Everton Banter Archive June 10 2013

 

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10 Jun 2013 18:39:31
To be honest not overly joyed with the thought of Moses coming to us. He reminds me of wright Phillips. Lots of pace can get past people but consistently makes the wrong decisions. Just look at his goal ratio. I am sure there are better options who are cheaper and won't lose to the African cup of nations!


Eric dysfunctional

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Are you ever happy?

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10 Jun 2013 18:20:56
Good luck to Davie Weir as new Sheffield UTD boss, great servant of EFC and total gentleman. (Wavertree Blue)

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10 Jun 2013 17:29:08
Not a rumour but just wondering if we want strength in depth why not raid some of these half decent players that have been released by the club for example

> Di santo
>Carlton cole
> Schwartzer

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Di santo couldn't get in wigans team.
Cole always injured and no very good.
Schwartzer. my grandad is younger

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Most are released for a reason mate. There eithet rubbish or past sell by date.

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Because they're all awful

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> only as a squad player
> no
> yes, but only on a low wage as I think he's 40.

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You have to be joking those 3 players are not even worth a wage they have been released for a reason because they are crap.

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10 Jun 2013 16:44:21
Ed do you think Jozy Altidore is good enough? And do you think he's a realistic option/target? {Ed025's Note - not good enough IMO mate..

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I think jozy has matured a lot since his loan spell at hull, he could be a very good impact player

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10 Jun 2013 16:41:30
outs=
Felliani 24mil
gueye 2.5mil
mucha free
hitz free
jelavic 5.5mil

Total=32mil

ins=
Fer 7.5 mil
bruno martins indi 4.5mil
joel=3mil
salvio=6mil
diame=3.5mil
moses=9mil
ruben castro=5mil

Total=38. 5

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Doubt we'd sell jely for less than 8 and I've give him 1 more season
Salvio would be more than that
Castro is 31

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Benfica bought salvio for 13.5million euros and he has had agreat season si no way 6mil

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10 Jun 2013 19:32:56
U can have moses for £18m no less or keep dreaming! {Ed025's Note - you will get £8-10m tops...we are not southern softies..

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We'll never get 2. 5 for gueye

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10 Jun 2013 16:36:55
Considering this is an exceptionally slow news day, I'll take this opportunity to wish David Weir good luck with his new job as Shef Utd boss. Would have loved for him to stay and keep our defence in shape under Martinez, but this is a fantastic opportunity for him and I, and I assume all of you, wish him the best of luck.

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Here, here.

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10 Jun 2013 16:36:50
Gonzalo Higuain anyone? Not far off in price to whome we have been linked with

Rich84

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I can imagine his wages would be out our price range

TC

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10 Jun 2013 16:30:26
I have got that feeling Coleman could turn into a world class full back I thought he was outstanding for us last season and is very much taking to international football in his stride I hope he has been tied down to a long contract as I can see a few clubs coming in for him and he is young great find by moyes and scouting team 60k I think we paid for him what a bargain very much our right back now and can do what baines does for us on the right boy I think these players will enjoy Martinez brand of football

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100% agree. He was my player of the season last year.

After his little hiccup earlier in the season he came back strong and defensively got better and better.

Going forward he was better than Mirallas on the right who was more effective on the left or centre.

What a find.

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Recently signed a 5 1/2 year deal.

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The guy is class, his strength has come on leaps and bounds and in turn his defending has come with it, going forward he took over from bainesy in the 2nd half the season and he has nailed on the rb place for me

MikeDeBlue

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10 Jun 2013 16:24:35
Congratulations to David Weir on becoming Manager of Sheffield Utd.

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10 Jun 2013 16:20:09
I'm not sure we will have as much as 15m. Maybe including wages for new players and fees, unless they are going to increase the debt.

I would imagine getting rid of some of the high earners like Johnny (62,000 p/w, dear o dear) and the loss of Phil's wage will help but we need to stay in control of our wage budget and look to break even/profit.

Fellaini going might not be a bad thing either as this also frees up 78,000 p/w and could fund 2 to 3 (more 2) players wages.

We can't let this tv deal be wasted. Although its not massive in comparison to some, if we can start to reduce the debt now we will be in a better shape in the future and we would become more attractive to buyers for the club.

