Everton Banter Archive July 11 2012

 

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11 Jul 2012 23:17:57
According to ToffeeWeb, the Italian press are reporting that Inter Milan director Marco Branca will be in London this week to meet representatives from a few clubs including us and West Ham about the possible transfer of Luc Castaignos. Inter want to sell the player but if they loan him out they would prefer it to be to another Italian club I have to say I'd prefer him over Rodallega.

BlueNosePaul

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11 Jul 2012 22:42:28
I've come to the conclusion that not one of these stories is ever
True!! {Ed051's Note -

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11 Jul 2012 22:41:58
Ins -
Pienaar 4m
Donovan 4m
Pranjic free

Outs-
Anichebe-4m
Baxter - 1m

..................Howard.................

Neville..Jagielka..Heitinga..Baines

............Gibson...Fellaini...........

..Donovan.....Naismith...Pienaar

................Jelavic.................. {Ed051's Note -

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Love that team!!
Brilliant attacking team... Hope it happens.

Tree Blue

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11 Jul 2012 22:34:18
Just wondering if the rumour about Defoe is true, AVB was interested in Rodwell when he was at Chelsea so maybe it might be a swap with Pienaar and Defoe, I would take that, what do u think Ed?

Blue Monk {Ed025's Note - i can see the logic in your thinking monk, but defoe has stated that he wants to stay in the capital. for family reasons, i rate defoe, but at 30, i would want some cash as well...or peanuts..

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Sorry ed im confused doesnt OP say Defoe AND Peanuts?

ToffeeAL {Ed025's Note - he does al...i was confirming it, and offering a cash plus peanuts option, as i dont think defoe will move..sorry if it came across wrong..

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11 Jul 2012 22:10:20
If Rodallega goes to Fulham then I really don't care, he's just making the same mistake people like Nzogbia did. I honestly think we have a really good chance of finishing in the top 6 and possibly even winning one of the cups. If he chooses a few grand extra a week over being apart of one of the best Everton sides for years, then he was never ever meant to wear the Royal Blue.

Steve EFC

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Everton never bid for Nzogbia so how can he have made a mistake?

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We did the right thing not getting n'zogbia, he was garbage for villa last season

Bez the blue

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11 Jul 2012 22:10:17
For those wishing to know the identity of Ed051 I think he is the new Sunderland Ed, there are clues on the site.........

EFCwhitesocks {Ed051's Note - Way off mate, only started today but been on here for ages

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@Ed051 I know, the new sunderland Ed said a few days ago that he would start in a few days.....2+2=5

EFCwhitesocks {Ed025's Note - dont give up your daytime job whitey, way off mate..

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I'm the sunderland ed is mme mate

paddock toffee

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The new sunderland ED is paddock toffee, also known as ED046

Bobcat

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@Ed051 paddock blue? If not I give up, but not my day job, thats tomorrow 9.15 Huyton Jobbie ha

EFCwhitesocks

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11 Jul 2012 21:20:07
Question: How many Everton Rumours website Eds does it take to change a light bulb?
Answer: Why bother - whatever gets posted we'll all still be in the dark!
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - i like that sid..

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11 Jul 2012 21:13:20
Team vs Mancs
GK-Howard
RB-Hibbert
CB-Heitinga
CB-Distin
LB-Baines!!
RM-Naismith
CM-Osman
CM-Gibson
LM-Pienaar
CAM-Fellaini
ST-Jelavic

COYB
Joe EFC

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Why does everyone put Naismith on the right? Yes he's versatile, but that's not his position

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I'll agree with you when you tell me someone who is good in that position that is in our current squad? Coleman isnt up to the job at the moment,Ossie is much better in the centre so please enlighten me you nameless keyboard warrior?
Joe EFC

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11 Jul 2012 21:07:59
Welcome to the site Ed 51. Don't let Ed 25 take advantage of you and make you work the site when the games are on. Make sure you get a fair split son.

