Everton Banter Archive August 11 2018

11 Aug 2018 23:10:01
Whether it was a red card or not, it was an unforced error and given Jordan should really have saved the free kick as well, i'm happy we were never really torn apart at any point. Mina and Zouma will only make us stronger as well as Digne. Bernard in for Snids and i think its exciting times ahead. Special praise for Richarlison, thought he was excellent today. So refreshing to be away from last years dross. 3 points would have been great but we still got one point more than i think we would have done last year given the same circumstances. In Marco we trust. COYB NSNO.

11 Aug 2018 23:27:38
Yeah Pickford moved the wrong way but he did make a great 1 on 1 save. I'm only saying because I think too much is made of his mistakes without taking account for some outstanding saves. Maybe it's the cross the England number 1 has to carry? And it was still a wicked free-kick.

12 Aug 2018 07:28:56
Spot on Myteam. There’s plenty to give Pickford praise for. He’s still very young for a keeper so let’s just enjoy the fact that the expectation is high for the lad which hasn’t happened for us really since Big Nev.

11 Aug 2018 23:09:10
Really happy with that performance today. shame the ref got over excited when he had to step up, we were cruising until that moment. But the desire was back today and we looked hungry - a moment rarely seen last season.

Let’s hope the competition for places is keeping everyone on their toes. Onwards and upwards lads! Oh, and Richarlison’s second. absolute class.

11 Aug 2018 21:38:50
If Fred didn't get a booking then how do you justify a straight red for jags?
Enough said.

11 Aug 2018 23:16:01
Not a red card, a yellow card, or even a foul, it's a contact sport, he played the ball, FIRST, contact thereafder is insidental.
Perhaps the FA might ponder on why not one english official was asked to go to the world cup, it's not complecated, we my have a great competition, but we have had to stack that with talent from the rest of the world, perhaps we should consider bringing some of there refs. Today proved ours are not up to the job.

{Ed0333's Note - your spelling is a bit off today fella.

11 Aug 2018 23:34:12
Who's arsed about spelling. We all now wat e memes, Ted0003.

{Ed0333's Note - some of us still care about the English language mate. Maybe I’m just getting old and cranky. In fact I know I am.

11 Aug 2018 23:53:10
How cures abot spelin wee al now wat woody mens. don't b so pricke Ted o332.

{Ed0333's Note - lol.

12 Aug 2018 00:35:01
ed333, I MIGHT BE DYSLEXI, but at least i'm not a smart ass.
Not that I need explain myself to you, but I also have a degree in economics and an iq over 140,still i'm sure with your great spelling you must be much smarter than me.

{Ed0333's Note - I don’t profess to be smart and I’m sure you are infinitely more learned than me my friend, to be honest fella it’s not really hard I’m a working class guy with basic education and a low IQ. I couldn’t never be in your cerebral realm but don’t use your dyslexia as an excuse mate you can use spellcheck. My wife’s dyslexic she uses spellcheck when she writes.

12 Aug 2018 07:28:28
To be fair, Wood, touting the fact you have a degree and a high IQ does make you sound like a smart arse!

12 Aug 2018 07:32:37
Plus I do t think it’s right to call someone out on spelling mistakes if there are dyslexic then you make it worse by continuing to do it after you are told, that’s not right!

12 Aug 2018 08:17:37
And let’s get it back to the football banter.

{Ed025's Note - good idea ST..

12 Aug 2018 07:19:04
If he’s typing away on an iPhone then it’s easy to miss words out or spell worlds incorrectly, plus iPhones have a tendency to auto correct which is a pain in the arse, he could of been writing it on a bus or a train, got distracted, shouldn’t have to proof read things before posting on a banter site, he’s no publishing an article.

{Ed0333's Note - supreme advocacy Erin Brockavich...you win the case. Your client is free to go. All charges are duly dropped.

11 Aug 2018 21:19:57
No drama today new boy's to come in, Am impressed with the effort that was shown today. and Marco needs no brolly. Well done lads looking forward to B'mouth Saturday.

