Everton Banter Archive February 10 2019

10 Feb 2019 23:44:20
Last season we exited the f a cup at the first attempt, went out early season before.

This season out after the 4th round, now in theory a chance to get the players together and sort out any issues and work on them in extra training, instead our players get rewarded by having time off, some 7 Days with Silva debating the remaining Days free what to do.

Is it any wonder our players are not busting a gut in the cup games, if they get rewarded with a free week, sometimes in a warm weather warm up, this season, simply 7 Days off because we played a game in midweek.

If Bingham was around, he would have had them training on Southport or Ainsdale beach.

Instead we have players who have hardly bust a gut getting time off instead of trying to fix our problems.

11 Feb 2019 09:42:01
Your right bignev they have been rewarded with a warm weather trip (nice for some)

11 Feb 2019 10:03:47
The blokes a con man. Maybe Mr Moshri is waiting because he knows once he sacks Silva, Silva won't get a job in the Prem again, who wants to be responsible for that.

11 Feb 2019 10:17:54
The results we have had any manager regardless of who he is must be thinking he's going to be sacked.

11 Feb 2019 15:55:16
The City game was better and i didn't see the Watford game so can only speculate from clips and reviews but it seems that if we had a striker we would have won if not drawn that match.
Maybe a few weeks to regroup and recharge batteries could help massively.
I wanted Koeman originally but was done with him by the time he went. In hindsight i think we pulled the trigger too early on Koeman and yet we see the same traits from this squad that we did under Koeman.
Letting in goals for fun and plenty of possession and no end product.
The same towards the end of Allardyces reign too.
Maybe just maybe we need to stick with Silva and get rid of the players who obviously can't play the way Silva wants to play. Oh and buy a striker as well.

11 Feb 2019 16:46:04
I thought Koeman was the man for us as well. Martinez Belgian Boss, Koeman, Netherlands Boss, Silva Portugese Boss?

11 Feb 2019 17:08:41
I agree with you there Smit.

11 Feb 2019 17:49:35
Well Smit I am going to disagree completely.
After a much better performance against why would you change the team, with the exception of Walcott, for thevWatfordi game.
Whoever said he was a talented coach must have been a relative, his man management of Lookman is appalling and I suspect quite a few others also and he is both tactically and technically wanting.
We’ll be lucky to get to mid 40 points this season and are currently in free fall.
As previously posted I sincerely hope Mr Moshiri has inserted a performance and break clause in MS’s contract otherwise we will again be paying £millions in compensation for another failure.

11 Feb 2019 18:27:43
I did a prediction table Fancy Smith. I ran it three times and got to a maximum of 39 points.

11 Feb 2019 18:41:40
You won’t be very far out DFS, really worrying.

11 Feb 2019 20:15:31
I'm not sure why he changed them but we still lost against city so it's not like he changed a winning team.

Come on! are you having a laugh there? What prediction table are you running? if it's accurate you could do with patenting it and selling it to the bookies. You can buy Moshiri out with the money you make DFS.

Fancy, not sure where you have heard of his treatment of Lookman because the last I heard of Lookman a few weeks ago he was singing his praises.
And that came direct from Lookman.

11 Feb 2019 20:36:02
Serious mate, 39 points, but I gave the win to Cardiff, we win the Cardiff game and we will get (with the hopeful boost it gives) 45 points. Fasetious comment now, so we keep Silva, get rid of all the players that cannot play Silvas system and bring in those that can, so that would mean bringing in players from Hull, Watford or maybe Olympiakos if they are young enough still. Just take time out to listen to him, it is just pure rhetoric, reminds me of some of those Uni lecturers when they had been out on the beer the night before.

11 Feb 2019 21:34:37
I would agree DFS if we hadn't been playing brilliantly October and November. Those months were no fluke and the liverpool game along with a congested fixture list has done us in.
Most of these players aren't mentally strong enough to recover as we've seen time and again under previous managers.
In Silva I see a manager chopping and changing trying to get them back to where they were.
Yes he has made mistakes but who doesn't? He's a young manager and that is what I wanted, a young up and coming manager. Not an Allardyce, Redknapp or O Neill.

Do you think Benitez or Moyes or Howe is going to walk into this club and all of a sudden these misfits are going to break into the top 6?
No way. At least under this manager we have seen a glimpse of what he can do with a fit and firing team, something I haven't seen since Martinez 1st season.

We have sacked too many managers, so why are we only prepared to give this guy 3/ 4 of a season when Moyes, Martinez and Koeman got longer? It's complete madness calling for his head already.
Pep, Klopp and Benitez all struggled in their 1st season despite spending big money. All were backed by their clubs and all have since done well. We will never do the same if supporters give up at the first sign of tough times.