COYB

Toffee ace

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Ed25 deserves a break now and again, I'm a jinx according to my family and my nerves can't take it much more haha

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11 Jul 2012 20:48:36
StubHub deal 1.7 mill, I reckon that will fund Pienaar along with increased TV money and the sales of the younger players e.g. Silva. Hope that's true, and if there's still not enough what about the Nike deal? Heard we got around 3 million for that

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We surely must have enough for Pienaar now

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11 Jul 2012 20:36:33
Listening to moyes end season interviews and interviews more recentley! I detect an air optimism in his voice! his persona is of someone who excited about the forthcoming season, I believe he has surprise up his sleave! may be I,m a dreamer! but I think he will unveil a player! of quality! and I believe this player to be " Adam Johnson" just a gut feeling I,ve got!..............johnmacfromfazak {Ed025's Note - how good would that be?, i hope your gut is right j mac..

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Junior hoillet,......

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Adam Johnson is a rumour that was around ages ago and has only been mentioned since on the site the rumour has no substance whatsoever although Moyes may unveil a top signing I highly doubt it would be Johnson as much as I like the lad.

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Don't rate Adam Johnson he's A hit n miss player he doesn't link well with other players got talent but not a good brain

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Thought he'd signed a new contract anyways......

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Please bring Adam Johnson to Goodison DM. If we have got any extra dosh I'd personally luv to see him in an Everton shirt wether it be a loan or a permanent one (I doubt). I think he's a fantastic player. Without him and including Pienarr in our great team looks dangerous already but imagine also being able to include Adam Johnson in the mix up! I'd be delighted

Dog Puke Peter

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Moyes make no secret of the fact, he is an admirer of johnson! and has made enquiries in the past to bring him on loan! but now I believe that johnson would walk away from city if he has any ambitions of playing in the 2014 world cup! now!, with ozzy geting on in years and coleman not quite cutting it, there is a vacancy on the right side of the pitch for a player of johnsons calibre! I belive the cost would around 12 million Now concidering he is 22-23yrs he would still have resaleble value if thing did,nt work out!. All these factors point to a possible signing for everton!..that enough substance for me!.....johnmacfromfazak,

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Hey, dont rate adam johnson poster, are you for real

Degsybluenose {Ed051's Note - Good player we could and have done worse

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One factor doesn't point towards Everton, and that's the price.

Steve EFC {Ed051's Note - Price would be a sticking point

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Too expensive, both transfer fee and wages. Don't really rate him that highly either he is also supposedly a bit of drinker and doesn't take training too seriously, i couldn't see moyes having that look at Drenthe last season, Moyes is so strict he cut our nose off when with him we all know the RS were there for the taking

Mike aintree

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11 Jul 2012 20:26:50
Well ed there we have it, the biggest mystery of of the summer so far!!
Is it - will we finally get investment?
Is it -will we sign peanuts,
is it -will we sell Baines!
No it's no of these ,it's what is ed51s true identity!

Welcome ed51 from all the toffee posters!

Kurajan

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He posted on here two days ago with his name, he is a well known poster

Degsybluenose {Ed051's Note - I am always on here but degsybluenose is no closer

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11 Jul 2012 20:24:59
Ed025 has to be the worst ed ever! {Ed025's Note - cheers mate..

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Typical hate mail, Ed025 - didn't leave his/her name. Could have been irony, I suppose, but that would have led to accusations of being a closet West Ham fan (you know - they're known as the irons as well as the hammers). Whoosh - I bet that went over his/her head.
Cowpat Sid

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No your wrong ed025 has the best sense of humour out of all the eds,.........and he needs it with us lot {Ed025's Note - i do mate...lol

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You can't come on are site and say that....that's blasphemy ,.......

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The 1 true ed for me. BSM {Ed025's Note - cheers BSM..

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Ed025 might have the best sense of humour, but would you give him your last Rolo?
Concerned Citizen

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You wrote that yourself didn't you ed,....knowing we'd all big you up,....got ya well sussed m8 {Ed025's Note - damn!...rumbled..

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Learner drivers,.....

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So it was irony, Ed025? Self deprecating humour - you can't beat it :-)
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - i know mate..

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Ed25 is well funny and I always looked to see his remarks, and he has done a great job running this everton page

From ed051

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I agree with the OP. Ed is the worst ever. As my predictions state, he's an insider from TalkSport employed to corrupt our minds. The only means of action is a witch hunt. Sharpening my pitchfork as we speak Ed. You first, Ian Abrahams next!

MikeyBlueNose. {Ed025's Note - most people on this site dont need corrupting mikey...the horse has already bolted!!

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Who posted this? was it mrs ed025? {Ed025's Note - probably...lol..