11 Aug 2018 21:14:49
*WE fear knowone.

11 Aug 2018 21:00:14
That was a difficult start. Not wolves but having to have that guy reffing the game. He looked way out of his depth and should have took a minute for the jags tackle. However, for me, Jags should not have put himself in that position and caused his own downfall.

Aside from that I don't think anyone let themselves down. I know some are having a go at Snids but he didn't have a bad game. Even contributing to some forward passes for a change.


Defnsively we looked really good today. The first goal was a mistake by Pickford and his looked way off his best with some terrible kicking. However, I blame this on the world cup and only just coming back.

Keane looked better when Holgate came on and Holgate for me added the pace this defence misses. Baines looked much like himself but Seamus was utterly brilliant. He was good going forward and at the back was an absolute rock.

Theo seemed a little out of sorts attacking wise but did do his duties pretty well. Same with Sig. We used the wings a lot today and therefore Sig wasnt as influencial as usual but then taken off due to the sending off ended his day early.
Plus up front we have a guy that will run all day. He should have put Theo through but I can't blame him for ahving a go.

Ricky. £40m. Waste of money. Paul Merson dear me. I hope this guy is okay because he is a superstar about to happen. He was brilliant not only going forward but he helped the left defense and Baines all afternoon. He's still a kid and you can tell that he has so much more to come.

Finally, Silva done a really good job today. He had them calm after the red card in possession and organised without. The zonal marking for the corners worked perfectly with everyone attacking the ball in their area and had the flanks flooded so they couldn't get past and get the ball in the box.

The second goal was dissapointing but Seamus didn't know whether to move out and close down the cross or stay with the attacker just behind him. Snids had moved a bit too deep for me inside the box and should have stationed himself on the edge but tired legs probably got the best of them. The two CB's marked the space instead of being closer to the men with Holgate two yards to far away.

As for Wolves, I think they may struggle. They don't seem to play with any pace or urgency and are far too deep. I was expecting a lot more from them to be honest but that back line of theirs is pretty terrible. It's early for them as well and they are intigrating a lot of players so who knows.

Overall though it was a good start for us and they will gain spirit from not only getting a point with ten men but also in how they played. You feel we will only get better.

COYB NSNO.

11 Aug 2018 22:00:33
Agree with all of that. Red card could have been a hello on another day but he should know better than to go in off the floor with his studs up. I’ve seen players get away with far worse but it was reckless.

I think once Mina is in alongside Keane, Holgate or ZOuma and Gomes is in for Schnids we’ll cause teams a lot of problems. Particularly when you’ve got Lookman, Bernard and Niasse to come on with half an hour left to terrorise tiring defenders.

I think Wolves will get better once all the new players have settled in.

11 Aug 2018 20:19:11
Hats off to the way with 10 men we still chased the game and tried so hard to get a winner. Tough on Jags. Was it really a sending off? If so I expect we will play lots of games this season against 10 men! Well done the whole club and well done the players on the pitch. No blame anywhere for anything from me. They all gave 110% and no less!

11 Aug 2018 21:02:21
It was good to see the confidence back in them Degsy. I don't think it was a sending off either and the ref for me was a bit clueless. A decent start and should give us all confidence we can get three points next time out.

11 Aug 2018 21:02:59
I’m gutted we didn’t win for the players sake. They deserved more than a draw. Great character to take the lead with a man disadvantage. If we show that kind of spirit at Goodison the place will be rocking.

Wolves definitely have quality, but I think they’ll finish about 3 or 4 places below us.

11 Aug 2018 20:14:06
I thought that when we went 2-1up. We should of brought Walcott off to put another midfielder on. They had too much space. Even though I am happy with at least a point.

11 Aug 2018 20:00:38
Can we get off Keanes back. I personally think he had a good game, and you could hardly blame him for the second. The guy had all day to make the cross and Keane was marking two in the middle. If you want to blame anyone then blame the midfielders for not blocking the cross in the first place.