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Mucha 20k p/w
Neville 40k p/w
Heitinga 60k p/w
Gueye 10k p/w
Hitz 20k p/w
150k p/w saving 3/4 decent salaries there

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It's a sad state when we think 15 mill for players is a decent amount. Teams are paying that for one average player. Kenwright needs felliani sold and off the wage bill to enable Martinez to buy 2 or more players. He has hinted at it already.

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You're right 15m isn't enough we should spend money we don't have that's works for everyone else

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10 Jun 2013 13:06:10
Gents, I have just been looking at the PL released players and it got me thinking about career ruining moves. So just for a bit of fun who do you think has made the worst career move since the introduction of the PL I'm going for:

David Bentley.


SA90

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Dan Gosling.
Domo

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Francis Jeffers. Greedy little toad.

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10 Jun 2013 15:15:38
Out of released players bentley but all together i'd say shavchenko it wasnt the price it was the expectation to do well bad mistake leaving milan

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10 Jun 2013 15:33:26
Jan mucha

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Andy Carroll

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Franny jeffers
sweetpea01

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Talk about you reap what you so. Gosling has got to be that the grass is not always greener.

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Shevchenko

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Steven Pienaar - Everton to Tottenham

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Anyone who went to qpr last season!

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John Bostock - Crystal Palace to Tottenham Hotspur.
Belgian-Bunn

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Robhinio to City anyone? pkblue

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10 Jun 2013 12:43:29
If you were to take all the paper rumours as fact, then we would be playing 4 wingers and 2 wing backs next season.
Need a striker and 1/2 quality midfielders first IMO.
Will be interesting to see how this goes. To all those picking teams for next season, please have some respect for Ossie. Yes he ran out of steam near the end, but overall had a great season culminating in being picked for his country. So please pick whoever you want, but at least make sure the man makes the bench. Thank you.

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10 Jun 2013 15:22:27
Agreed we cannot listen to all the rumours as it's a recipe for the mad house. What we need are signings that will move the team on to the next level. what the side is really short of is PACE both in midfield and up front. Yes Super Kev and one or two others are nifty but players with real pace make a lot of difference and frighten the opposition. So come on Robbie get your stop watch out.

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It makes a good change not to be linked to defenders all the time.

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Think Ossie will be a squad player next year and we do need pace fortunately that's what we're being linked too Moses, mcmannaman, Kone, abuyemang.

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We need 1 keeper 2 defender 2 midfielders and 2 forwards. We have already lost mucha, Neville and hitzel so we are already 3 down. Jonny and felliani may also go so we would need 7 at least

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Just because were linked with 4 wingers doesn't mean were going to sign them all, teams always have a plan A plan B and plan C, so it is entirely possible we are looking at all of these players

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10 Jun 2013 12:32:13
The last post regarding Everton being worried that he might get injured and not being able to play again is an excellent point. I don't get why people have an issue that we needed assurance that his knee is ok without dreaming up stories with no basis in fact and no statement to support.
We nee competition for places to step up another level. Therefire I just don't agree that being linked to midfielders instanly means they will be a replacement.

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10 Jun 2013 12:23:23
Really think we should go after Toby Alderweireld would be an asset

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Agreed quality prospect

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10 Jun 2013 12:14:33
Why do people on here keep asking how much we have to spend its an impossible question. If Martinez fancies a player and bids for him we will likely get him.

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10 Jun 2013 11:53:24
I see Pereira has gone to Al Ahli in Saudi. Does this question his ambition? Ah well no matter now anyway. IMWT COYB. (Wavertree Blue)

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10 Jun 2013 10:26:04
Jens Grahl would be a nice back up GK

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10 Jun 2013 10:08:41
Errr, I don't know why but I'm starting to like the new badge.

I know everyone says we don't need our name on it but in some situations like maybe mini summer tournaments abroad or promoting ourselves in the far east or USA maybe it helps to promote the team/brand recognition to have the name within it?

press 'believable' if you now like or don't mind it, and 'unbelieveable' if you still don't like/prefer not.

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I like it to mate. (my real name is Ammar) PKBLUE

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Button? Doh!

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Yeah - he deliberately put it on wrong page

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10 Jun 2013 09:52:00
Luis Alberto looks a tidy player strongly linked with the dark side like to see a bid for him.

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Luis Alberto a tidy player? Does he fold his kit neatly and clean his boots after every match and training session?