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Is the horse that bolted called Mister Ed? If so, that explains the long face...groan.
Concerned Citizen

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11 Jul 2012 19:57:49
Ed051,..tristen here....are you big c.....just asking coz I ve not seen a post from him for a while,...or do you have to keep your identity secret, {Ed025's Note - sorry to butt in tris..but he cant tell you that mate..

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K ed ,no probs was thinking big c was above average intelligence,and has gone missing and I put two and two together ,....big c ...were are you

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11 Jul 2012 19:42:32
According to TRANSFER TALK Leighton Baines is NOT FOR SALE.....
Which means Everton cannot get the asking price they want..... {Ed051's Note -everton never said he was for sale

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Every player has a price...I just hope no club offers the price that would tempt David Moyes. We don't sell cheap - Lescott being a great example - and I trust DM and BK to get the best deal if and when push comes to shove. Until then it's all speculation - but that's the point of a rumours forum :-)
Cowpat Sid

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11 Jul 2012 19:31:58
Everton are still in the hunt for Rodallega although it is likely he is going to Fulham,come on Bill we've let quite a few players go now already this summer we need to beef up the squad with free agents...just offer some more wages if thats whats required would love to see a front line of Jelavic,Naismith and Rodallega.

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11 Jul 2012 19:30:05
Shame about Rodallega...anyways enjoy yourself at at another small club wasting away your career in a mid table side instead of helping the blues get into europe Im sure Moyes has a back up plan.
COYB

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Maybe it might of been a smoke screen for someone better were going in for,(I wish)

Westy

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11 Jul 2012 19:23:18
You evertonians are bonkers haha £20m for Baines get your head out of the clouds!! Liverpool til i die aka Peter Mitchel back door lad from tesco ;-) {Ed051's Note - think it's best you concentrate on your own team, and we are bonkers as he is worth more, look at the price paid for two or three of your players and baines is far more superior. Enough said

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Back door lad ,.....you mean back door merchant ,.......t

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Does he know Tristan? BlueTone {Ed025's Note - if he drinks in the lisbon, or pink he will tone..

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Do you reckon if we put him up for sale at £35m, we'll get an offer from you? Or maybe evn keep it at £20m? I mean you don't buy cheap. If you see someone who can ever so slightly kick a ball then you go in with a £20m, if not £35m, bid.

Do these names ring a bell:
Carroll? (£35m)
Aquilani? (£17m)
Downing? (£20m)
Henderson? (£17m)
Adam? (£7m)

Keith EFC.

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And the best player there is the cheapest one point proved now get back to your own team and try and improve on 9th place this season

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Henderson is my favourite...so bad.
Joe EFC {Ed02..5's Note - BIG FOOT IS MINE...andy carroll

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Imagine if Moyes had that amount of money! :)

Tree Blue

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You like it the back door peter or something?

Gary

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Get a life pete , concentrate on combing your lovely hair.

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You like it up the back door. p.s lovely hair by the way. xxx {Ed051's Note -

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Take no notice of this post guys pure bulls**t posted by a scouser whos supports the mancs enough said! COYB!

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11 Jul 2012 19:23:05
Saw in the Echo today that new Blackburn forward Nuno Gomes claimed that he rejected us to go there! Everton apparently were mystified with this claim. Were we ever actually interested in him or is this his pathetic way of trying to make himself sound like he had a lot of offers?
Joe EFC {Ed051's Note - the latter I think joe

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So a player in his 30's turned down a premier league side for a championship side I think that says more about his motives i.e money, than the stature of the two clubs involved if it was footballing reason then hes just a moron

ToffeeAL

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11 Jul 2012 19:20:47
why is everyone moaning about these white cuffs on the shirt. could understand if they where red. blue and white is our colours its different from just blue

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Because they make the shirt look cheap and nasty, as does the thick white v-neck. Too much white and it doesn't even look light the right shade of blue.

Bluewal.

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Thought it wasnt out til tomorrow?
Joe EFC

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Yes but it was 'accidently' revealed again

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11 Jul 2012 19:34:10
The Colombian and his representatives had talks with Everton and manager David Moyes was keen to sign him.

However, although he is a free transfer, his high wage demands were not deemed good enough value by the Goodison club and they have now decided to look elsewhere.

Fulham have shown strong interest as have Stoke, Aston Villa and Southampton but he will also have to temper his demands to conclude a move to Craven Cottage.