11 Aug 2018 20:03:57
Schneiderlin should have done more so that goal was also on him. I lost count of the number of times Keane played the ball straight out for a throw though. Thought Holgate looked far more assured than Keane.

11 Aug 2018 19:25:54
Sigs off instead of snids 😂😂😂 yea we been here before 😩.

{Ed025's Note - snide should never have been on for me griffo..

11 Aug 2018 19:37:03
A good game 2-2 instead of 1-1 and once Silva deems them ready the two new CB's will make all the difference. We need legs in defence. As for Schneiderlin, will someone please tell me wtf successive managers see in him that we are missing. Nearly choked on my dinner when he made a forward pass, I have seen more committed tackles from 11 year olds on a Sunday morning park than those he makes, it is called timing Schneiderlin lad.

11 Aug 2018 19:55:02
Cant fault our cbs for me, its always been our dead midfield, i wldnt have snide or gana in at all, no point winning the ball back to do nothing with it? But its out the way now, can't wait to see the new boys smash it 😎.

11 Aug 2018 20:09:07
I thought Gana had a decent game. Broke play up very well and looked to push forward. Problem is that he’s having to do the work of two people. Hopefully we’ll just play Gana at home once Mina and Zouma are bedded in, then we can have another more attack-minded midfielder.

Baines and Coleman had very good games IMO. Tosun and Walcott put shifts in but had no supply after the sending off. Richarlison was outstanding.

{Ed025's Note - good summary there windsor..

11 Aug 2018 21:01:20
What I meant by two new CB's in, is competition. Didn't Silva say he wanted two players for every position, well he has that now. I am not including Jags in this, the lad has been terrific for our Club (and Baines to be fair) . Think Mina will come in along side Keane at first, then Digne for Baines and Gomes for Schneiderlin. Can't think where we are going to slot in the little fella, thought our 3 behind Tosun (going to be some player that lad) , played really well.

11 Aug 2018 18:18:10
Well that's Jags finished I feel, his legs are gone and we can't keep doing basic mistakes.

11 Aug 2018 18:26:28
I thought it was a cracking tackle. But yeah generally he is toast. Great servant.

11 Aug 2018 12:18:23
Once our new stadium is built will we be liable for ground rent?
If so does it affect the FFP for Everton in any way?

{Ed002's Note - The land is to leased once planning permission is given - so the lease has to be paid. There is sadly no point in me explaining the FFP implications.}

11 Aug 2018 18:41:32
Thanks Ed,
I just wasn't sure if ground rent was to be paid on top of the lease fee. My mind can once again be rested.

{Ed002's Note - The lease that is agreed at the moment just covers the land, not the stadium.}

11 Aug 2018 12:54:29
ToffeeAl, yes Patricio will be playing. Uncle Jorge holds his registration. Don't worry about our boys gelling, they all went to school together in Portugal.

11 Aug 2018 11:04:05
Hopefully we can pick good result up today always hard game against newly promoted team on first day. Think richarlison will score today.

11 Aug 2018 10:26:19
Hopes for the season. Better football. High league position. Results against top sides. Away wins. Corners beating first man. Imaginative free kicks. Patient fans, especially in August.
Felt we rolled over too easily last season, so full commitment and will take a bit of nastiness thrown in.

11 Aug 2018 10:32:26
Not hoping for too much then Tedster. 😂.

11 Aug 2018 10:47:17
Got to be a bit greedy at times Smit. If most of the wish list comes off we'll be happy blues. Always a glass half full person me.

11 Aug 2018 12:09:04
Away performances against the so called top 6 will be where I'm looking for improvement.
I know it won't be easy but if I can see stats that show shots on target and good possession then I will feel happier.
I would also like to see us stick to an attacking formation home and away and not resort to a lone striker.
I feel that with the attacking options we have, we should attempting to score our way to victory rather than bore our way.

11 Aug 2018 08:30:37
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th August 2018

11 Aug 2018 02:18:17
I think we have just gone through what has to be our best transfer window in years

Yes, some might argue that some of the signings are untested in the Premier League. Yes some were second stream players for their previous clubs. Yes some seemed a bit expensive.