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10 Jun 2013 09:08:00
Robles 3m
Dragovic 4m
Fer 7m
Moses loan
Honda 3m
Aubemyang 10m
27m total
Raise 10m from heitinga gueye and vic
17m from BK/sky

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Other clubs - all awash with the TV money - will be competing for these players and will inflate the transfer fees.

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Would love Aubameyang but he's leaving St Etienne for champions league football. A move to Dortmund or Milan is looking likely putting clubs like us out of contention for him. Could see him working wonders under RM though so here's hoping.

Others look good, hopefully we can bring in either Fer or McCarthy because I think we're looking alright in midfield with a young addition like one of them. Barkley will step up next season let's hope too.

Young CB definitely needed so Dragovic is a good shout while Honda would be amazing. Another young winger would be good to back up Pienaar as well as a striker of course!

AussieBlue

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10 Jun 2013 06:04:42
You people are who say get rid of felli are crazy, he is one of the best players in the epl, if we have some money to spend why get rid of a great player, he makes the team stronger and if we do get some more decent players he is only going to get better aswell!

but realistically we don't even need to get rid of any players we have a strong team as it is, a few new good players off the bench would be nice. maybe another st or move mirallas up front.

we didn't lose that many games this season, just draw to many, and we if didn't have some butt refs who made a lot of bad calls you never know we might have made the top 4.

even though we got wigans coach which I don't really like cas he battles for relegation like every year, I support him 100% COYB!

AUSTimmy24 :P

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Don't think people want to get rid of him, just view it as the only way to put real money in the hands of new manager!

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I bet Martinez only ever dreamed of signing a player of Fellainis quality so no going nowhere unless he himself asks!

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10 Jun 2013 00:06:49
Anyone see fer today? He played quality when he came on, scored aswell in both games, he looks the dogs *******

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I would love fer him to come here, I think we have the money fer him, should have signed him in January though, it's just not fer.

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09 Jun 2013 23:37:15
Ed your information is wrong I have it on very good authority that Roberto has been given £8m to spend by Uncle Bill plus the £24m we will get for Fellaini who will definitely leave. {Ed025's Note - you must be right then mate..

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Am sure we will have more then £8mill to spend. And felli will go nowhere not untill next season at least he wouldn't risk moving before the World cup and risk his place in the Belgium squad incase he warms the bench at another club when he knows he'll play nearly every game for us same goes for mirallis IMO

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How can bill only give him 8 million then in january we were going to pay 9 million for fer, so with that money plus extra t. v. money I believe ed is correct. i'd rather believe ed than a random post. please all let's just wait and see what happens.

blue daz

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8 miilon to spend on good authority, u get some belters on here. no one knows hopefully more my guess would be close to 40 million with, Felliani money 15 if he stays

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The budget so far as I have been told, is 25m plus whatever is recouped in out going sales.

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Fellaini going nowhere that's a fact martinez will get 15-20 million to spemd and as for the person who likes the new badge he needs his head testing badge is awful. blueskittle needs to contribute more as like me he talks a lot of sense.

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09 Jun 2013 23:18:46
Here's one for you ed cast your mind back to last pre season. If I remember correctly Brenda had three envalopes he was going to open at the end of he season did he open them do you no. LIAM! {Ed025's Note - i dont really care liam..

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Who gives an airborne coitus about the darkside?

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Ha. love it ED. who gives a you know what about them lot.

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09 Jun 2013 22:56:30
Hey Ed, if we got Alcaraz would he be a squad player or starting 11? {Ed025's Note - that would depend on pre-season..

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09 Jun 2013 22:29:26
ed how much money do u think we will have to spend I looked at previous posts it don't mention our budget, do u think itll be more than 50 mil?

stephen efc kelly {Ed025's Note - £15-20m..

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£50m what in the world have you been smoking?!

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09 Jun 2013 22:24:29
20m budget + 5 for heitinga and gueye
In
Dragovic 4m
Robles 2m
Honda 3m
Fer 6m
Aubameyamg 10m
Moses loan

Howard/Robles
Coleman/hibbo jags/Duffy distin/dragovic baines/Oviedo
Gibson/ludstrum felli/fer
Mirrales/Naismith Honda/Barkley piennar/Moses
Aubameyamg/jelavic

Top 4 here we come

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