Manager Martin Jol wants another three or four players and remains in the hunt for Andy Carroll of Liverpool although West Ham are ready to state their case to the player also.
Joe EFC

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11 Jul 2012 18:59:46
Hied any goings on that your aware of {Ed025's Note - only the usual suspects mate..

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Hopefully we will add some more additions soon, naismith was a great start ed.

Bez the blue {Ed051's Note - Yes he is a great player to start with

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Ie.Rodallega,Hoilett,Pienaar,Pranjic?

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Are we interested in Thomas Sivok Ed?

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11 Jul 2012 18:43:44
Just had a thought.....

How can you get the new away kit signed?

Being black and all....

The only thing I can think of is on the number/name

Gods Doctor

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Gold pen mate

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Yeah coz everyone carries gold pens around

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Well, if Gods Doctor was going to get it signed at, say, an event at Everton Two, I'm pretty sure he will buy a gold pen if he wants his away shirt signed

Dave

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No everyone doesn't carry around gold pens but if your looking to get a black shirt signed then a little planning would have you buying that gold pen before hand... Simples

Alexander the meerkat (toffeeAL)

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I prefer toffeeAl mate than Alexander Thr meerkat

dave

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11 Jul 2012 18:16:44
ed025, i mite b behinf here but who is ed051?

TimmyEFC {Ed025's Note - he is a new everton ed tim..

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Wel in that case WELCOME ed051, another follower of the best team in the land!!

TimmyEFC {Ed025's Note - i second that timmy..

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Is ed 024 still about ed?

Bez the blue {Ed025's Note - yes mate...but i dont think he gets a lot of time to edit..

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Ed051 here, I am a regular poster on here and love the site, I work all mad hrs so I thought it might be useful to help the other eds out and update the site at stupid o'clock. I might get it wrong sometimes so have patience with me, and I do it from iPhone/ipad {Ed025's Note - nice one mate..im sure you will be a great asset to the site..welcome aboard..

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Regular poster hmmm...big c me thinks {Ed025's Note - speculation..is the work of the devil..

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11 Jul 2012 17:35:47
I heard a rumor three weeks that the brother of man city owner was seen being wined and dined at goodison. are the Arabs moving in at goodison? anyone else heard anythink on this? {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

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11 Jul 2012 17:31:11
TBH pienarr has got 2-3 years left in him at this quality.
so why don't we loan him for another year and concentrate are funds on someone like Donavan.

toffee haz {Ed025's Note - that would do me haz..

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But Donovan is the same age as pienaar isn't he ? {Ed025's Note - yes..

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But we then would be able to get both of them in, Donovan needs a full 2-3 years with us so yeh.

toffee haz

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11 Jul 2012 17:15:08
More a question. As
rangers dont exist anymore do
what happens to the rest of the
Jelavic money we owe them? Do we
pay the new club? Do we even have
two pay it? {Ed025's Note - i dont know mate..

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I think EFC should be totally ethical and pay what it owes for Jelavic - just don't know who to :-) We've already had a result (FIFA international clearance pending) getting Naismith for free, so to avoid paying the balance of the Jelavic fee seems a bit off to me. If there was a way that the money could go to all those suppliers who lost out when old Rangers went bust, that'd seem better to me - but that's not how it seems to work.
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - i think the liquidators will try to claw any money owing, to pay creditors....thats the law..

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Not our problem

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No doubt, Ed025...I just want Everton to always act with a bit of class and deal in a fair and proper manner. We're a proper football club and - whatever our success on the field or our spending power off the field - we are a great club with a proud & untainted history.
Cowpat Sid {Ed025's Note - i agree sid...

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Any payments owed by Everton will have to be payed to the administrators of the former Rangers FC liquidators who will then pay the former Rangers FC creditors, it wont be an act of charity, just law.

EFCwhitesocks

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11 Jul 2012 16:57:19
If u go on everton tv u can see Naismith with new kit on another mistake by club were all ment see thurs ste45 {Ed051's Note - Well I don't mind ste45

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It's horrible that kit hate the white armbands.

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Thats the training kit

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It's the kit Naismith got on u will see in morning then ste45

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"Thats the training kit"

Are you an idiot?

