Everton Banter Archive February 11 2013

11 Feb 2013 21:58:15
Would you take £22mill and lukaku for felliani?anyone {Ed025's Note - yes..

11 Feb 2013 21:49:50
Okay a bad weekend but not to worry get yourself across to the Reds banter page it will cheer you all up!

Nostrawigus

11 Feb 2013 21:23:59
if I was david moyes I would seriously think about playing duffy over heitinga as heitinga is playing awful {Ed025's Note - me too..

I bet he will.
Degsypulford

11 Feb 2013 22:32:49
If I was duffy i'd ask could I go out on loan, because with distin injured and heitinga looking like he can't be bothered and he still couldn't get a game, when is he ever going to get a chance.
Ste c

Agree Ste. I've only ever seen him play in pre season. he must be pretty hacked off at not getting a look in especially as Johnny is struggling.
hope its not too long before we have the likes of duffy, barclay, green & stones getting a game.
wish moyes would be a bit braver from time to time with his selections.

stewillow

11 Feb 2013 20:17:56
Just a thought so don't shoot me down. spurs and liverpool are still in the europa league so hopefully it will take abit of fitness out of them. we could use it to our advantage for race for 5th spot. I no liverpool are behind us but if they win tonight I hate to say it but they will want 5th aswel.

I don't think anyone wants fifth place apart from us. We all know what will happen next season if we do get it with the wafer thin squad we have. It's either 4th or nothing, for me {Ed025's Note - fifth would get us european football, and sixth!...the higher finish the better..

But do we really want Europa League Ed? We have a paper thin squad as it is, who are knackered now, imagine 2/3 games a wk Thursdays and Sundays {Ed025's Note - how can we refuse it mate?...its a step forward, and more reason to add to the squad with the increased revenue..

Europa league wil not be so bad for everton next year should start to see the emergence of some top quality youngsters coming through we will not lone anyone out so these kids wil get a
Chance stones bid well green lundstrum
Hope Barclay garbut all will be good enough to make impacts plus it will give
Reason for some memorable away trps

11 Feb 2013 19:58:43
Fed up with Moysey moaning about lack of depth when he continually bypasses Duffy, Oviedo, Velios and the new lad Stones in favour of Heitinga, Neville and Naysmith. Give them a chance and be brave.

What's that old chestnut? A bad workman always blames his tools? Well, that's Davey, if he won't utilise the players he has at his disposal then he can't really moan. Why give Hitzlsperger a year's contract if he isn't going to use him? Same applies to Oviedo. Had he signed Fer I have no doubt he would have been used sparingly too.

11 Feb 2013 18:50:13
Does any1 no wats happened 2 vellios he looked promising when he got on a few times big vic 2 me can't hack it he's to muscley in is legs think that's why he's always hurt brin jela bac would also like 2 c ovialdo av a game and bring Ross bac and play him just a few changes 2 freshen things us any1 agree bluejack

Not sure to agree or disagree. what does it say?
See ED I am a Fun gi {Ed025's Note - search me mate.. :(

12 Feb 2013 08:35:02
Translation. Does anyone know what's happened to vellios? He looked promising when he got on a few times. Big vic to me can't hack it, he's to muscley in is legs. I think that's why he's always hurt. bring jelavic back, would also like to see oviedo have a game, and bring Ross back and play him. just a few changes to freshen things up anyone agree? bluejack

11 Feb 2013 17:48:58
Same comment as a lot of other posts on here. The difference between the two sides yesterday was the two strikers. For parts of the game they bossed it. For parts of the game we bossed it. When we had decent spells of possession they reverted to defending with two rows of four. They showed a lot of respect for us. We were not hammered like teams in the early days of Moyes. I think we deserved a goal yesterday and missed Distin badly. Jonny H looks poor at the moment and I don't know why. Not blaming him. but he is out of sorts.
Degsypulford

11 Feb 2013 12:54:10
to lighten the mood has anyone seen eto'o saying the cameroon fa are trying to assasinate him? it's brilliant. he spoke about corruption and now he is convinced they are out to kill him. he eats away from the rest of his team to make sure he isn't poisoned and hires bodyguards. serious paranoia issues

We need to back players who are out of form heitingha haven a nitemare period, last year player of the year, let's get behind him might help him recapture that form,.