Forget predictions our average of points will put us on around 47 and that's if we don't improve.

12 Feb 2019 09:02:48
He hasn't lasted longer than 6 months in the prem, the pattern being a good 3 or 4 month hit followed by a slump. He has now been with us 7 or 8 months and no sign of the slump recovering. Liverpool did affect the Squad but two months later, Silva has not got it out of their heads, come on! What does that say about his competence.

12 Feb 2019 11:41:40
I agree with Smit666

I get all the reservations about Silva and I know that sacking Mourinho has been great for United but I have 2 words to say to that: Romelu Lukaku

We should hold onto Silva until the end of the season at least.

The medium-term strategy has to be to get the club some stability, which we are doing; not sacking managers every few months and not buying loads of new players only to find them surplus to requirements because we get a new manager in who doesn't want to play them.

We have to:
*get players off the books which is happening,
*see out previous manager's contracts without adding to this, also happening,
*get players in who can be decent long term which I think is true of Zouma, Gomes and Digne (not sure about Mina but he's been injured a lot so hard to say)
*give the youth a chance which is happening with Davies, Lookman, DCL and Kenny,
*avoid panic buying which is happening.
*get the team playing a more modern game which involves pressing and other things which is largely happening but.

. the bit that's clearly NOT happening is the zonal marking. However, as Kevin Ratcliffe said in a recent article, it takes a long time to get players to do this but once it clicks it works. Sure it is not the only system out there but there's no one system that always works otherwise everyone would use it. We aren't going down so the only sensible plan for the rest of the season is to get the team used to the zonal system and making it work and hopefully soon so we can get some clean sheets and start winning some games. If he clearly hasn't got the Zonal making sorted by the end of the season despite bringing in 3 defenders, then maybe.

{Ed025's Note - good post that bunnyman..

10 Feb 2019 18:27:48
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10 Feb 2019 16:46:52
Away from the doom and gloom, this summer it looks like we need 6 or 7 players. What does everyone else think?
I'm thinking.
AM
RW
RB
ST
CDM
CB X 2.

10 Feb 2019 17:44:53
Smit
Because our season is over and we have and continue to play with effectively 6 or 7 out field players, Sigurdsson, Gomes Walcott and more recently Richarlison are passengers, I would play the younger talent to test their mettle and see if, with an extended run, they could cut the mustard in the EPL.
I would go as far as recalling Williams and Dowell and throw them in the mix. Williams may bring the industry and bite in midfield along side Gana, who was brilliant yesterday, and Davies, with McCarthy and Dowell offering an alternative, using Dowell in a Sheedy like role wide left with his educated left foot.
Of course this is never going to happen because our technically naive and stubborn manager will continue to pick out of form players and hope for improved performances and different results.

10 Feb 2019 18:12:09
Regardless what formation we play and play youngsters. We lack firepower therefore let’s get more solid. 442 at home and 451 away.
Pickford
Kenny
Keane
Zouma
Digne
Gueye
Gomes
Lookman
Richarlison
Calvert-Lewin
Tosun (not the answer but no other striker)

Away from home swap Tosun with Bernard or Sigurdson in a no10.

At the moment it’s more 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 and our fullbacks are left exposed and midfield is weak.

10 Feb 2019 19:18:31
Sorry forgot about Tom Davies who has been one bright spot over last fortnight.

{Ed025's Note - very much so STB..

10 Feb 2019 21:15:02
Trouble is we said that the last 3 summers.

10 Feb 2019 21:25:06
I went the midweek game against City and Tom Davies was everywhere, until we brought Siggerson on.

Nothing against Siggerson but Tom Davies seems to excell when Siggerson is on the bench.

{Ed025's Note - most of the team do bignev, hes been a liability for a while now mate..

10 Feb 2019 21:48:22
Spot on Ed, there lyes our problem, Silva mixes it against City and we played a lot better, then he goes back to the same players dropped against City, and starts them against Watford.

{Ed025's Note - thats one of the reasons hes in trouble mate..

11 Feb 2019 09:51:56
StB I think you are spot on pragmatic football is what we need and I would play the same formations at the moment but I would also get rid of zonal marking go back to man to man and make a decision on the defence on how they play defending not so much going forward. Sorry but I said this when SA was in charge why loose 4-3 when you can draw 0-0. And yes I would rather watch rubbish winning football than pretty loosing football before you all kick off. I don't believe that at the current time we have the stability to pick and choose players or managers that would be able to play expansive winning football unless the manager is given time, who ever that manager is. Any manager of quality will need 3-4 seasons to get it right, Everton is not a short term fix and in my opinion we need to accept that and live with what we have. If the management think Silva is the man then so be it.