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11 Jul 2012 16:31:54
my honest opinion..glad rod going to fulham and dont want hoilett either hes too greedy just want pieman in and try our luck with donovan even for another loan if not then just make do with osman or coleman line up with a 442 next season finally

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Hoilett has great potential and would be a real asset to the club though

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I didn't want Rod either as he is gash and nowhere near good enough for Everton.

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Rod is not gash would have been a quality squad player is the deal definetly off Ed or is that just the mirror speaking s**te?
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - he has been to fulham today joe, and said he was impressed with the club...its not definite mate..but it dont look good..

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11 Jul 2012 15:11:48
We need to get Pienaar and Pranjic snapped up asap. Then once theyve signed sort out Anichebe and Mucha. Possibly sign a young left back as a back up for Leighton Baines (long term thinking). Also flog Yobo to Fenerbahce.. And once again try and get a couple more signings to strengthen the squad.

Ste1878 {Ed025's Note - im all for that ste..

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Forget Pranjic he's to old and not that good we need younger players, and there are plenty out there. {Ed025's Note - hmmm..

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Ed do you think moyes has looked at the young lad max clayton from crewe, coupla lads i know from crewe are saying he will be a boss player. Terry blue {Ed025's Note - a lot of clubs fancy him terry...im sure we have had a look, but the present is the main priority mate, we need one or two more signings, to move forward IMO..

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Cheers ed,i would be made up with pienaar and pranjic,also i reckon moyes will sign a couple players we not been linked with and surprise us. Terry blue

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Pranjic honestly? Your easily pleased Terry Blue as i think he would be a waste of wages. Mike {Ed025's Note - i like the guy mike..

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Why Ed just because he said nice things about the club? Mike {Ed025's Note - no mate..because he is a quality footballer, who is on a free..

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So mike if we do sign Pranjic and he helps get us in europe will you still say he will be a waste of wages. Terry blue {Ed051's Note - In my opinion he will be a very good player and member of our team

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Hmmm..20 goals in 30 games in 2009 and on a free but still a waste of wages? Quality player IMO.
Joe EFC {Ed025's Note - im with you joe..

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11 Jul 2012 15:26:42
Ed how confident are you Naismith will get international clearance and do your scottish eds know anything on it ? {Ed025's Note - there is no problem mate..as far as im concerned..

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10 Jul 2012 12:21:38
The following quote should be kept in mind when you start hearing nonsense about Naisy's contract situation :

PFA Scotland solicitor Margaret Gribbon of Bridge Litigation has written to all English Premier League and Championship clubs reassuring them.

Ms Gribbon stated: “I have been furnished with a copy of Mr Green’s letter sent to English clubs in their top two divisions and consider that it amounts to an attempt to deliberately misrepresent my clients’ position. I have therefore today sent a detailed letter to the clubs setting out the facts and repeating our very firm legal view that Mr Green’s allegations of breach of contract are entirely without legal merit.

"My clients are free agents and I am pleased to note that several Premier League clubs have already made applications to the SFA for International Transfer Certificates indicating that they attach little weight to Mr Green’s assertion that Sevco is entitled to seek damages for breach of contract.

“Furthermore it should also be noted that the SFA has confirmed that in the event of there being a dispute over registration the matter will be referred to FIFA.”

What all this means is Rangers don't exist anymore in legal terms, and the former Rangers players have no contract with the new club/company which is Sevco.
This means that TUPE Legislation comes into effect and makes Greens case look ridiculous.
You can't have a contract with something that doesn't exist.
Nor can you have a contract with a new company (Sevco) if you haven't signed one.

EFCwhitesocks IMIT IMWT COYB {Ed025's Note - thanks for the info mate..

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This is a bit worrying...

"Charles Green's £5.5million purchase of Rangers' assets included a £2.75m payment to purchase the contracts and registrations of the club's players, according to a report by the club's administrators."

...from an article on sportinglife website. {Ed025's Note - read the article by whitesocks...on banter...he has got it nailed..

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WRONG, Green bought Rangers, the company, which was then liquidated, which means its dead, gone, is no more. There is no club called Rangers anymore its now called Sevco.You can't buy the individual contracts of a companies employees, just the company. The employee then decides wether to transfer his contract to the new company or not. If Naismith or any other player who played for the now non existent Rangers FC decides he does not want to transfer to the new company (Sevco) he then becomes a free agent.
Imagine this, you work for Fords and Fords get taken over by Nissan, you can now work for Nissan under your current contract (guaranteed by TUPE for 12 months) or sign on the dole, or go work for someone else,its your coice.
I hope this eases a few minds.