And that reply is in response to the OP how?

Keith EFC.

It's the Manager and coaching staff's responsibility to address issues in players form during training not in PL games although, it was unfortunate to lose Sylvan through illness during the warm-up. Jags carried both Phil and Johnny yesterday and as recent results have shown it is an impossible task and costly.
Both players are short of pace and for international and former international players surprisingly are lacking in positional sense and anticipation, which caused both goals.
Also, Tim Howard went to ground far too early in the one to one with RVP, especially as Van Persie telegraphed his intentions just as he entered the penalty area.
Add to that Big Vic is a 'shrinking violet' in big games and seems to be seeking divine guidance, after making a right mess of a reasonable chance on goal, by blessing himself!
However, in the circumstances I thought we played well in the second part of the first half and had we not conceded the injury time goal could well have got something from the game.
Fancy Smith

11 Feb 2013 11:46:59
Moyes is complaining about tiredness with the players I know we have a couple out injured at the moment. But when Hibbert and Coleman come back if the rest of the squad remain fit there is enough there to mix it up a bit and let's be honest we have no european games this season either tank God. What is the point in having Histleberger, Oviedo in the squad if were not going to use them there still getting paid full wages and if there in the squad surely Moyes thinks they can do a job. All i'm saying is there is enough there to make changes and give players a breather if he is worried about tiredness with some players mix it up a bit and let these players have a go to be honest we have nothing left to loose now change it a bit and try something new we have to go all guns blazing now if were going to grab 4th spot, personally I think Peanuts looks a little bit tired I would love to see him put Oviedo atleft back and try Baines in front of him I think it could work just mix it up a bit that's all i'm saying try new things you never know it might surprise us Stef the blue

All doom gloomers within 3 games Weil be in quarter finals of fa cup and back in the mix for champions league.

Agree mate. Enough there to change it around if he thinks players are looking tired. Mirallas and Gibson should be fresh they haven't played since December so we could always give the likes of Osman and Pienaar a rest and play Oviedo, Gibson, Fellaini and Mirallas in midfield

11 Feb 2013 23:52:51
how you can be confident is beyond me. were not playing well like ealier in the season werve been found out other teams now how to play us too many out of form jelovic, heitinga, we missed our chance in the window. to liven things up not going to make up 6 points on spurs and arsenal will come strong.

It puts things into perspective when the Arse are having one of their worst seasons ever in the prem era, and we one of the best and they're still above us. And they usually reserve their best form until the final third of the season. It shows the gulf in class, finances, squad depth etc etc. However, if we can take 6 points from the lane and emirates then we have a punchers chance I suppose, but it will be a tough ask. We must win our next 2 games to have any chance, the 2 biggest games of the season now. {Ed025's Note - i dont get the gulf in class bit?...they are one place, and 2 points above us!!!...hardly a massive gulf now, is it?..

11 Feb 2013 11:17:50
We lose against a man united side wiv qualitay strikers at old trafford, and people on ere want an up roar. chill out. ryanfromleic

11 Feb 2013 10:40:56
By next weekend we could be 7th. That is a gutting feeling. All our hard work is being unraveled due to the inadequacy to add to the squad in January. Tottenham, Liverpool and Arsenal all added to make sure they freshened the squad and kicked on for the fight for 4th, I think they did this as they were very much aware of the genuine threat we posed but now with us standing still (again) we will be forgotten pretty quickly and once again my gut feeling is we will finish 7th. Don't bother calling me negative or saying "look at us last year compared to now" or "that's the way it is they have money, we don't" We had at least 9 million if the bid for Leeroy Fer was true! I'm not interested in the past, I'm all for now and we have missed the boat here, we were favorites for 4th in most people's eyes in November/December but we have ruined that by not adding the necessary players to give us that final push from January to May. Absolutely gutted, but being the blue mug I am I will still go the match and scream my head off, knowing that the board who two of them are multi millionairs don't have ambition. We are not Norwich or Wigan (no disrespect), we are Everton settling, for mediocrity is not acceptable.
The only way I will accept this season is if we have a trophy at the end of it. 17 years for a club of our stature is also not acceptable, just like the record of David Moyes at Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea in the league (Played 48, Won 0, Drew 19, Lost 29)

ANNOYED BLUE

Paul

This is incorrect surely Moyes has won at Old Trafford Emirates Analfield or Stamford Bridge surely in his time?