But


They are all quality players who have commanded big fees before, They are all quality (I'm going to keep repeating quality) players that answer our problems in central defence and left back. They are quality players that improved enormously our flexibility/ options in midfield and attack.


At the same time Brands, Silva and their team have moved on many of our top earners who weren't going to get starting positions in the new structure


Great respect to Marcel and Marco for doing this. Great respect for Moshiri for giving them 110% support. Some have said he not an Evertonian but he has backed us up big time this close season and to be fair in the past with the stadium etc. If another non Evertonian, Usmanov, comes in with him and shows the same support we will be extremely lucky


I Echo what some others have said. It now up to us as supporters to SUPPORT the team while it beds in. For the new signings it's the start of pre season again plus the old squad has to learn how to play with them and visa versa. IT WILL TAKE TIME, OUR SUPPORT AND PATIENCE


I believe we took massive steps forward this window. We might now stumble for a bit but then - watch us go


COYB NSNO.

11 Aug 2018 07:21:55
I agree with all you say bw with one little addition. I don't know if the quality is as high as you state. only time will tell us that. but for sure the positions and age of the team has been addressed the way I wanted. As you know, I moaned and moaned about the age of Jags and Baines. I moaned that we had let Williams and Mori go without replacing them. I also moaned and moaned about the imbalance of the left side of the team. both dfensively and midfield. That has been addressed. I moaned at how we were so poor at defending set pieces and were particularly poor in the air. Mina should certainly help there. I also moaned about a lack of creativity, bothe Richarlison and Bernard have brought some creativity into the squad. I moaned about Shneiderlin. we will have to wait and see how the manager sets up the team on that one. but yes all you say is true and I am a happy bunny as the season starts. Even if we are thumped today we have players ready to address all my concerns of the last 2 years. I must add that Tosun and Walcott were also in this and rather than slag Allardyce off, I would say he did actually stabilise a club in decline and did his little bit too. So now we wait and see what we are producing in 5 or 6 games. By then we should have an idea of how the team will be set up and if the "quality" is as you say. I certainly know the fitness and age will be better. And the balance of the left side!

{Ed025's Note - 2 things that this window has proven ...1 everton are trying their best to get back in the big time..2..degsy is a bloody old moaner.. :)

11 Aug 2018 08:22:28
Agree totally with Degsy.

11 Aug 2018 09:05:40
Degsy Every signing is a gamble. Has Pogba truly proved himself yet to Mourino, has Shaw, Lindelöf, Rojo, Martial? And that is just some of the doubts at Manu United never mind the ones that haven't made it at Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea and Arsenal


No one, I repeat no one is guaranteed success but what Everton have demonstrated is a willingness to go and try and succeed. Instead of still bringing up doubts we need to shout out the positives. Who would you have brought in different? I can guarantee you that there would be others doubting your picks.


You've said it, they have addressed left back, they have addressed an aging defence, they have addressed creativity in both midfield and attack. They might not have got it totally right - only time will tell but at least until then just get behind them and SUPPORT THEM!

COYB NSNO.

11 Aug 2018 09:07:37
All we need now Degsy is Pickford to grow a couple of inches and all your dreams will have been answered
🤣🤣🤣🤣.

11 Aug 2018 09:24:33
I hope you have learned a valuable lesson this summer Degsy.

The pages and millions of words you've wrote on here this past few months and the negativity you've shown has been completely unjustified and hysterical hyperbole.

To the supporters on here that have allowed the manager, DOF, Board time to make things right this summer - WELL DONE in SUPPORTING your club!

They went out and done exactly what EVERY Evertonian this year wanted and delivered a great window for us all.

Before you try Degsy to take the credit, none of this was because of you. They didn't see what you or anyone on here wrote and thought "hey that Degsy knows his stuff". You saw nothing different in what we needed to any of us at the club, we just had a more supportive way of going about it. It was all the club with no input from one of us and that is where the credit lies.