EFCwhitesocks

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The SFA only rejeceted the registration request to protect themselves from any possible problems I'm sure they expect FIFA to give the green light for the players to move does kind of reek of SFA passing the responsibility though!

ToffeeAL

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11 Jul 2012 14:40:25
Just noticed that neither Gueye's nor Barkley's number are currently available for shirt printing... Any thoughts Ed? BlueTone {Ed025's Note - i would not look too much into that tone..

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There probally going on loan

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11 Jul 2012 13:13:06
The replies to my last post got me reminiscing.
First @ Ed 025, yeah she was, she had knitted me a blue and white cardie before I was born, had taught me to sing "The Royal Blue Mersey" (with passion and venom included) by the age of 3, financed many an away game for me in the eighties and got drunk as a skunk when she won a few Bob on Rideout 1-0. Happy days!
Second @ Steftheblue I was in my late teens/early twenties during Kendalls first spell, what a great, great team! But some of my favourite memories are :- Duncan McKenzie dancing past about a hundred Stoke defenders, the same man getting the biggest cheers of the day when scoring FOR Chelsea at the Street End, Big Bob scoring his 30th against Chelsea at the Street End, Eamonn O'Keefe scoring an extra time winner in the Fa Cup v The Saints at the Street End,
Geoff Nulty getting carried off injured, George Wood scoring four in Harrys testimonial and finally, being able to tell this joke in school on Monday 30th of October 1978 -
"This fella stopped his car and asked me 'Where's Kings Drive?' so I said 'Over Clemence's left shoulder.....'

Those were the days......

EFCwhitesocks COYBB {Ed051's Note - They were great days

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Good stuff Whitesocks and i hope the young Evertonians of today will have some great memories themselves to tell in 20 odd years come on you blues.Stef the blue

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11 Jul 2012 12:30:41
personally i would of gave rodallega a chance but not now. how on earth can u choose a club that will probably struggle next season over a club that will be pushing for Europe. strange

Andy

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I would imagine Fulham would play him every week and he would be no more than Jelavic's understudy if he came to us. He probably realises that and isnt prepared to paly a bit part role. A shame as he looks a pretty decent player.

Alastair

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Stop whinging,he hasnt signed for anyone yet,we havnt got a clue what is going on.Rob Walker {Ed025's Note - thats right rob..

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Im not whinging rob he IS going to fulham ok

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As well as playing every week, he may also fancy living in London, he has spent his entire time in England in the north west may feel like a change. But yeah we don't know, he hasn't signed for anyone
Svenny

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I think we have had a lucky escape

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"I think we have had a lucky escape" Well you're an person then aren't you?"

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11 Jul 2012 11:24:10
I take it that all the posters who moan about BKs chairmanship are either too young or can't remember these two words - Peter and Johnson. Kenwright used all of his money and mortgaged his home to rid us of this parasite and for this BK should deserve our thanks.
Johnsons vision for Everton was to have us relegated and use the parachute payment to part finance a new stadium, great idea eh?
So whats BKs major downfall? Answer - he's not a billionaire. Well neither am I, if I was or if Bill was we would make City look like paupers and you all know thats true. I for one am happy with Bills tenure, given the circumstances, but believe the rest of the board could perhaps do a bit more. I believe BK will sell, but only to someone who has EFCs best interests at heart and who has integrity, and as you all know finding someone in the business and finance industries that has integrity is not an easy task. Google - recession, banksters, corporate fraud, insider trading, ppi, Ribor.......etc
As my nan used to say, be very careful what you wish for because it might come true. I would rather be in the top flight with Bill than in the Championship with the Venkys et al.

Ah well..rant over from a realist

EFCwhitesocks COYB {Ed025's Note - your nan was a very wise woman whitey..

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Spot on whitey, some people are far to keen on getting BK out just for the sake of it! Without any thought of who or what! Takes his place. Life is never that simple as BK out & an Ambramavich like figure in who's willing to blow a billion! There are far more bad owners than good! Lee Efc

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Like a Leighton Baines pen. Spot on mate.

