 

 

18 Apr 2017 22:20:45
Hi all,

Really enjoying this season but so annoying to lose so heavily against Liverpool and then drop two points at the death against Utd, those extra few points could have given us a real shout at snatching 5th. I think whilst there has been great improvement this year, it shows we still need significant improvement.

That brings me on to Rooney, I heard he will join us if offered the same terms we offered Rom, it's a high wage yes but significantly lower than he earns now or could get with other clubs so i like the passion he must still have for the club. I do worry about the reported contract pay off of £30 mil tho that he's due from Utd/ potential buyer.

I think he's clearly not the player of old, not a replacement for Rom and not going to play a lot of our matches, but if we get Europa, and want to push for a Cup then someone like him could be invaluable for the extra games we face. I think his biggest asset in signing for us is what he can offer to the younger stars we have emerging. Lookman, Calvert-Lewin and Davies could improve their game immensely by working with Rooney, and perhaps Rom and Barkley could still learn some new aspects to their game, after all, they're still relatively young and very much in the 'room for improvement' stage of their careers.

I understand it's a conflicted feeling for most fans, but surely a world class mentor for the younger players is a worthwhile investment.

WorcesterEFC

1.) 18 Apr 2017 22:56:55
Top post Worcester EFC.


2.) 18 Apr 2017 23:08:01
I agree. I'd have him on a free for £100k a week. The lad scored 15 goals last season and hasn't become a bad player in 1 season.


3.) 19 Apr 2017 07:49:54
He would love to come home. Playing for us next season would give him a new lease of life. It would also make financial sense. We would get a larger revenue stream by having him in team, sky alone would show more live games of us.


4.) 19 Apr 2017 08:31:42
You only have to look how Utd have done in the premiership this season with Rooney missing a lot of those games only ibrahimovics rich vain of form have kept Utd in the top 6, would add experience to our squad, especially now with the Europa league place all but settled, be a brilliant addition to our squad.


5.) 19 Apr 2017 10:33:32
I agree with all you Blues that I would have Wayne back with no reservations.
Wayne has blue blood running in him, but he could have made himself into another DIXIE with folklore attributes by offering to play for us for well nothing!
Yes I can hear you all laughing saying how naive I am, but I have like you all blue blood running through me .

We are all saying how marvellous he is offering to take a wage cut to come to us, but with the amount of money he has accrued which is millions upon millions the amount he will receive playing a few years at Everton will not make a dent on what he has.

So in reality the overwhelming positivity he would have received from all over the world for such an act would in my opinion be far greater to me than what to him (not any of us would be a drop in his ocean).

So I will be glad if he comes but sadly he is just as greedy as every single one of these footballers. A missed opportunity as far as I am concerned sadly, but he will still be an asset, but don't think he's great, just because he's gong to take a pay cut.
Perhaps he could give it all to penniless Evertonians!


6.) 19 Apr 2017 12:19:14
Very good posts all of those above, i agree completely and have said all along that Wayne would be a tremendous asset to Everton not only for the playing side of things but helping the youngsters and also Ross would learn so musch from him, he can also still put in a good shift in the Team when required and would be a very good signing for R K and Mr Moshiri, and one I am sure most fans want, GuernseyBlue.


7.) 19 Apr 2017 12:42:45
Yes I would have him back, no way he would go to China, his misses would not allow it, LOL.


8.) 19 Apr 2017 12:44:00
That's the problem Worcester, 30 mil and a contract worth potentially 18 mil (I presume we will give him 3 years) is a lot to invest in a player who has clearly shown is on the decline.

I personally think we should invest that amount elsewhere. I don't think the forgotten man at Manchester is going to up EFCs profile that much, he sold shirts for the Mancs cause he played for the Mancs, even his time as an England player looks at an end. Let's not be sentimental. We need to look to the future and long term building of the team.


9.) 19 Apr 2017 15:19:20
I disagree BeStyrne. Look at Defoe now back in the England fold after being the forgotten man. If he comes and performs then I don't see why he can't play for England again.


10.) 19 Apr 2017 16:33:16
Valid point smit but defoe wasn't in decline as a player, just took a strange path (which made him England's forgotten man) that many thought was the wrong way for him to go.

Proved to be as well.

The Mancs would pay for his cab, most would drive him here themselves, fans often realise when somethings not right. If he's not good enough for them now why do we want him? Would that push TD down the pecking order? Maybe stop Dowell making the step up. There's more to taking in a 'name' or being sentimental because he's 'one of us'. Him coming people might feel obliged to play him that might impact development of the team.

Just my thoughts, I personally would rather use that money on someone with more years In front of them than behind them, we need depth for years to come, think we can survive without needing ageing players to fill the 'gap for now' mentality.