For the supporters who have given them the time, you are the ones we need at the match every game supporting the club. The ones that didn't give ultimatums of "i'll give it 5 games". Or slag off the manager at every opportunity with unrealistic comparisons of his commitment and ability.

The others like the Degsy's and DFS's, I hope and pray you either stay away if your going to moan all game or you put it to one side for 90 minutes and give your all in SUPPORTING the men on the pitch.

Why? Because it's going to take time. We are going to get beat in some matches. We are going to play badly in some games. Some games we'll look absolutely shocking and bloody awful. We may in some games look worse than we ever have done.

That is the pain we are going to have to get through.

However, over time the players will get used to the style we want to play. Understand the instructions from the manager. More windows to get more players that fit Silvas phylosophy.

For me we have tried every window, every season with every manager and player but it's never been the right fit for whatever reason.

However, this summer feels different and I'm always happy to put my faith in the club. Its not blind but it is patient and it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

{Ed025's Note - to be fair john degsy and DFS have expressed an opinion on why and how we were not performing and for me thats fine, negative yes but blind faith can also be a problem and it would be a dull old life if we all thought alike mate..

11 Aug 2018 09:33:27
He can borrow a pair of my old platform bottom shoes. That used to boost me a couple of inches

Anyway Smitt - did you get all you birthday presents?

11 Aug 2018 10:35:55
Pretty much so BW. Schneiderlin is still with is, but you can't have everything, right.

11 Aug 2018 10:55:19
No - but maybe next window. With the signings we've made I think Gueye, Gomes, even Sig could all be looked at unless he shows a better attitude. It's up to him and it's good to not get everything you want all at once. It's character forming I'm told. that's why I describe myself as charasmatic.

11 Aug 2018 11:19:12
I get that ed and oppinions are great especially when they differ from mine as I get to see the other side of things but I'll be honest these two can be draining. Degsy's 5 or 6 games here is shameful.

Me though on a lighter note cannot wait to get stuck into this season. I'll take whatever comes with a pinch of salt both ways good or bad.

Bring it on!

{Ed025's Note - im not expecting miracles to start with john, but i think we will slowly improve as the season goes on and when the new boys are integrated be a force to be reckoned with...thats my hope anyway mate..

11 Aug 2018 11:53:43
This is why we all love the game. 22 players, 1 ref, and about 10,000,000 would be managers blabbing on as to why we were good or bad today. Every club has a Degsy and DFS. They do wear you down at times but we would not be without them really. I really feel positive this season and believe we could challenge Spurs and Arsenal in that top 6.

11 Aug 2018 12:02:19
Cautious optimism is sensible, we know we are not amongst the favourites to win the league so an improvement on last seasons final position should be viewed as a successful, transitional campaign. The last DoF set us back quite a bit but it seems that Brands knows what he is doing and has delivered for both the manager and us fans. It really is an exciting time, especially after the false dawns we have had to endure of late.
I'm not entirely convinced by Silva but he has my total support, hopefully he will show, over the 38 league games, that the board made the right appointment, maybe even a decent cup run thrown in the mix.
Degsy, I think you should change your stance of judging after 5 or 6 games, if that is the case. It may take that before we even see some of the signings in the first team and it certainly won't give us much of an indication as to where we will finish come May, it will take a bit of time for the squad to implement what Silva wants and expects from them. Practice makes perfect, as they say. All of the points you moaned about have, as you mentioned, been addressed so just chill and hop on for the ride!

11 Aug 2018 13:08:07
agree with bluejohn degsy your posts are so sad you go on as if you are running the club and if you are the only one that new jags baines and williams are getting old just pathetic every other everton fan knows this but you make a point of posting it over and over just so you can feel good about yourself and say you predicted this who do you think you are saying the team has bin addressed the way you wanted its laughable im going to predict two things that after six or seven games if we have not started well you will be on here boasting that only you seen this and the other is if we start well you will not post on here for a while which you have done in the past.

11 Aug 2018 13:44:44
Rather rude and personal some of you, absolutely no need for it. Opinions on these pages should be respected, disagree by all means but please save your ignominious comments for elsewhere.