11 Feb 2019 11:30:50
Said it for years SA90, same as when we all played, play to win by doing your best. 1-0 I would take everytime.

10 Feb 2019 12:28:05
The only press conference I remember Moyes smiling was the one which he was answering questions about his new position as Man Utd manager whilst still being in charge at Everton. His utter disrespect for us then should remove his name from ANY and ALL future planning for E. F. C. His time has been and gone. No need to remind everyone of how negative he was regarding top 6 teams, knife to gunfight etc. Thanks but no thanks. As for Silva, I hope he is given at least another 2 transfer windows to bring stability. Our problems didn’t start when he arrived but when Farhad Moshiri brought wealth and with it a somewhat naive expectation of an instant ability to compete and challenge at the very highest level. I hate to admit but a lot of players use us as passage to a greater end. We have become a club in constant transition and in my opinion have in the past been too hasty in sacking/ appointing some managers, Koeman/ Alladyce. First and foremost we need to get to the end of this season, regroup and hope that we can go forward with more stability, a more measured sense of expectations and a appearance of a unified club. Just as an addition I think we’ve lost that player/ players that all teams need when things get a bit gritty they can grab everyone else by the scruff and battle through.

{Ed025's Note - good post that hugster..

10 Feb 2019 14:12:11
Everton is one of many investments by Mr Moshri, it is naive to think that it is Mr Moshris money funding transfers etc! As has been pointed out many times doesn't work like that. You could give Mr Silva another 4 windows but unless he changes philosophy, we could well be in the Championship by then.

10 Feb 2019 15:14:24
I agree re moyes Hugster and the need for stability, but we are really in danger of getting sucked in to relegation place if our form continues. If Silva is not capable of steadying the sinking ship, should be be allowed to continue at the rudder? It’s not even like the teams form is indifferent, it’s really at crisis point right now and there doesn’t seem to be many signs of things changing, so I’m thinking that he has one or two games to save his job. I was all for giving him time, then giving him until the summer, but now it looks like Cardiff is a make or break for him.

As for who is next and why we are in such a mess, that’s a different story.

10 Feb 2019 15:00:37
I never eluded to his money funding transfers merely that it changed our expectations.

10 Feb 2019 21:17:07
At least we had identity under Moyes and teams knew they would have to play well, at the moment we are the laughing stock of the prem.

10 Feb 2019 21:26:55
Bet he would not buy a new pair of Kecks, if Moshi invited him to his house.

10 Feb 2019 11:10:50
One of the things we need to realise is this. Silva is going to get til the end of the season. No point getting rid now. We are not going down. Also if Benitez is the man we are after, he is out of contract at the end of the season. Therefore no compensation required. He has a house on the Wirral and his family still live there I think. My only concern is he won champs league 14 years ago. Does he still have the required tactical nouse or should we be looking for an up and coming manager. I'd love simeone but is he just a foreign fat Sam.

10 Feb 2019 11:28:53
I reckon he is on borrowed time mate, will not last long especially if we Heaven forbid. loose against Cardiff who will be up for it now they are out the bottom three, he will be walking on thin ice till then.

{Ed025's Note - very much so mate..

10 Feb 2019 11:57:29
11 games left, 17 days till we play again, be interesting, if no change, I would say it is almost certainly Silvas coaching inability. If we end up hiring Bielsa, I used to wear patterned and hide in bushes, if he needs help.

10 Feb 2019 15:21:58
Rafa Benitez is working wonders at Newcastle with very little money. I think he is still a master tactician and although he may not take us to champion league team status within the next 4 years, I feel he would definitely take us up a level.

I find the hate for him because of his Liverpool connection a bit absurd. Yes he called us a small club, but I do believe that that was taken out of context/ lost in translation. He was referring to where we were at at that tones as a football side and that when clubs of lesser ability shall we say, played against Liverpool, they set it to stifle and frustrate his side, which we did.

Many, many great players have come from across the park (Sheedy, Ablett, Watson, Harper etc etc) and turned out to be great and loyal servants to our club so why shouldn’t it be the same for a manager? I just don’t get this blind hatred toward anything LFC.

IMHO, he is the best proven manager out there at the moment who we have a realistic chance of landing, so he would be my first choice.

10 Feb 2019 09:30:18
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10 Feb 2019 07:29:01
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