In 2 years would you rather need to replace Rooney or have invested in someone who is 26/27 and integrated into a team built to compete.


11.) 19 Apr 2017 18:36:56
I know where you're coming from but until were in the champs league we are going to have to beg steal and borrow the best talent we can and to have someone of Rooneys quality on a free transfer has to improve the squad and I feel he will. And if Rom does go we need players behind our new striker that can chip in with goals.


12.) 19 Apr 2017 22:43:51
But that's the problem, he will not be on a free. If What I read is correct, he has 2 years left at around 250k a week, That's what.26 mil?

Rooneys not going to walk away from that amount, so that's going to have to be paid, I'm sure United will not give him a 26 mil golden handshake. Any team taking him will be expected to meet what ever severance he is happy to accept.

Even OP said he was concerned about giving potentially 30 mil for him. And if that was the case with a 140k salary over 3 years we would be investing what could be 48 mil in someone with no sell on value and is showing signs of decline.

I don't think it's good business. I think building a younger team to challenge in the near future is the way forward personally.


13.) 19 Apr 2017 22:52:44
I can't get excited over a player that's hardly played a game all season, been in decline for the past two and will cost us around £22 mil in wages for three years at the wrong end of his career. He won't create new revenues and won't make sky show more games. He won't even play every week and a full 90 minutes most games. He isn't even half the player that left us.

Take his name away and it's not such an appealing purchase.

William Jose does. Brahimi does. Gilfi does. Your Schneiderlin does. Lookman does. Gana does. An over the hill reserve player just doesn't fit in that group.

However, I get that people want romance or bromance and want him back. Just don't try and wrap it up as football related. It's because he was a blue. The insane part of my brain kind of agrees with you but my belief we are past the days of Gazza, Ginola and others we've had over the years brings me back to reality.

I want us to be like Barca, Madrid, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, City and other top clubs buying quality in-form players: not hoping we can reignite the career of some relic of the past.


14.) 20 Apr 2017 09:32:15
Getting Rooney would attract players. Very much like Robiniho did for city. It would put us on the map. He is world renowned and hopefuly help with the Europa league. If the price is right it's surely a no brainer!


15.) 20 Apr 2017 14:20:29
Rooney will be costly in respect of a transfer fee and wages, however he will bring experience to the squad.
Most aging players will not want to be sat on the bench hence he wants to leave Utd, so he will want assurances about his game time, who gives way etc is the question, also unlike buying and up and coming player you can develop further like Rom, you will not make anything from him in the future when he calls it a day!


 

 

 

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23 Jun 2017 11:18:45
@Woburnblue calm your attitude! This is something i heard people talking about today, nothing whatsoever to do with papers. I didn't say anything was a bluff. My understanding is its a re-evaluation until outgoings are clearer. Obviously higher quality signings are considered but we will not be spending 30 mil plus on strikers in the event we don't sell Lukaku!

I thought people would have the common sense to understand i meant attack rather than whole squad but it appears some people are either too literal or itching to slag things off at the first opportunity.

@JMW1878 I don't think you have a grasp of things, just because we made money in previous window and had an influx of cash from tv rights etc, does not mean we can go out and spend it all. The club is looking to buy big, but these players do not come to sit on the bench, and the club does not invest in numerous high value signings to fill the squad without playing.

The likes of Dembele and Bacca etc will not be actively pursued if there is the possibility of not getting a Lukaku sale. You list 8 players "all leaving" but my understanding is there is little interest and at least 4 of those you named could very well still be at the club come end of transfer window.

@Smit666 another literal view of my comment. Maybe i should have said EPL teams to make it easier for you to understand. Use some common sense that i didn't mean Fulham or QPR! But i am of the understanding that he actually would consider West Ham and Palace.

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that's not what i asked jipster.

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Egen Hazard? Is he the 3rd brother to Edin and Thorgan? maybe he should stick to being a Ghostbuster.

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26 May 2017 00:47:05
I know Rooney returning polarizes opinions amongst fans, but is it really such a bad move for us?

As a comparison, Gareth Barry is 36, and yes this season hasn't been stand out but still did a job when needed. His contribution to us since joining has been fantastic in my opinion and he illustrates that an older player is still a huge asset to have if they are good enough to affect a match. Rooney is what 31/ 32? I don't anticipate a vast number of goals from him but i can see the benefits of him being in the team. I've mentioned before the impact he can have on youth development/ mentorship. I think he is still more than capable of hitting double figures for goals, and we need need more goals throughout the team rather than mainly being reliant on a sole striker. As a free kick taker of exceptional talent, this could net a few more points over the course of a season. I see him being more of a midfielder, didn't he say a couple of years back that he sees this role as something that could keep him in the game at the top level for longer? He has good vision, passing and composure, so could open up the game and create more for attackers if used in the role. Another huge benefit has to be his love of the club and this is my big selling point. We just cannot beat Liverpool. I think the Merseyside derbies are 2 games where he will give his absolute all. His desire to help get the win in these matches of course doesn't justify the huge wages, but right now i'd give my arm to get a win over Liverpool after so long.
Also, Koeman is no fool. He seems to really want Rooney to join and i think his knowledge far exceeds any of ours. If he sees the move as beneficial, that it is an improvement, then are we really in a position to disagree?
I think maybe, even if you really don't want him to return, that we should take a more considered approach to comments about him because it's looking like a good possibility he will make the move and fostering a bad attitude towards him won't help anyone. Give him our support and hope he's a success.