He's defo won at the bridge, but not at the other three

Only with a penalty shoot out

Yes he won at Stamford Bridge mate in the FA Cup on penalties. In the league (as the post says) 48 times he has faced United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea away and we have not won once.

11 Feb 2013 09:29:36
Right I have had a gutful about reading all the crap about Moyes. You muppets who bag Moyes will cry when Everton are trying to get out of relegation instead of European places when he leaves. So we are 6th in the Table. Look at the teams above and below and look at the Money they throw around and we are lucky to have 2 bob and where are we 6th. That is right 6th. Still a chance for Europe still in the FA cup. So all you clowns who call yourselves Everton supporters get behind the team and Moyes. He got his tactics wrong tonight. Granted but we are 6th not 16th. Real supporters stick behind the team no matter what, all the rest of you guys who are unhappy go follow Manchester United because they win titles.

Aussie Toffee.

Lions led by Donkeys lad

11 Feb 2013 08:36:54
What rubbish it is that people are calling for moyes to go, serious if that's your view you don't no a thing about football and need something else for your sad pessimistic lives, who's going to replace him, Harry redknapp would be about the most realistic option and isn't a patch on David, it makes me embarrassed I support the same team sometimes, but that's the difference there are supporters and people who follow the team. As far as I'm concerned, what these followers do is like slagging off your mum.
Chop chop

11 Feb 2013 02:27:45
I'm shocked and dismayed with the amount of negativity posts calling for Moyes head, dear god, do people not have memories! Reality check, we lost 2-0 to the champions elect today, they are 12 points clear. our tactics didn't work today and Ferguson's did, in fact he was spot on with his tacynics, he nullified our best players, well he' s not one of the most successful managers of all time for nothing! it shows how far we've come that we' 're not happy losing away to United and also how much respect Ferguson has for our team that 3 days before a massive champions league tie he puts out his so called super stars against us!

Yes, the board has let us down, but this is nothing new to us blues, only normally we stick together, it binds us and gives us strength that we achieve and achieve against all odds! so get behind the team, it's only our 4th defeat this season! bring on Oldham, let's show them how the people's club d ok especially it!

IMWT NSNO COYB

Kurajan

ps. I would've made Heitinga walk home today!

11 Feb 2013 01:36:40
Out of all the negative and positive posts on here there are many salient points, clearly the people who post on here no a thing or two about football, not just everton. There's lots of comments about DM should go, and he is tactically unaware and the players are too soft, lazy, the there is the other side of the argument that DM has worked wonders with the money available to him, on paper our first 11 is as good as any on there day, no other manager could again so much with so little. etc. all valid depending upon your perspective but the fact of the matter is that the game over the last 20 years has changed massively since the birth of the EPL. it's a fact that the lure of champions league footy is more attractive in financial terms and kudos. you could argue that the two go hand in hand. Unfortunately the same usual suspects have benefited from CL footy for so long. reaping the rewards. thus making the financial gap larger and larger between the haves and have nots, and unless a wealthy benefactor creates that huge input of wealth (man city, Chelsea, reds to a certain extent) the it is more difficult to compete domestically. never mind Europe. Everton are a victim of this and the longer they go without a reasonable injection of cash the harder it will be to compete. All we can hope for is a shrewd a manager and board as possible. I believe we have one of those assets in DM. If we lose that then I fear we could be competing at the wrong end of the table. Jlaff {Ed025's Note - i agree with most of that jlaff..