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I think desperation is creeping in with Newcastle selling Sissoko. Willing to accept 5 installments of 6mil and making this news public seems like a last ditch effort to get offers in.
Is there a possibility that Benitez want on a crazy spending spree assuring the board he would balance the books a little by selling Sissoko? He always seemed like a manager who loves to buy tonnes of players and i think he was sure he could play hardball and demand 30mil after the Euro's performances. I have a feeling a move will happen somewhere but at a much lower price.

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20 Jun 2017 23:48:54
Thank you very much for the excellent reply Ed002!

Personally i like the idea of restructuring European competitions rather than leagues but ultimately i think we all know which way it is heading. I really believe that a breakaway league should have at least 2 divisions, creating the excitement and pain of promotion and relegation, there's certainly enough 'big' teams to accommodate 2 divisions of 20 teams each, but i fear the clubs pushing for it would be dead against any chance of losing their place at the top and so will push for 1 division only.

It's such a shame to imagine the loss of so many local teams, such as Worcester, but teams like this are already struggling to stay in existence and there's absolutely no way further redistribution of funds will in any way help. Really interesting idea though about creating feeder clubs which would help a few. Also, the death knell of the historic F. A. Cup would be sad to see but no lower tier sides to create the magic gives little choice.

I certainly understand the glamour for clubs involved, welcoming the global elite to your ground every other week, and the opportunity to watch these matches is a mouthwatering idea as a football fan, and there's no doubting that viewing figures for televised games would be astronomical.

Merging the English and Scottish league would be great, an end to the dominance of Celtic/ Rangers, and an away trip for Everton to Ibrox every season is something i will 100% be excited to be a part of, so there's always an upside.

One question i wonder though, if one of the teams pushing for the breakaway league, let's say Arsenal, end up taking a turn for the worse over the next 7 or so years, sliding to mid table at best or perhaps even relegation, then would this impact on them getting the spot? As a team pushing for it, a 'founder', being a global brand and achieving constant European football, i can see why they would be involved, but if they slip to become a lesser team then surely they won't be wanted. Are the spots in the league up for review or are they more or less figured out already?

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27 May 2017 08:29:27
If only Ed, a job like that really would be living the dream!
I know it boils down to personal preference on a player so i can see why managers bring in their own staff, you've got to be in sync right.
But i do enjoy hearing valid reasons and info on players, there's just so many that it's difficult to know about who they all are and what they're like. I imagine this to be a virtual scenario of what scouts are like when they network with each other.

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Thank you Ed025.
I really do like Arnautovic aswell. Weren't we linked with him last summer? No disrespect at all to Stoke, but i completely agree that he could step up even more at a bigger club. And yes, what great value he would be as a replacement for Rom, nice healthy profit with a proven EPL scorer. Your shout beats mine!

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{Ed025's Note - i have liked him for a few years worcester and their was talk last year of us sounding him out, he ticks all the boxes for me but of course i dont do the recruitment for everton...maybe you and i should apply for the job mate.. :)


 

 

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What a disgraceful post! Yes Rom wants to move to a bigger club but he's not a local boy, he never came through our ranks and he doesn't have any particular affinity to Everton, he is doing nothing wrong by wanting to test himself at the highest level. His contribution to us over the years has been invaluable and we stand to make a very tidy profit. To cheer on a player from another club just out of spite is disgusting for a real fan, you don't deserve to wear the royal blue!
For an accolade that is quite an achievement for our beloved club to be associated with, we should be cheering Rom to go out on a high and take the golden boot!

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16 May 2017 01:25:09
I think Giroud would be an excellent signing for us! I've always liked him since he joined Arsenal and always wondered why their fans just didn't take to him. Unfortunately i see him heading back to France, Montpellier or possibly Marseille. He doesn't look too happy here now, maybe under appreciated, and let's be honest Merseyside is a lot less desirable to live in than France.
His European experience would be a huge asset to us next season, and it could even tempt someone like Walcott to follow (if he's surplus to requirements and if we'd even be interested)

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