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Correct sir! Too many ill informed fans jumping on the 'sell up soon' bandwagon. Birmingham did, take a look what happened to them. Their squad literally disintegrated in the space of 3 months of relegation. Will be lucky to escape the quicksand of the championship this or maybe even next season. For the record, hope they do make it back up, big club and Lee Clark is a great bloke.

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On the nail Whitey, spot on mate

Degsybluenose

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Fully agree. The stumbling block for investment or the sale of the club is surely a combination of the need for a new stadium, coupled with rich board members who could'nt give a damn about the club or indeed its supporters.
Apart from ridding us of agent Johnson, Bill also brought David Moyes to the club. As true Evertonians, we should be eternally grateful to Bill for this. Also, had Bill not been at the helm, I feel there is little doubt that Moyes would have walked a long time ago.

Shropshire Blue.

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I can remember the glory days of the eihgties, i can also remember the nightmare days under peter johnson dreading each game looking to see who we had last game of the season in case we needed the points to stay up when the fixture list came out. since bk took over those feelings of dread have gone i now look forward to each season with optimism and every game with the thought we could win this with a little luck. i really think we are on the verge of something special this year and that is thanks to the work bk and dm have put in year in year out, yes we all want more investment or to be sold but not at all costs. im just glad this post was put up twice so that all those calling for bk's head can read it twice and hopefully the sense and logic in it may start to sink in.but somehow dont think it will........grbefc

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Amen Whitey

Toffee ace

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It does annoy me that there is a section of fans who want Kenwright out. While I want investment in our club as much as the next fan, I don't think Kenwright should leave and he and the board are doing a fantastic job in keeping us a stable club. I'm happy with waiting until the right investment comes along rather than accept the first offer that comes along.

ToffeeTony {Ed051's Note - I was against kenwright but look at other clubs and the mess they are in, let's not forget he ain't the only one on the board. Think it's about time the others put there hands in the pockets

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11 Jul 2012 10:18:58
I take it that all the posters who moan about BKs chairmanship are either too young or can't remember these two words - Peter and Johnson. Kenwright used all of his money and mortgaged his home to rid us of this parasite and for this BK should deserve our thanks.
Johnsons vision for Everton was to have us relegated and use the parachute payment to part finance a new stadium, great idea eh?
So whats BKs major downfall? Answer - he's not a billionaire. Well neither am I, if I was or if Bill was we would make City look like paupers and you all know thats true. I for one am happy with Bills tenure, given the circumstances, but believe the rest of the board could perhaps do a bit more. I believe BK will sell, but only to someone who has EFCs best interests at heart and who has integrity, and as you all know finding someone in the business and finance industries that has integrity is not an easy task. Google - recession, banksters, corporate fraud, insider trading, ppi, Ribor.......etc
As my nan used to say, be very careful what you wish for because it might come true. I would rather be in the top flight with Bill than in the Championship with the Venkys et al.

Ah well..rant over from a realist

EFCwhitesocks COYB {Ed025's Note - your nan was a very wise lady whitey..

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I agree mate i said it many times befor about BK making sure the club ends up in the right hands.I am lucky to say i was around to see the success of the 80s albeit i was a kid but them memories will last forever.But i would like my son to see some success like i have and also every Evertonian that has not seen it but on the point of our board they are very wealthy people they have a responsibilty .Its now time they start shown the fans some ambition and start providing funds for Moyes as i said before Moyes and the fans do their job every season its now time for our so called board to do their job.Stef the blue .

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11 Jul 2012 10:53:31
no way rodallega and landon could fit in same team so good luck to going down fulham ...

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How do u come to that conclusion

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What are you on about lad?

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And there's no way that Hibbert and Pienaar can fit in the same team either :/

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11 Jul 2012 09:44:41
maybe not all is lost 4 rodallega? it only says
that 'fulham are close to and in pole position' for
him and besides,its the mirror...............

TimmyEFC

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Then he's ours Timmy

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11 Jul 2012 09:15:32
Another club takeover Nottingham Forrest what's going on kenwright pull your finger out lower the price get some investment and start backing are manager and fans who pay good money am sick of loan signings and free out of contract players who nobody wants always looking for the cheap option we should be more attractive to buy than these other clubs

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As much as it pains me to say I believe one of the big problems is the old lady that is Goodison park, Makes a prem club much more attractive to buy when you haven't got to shell out 300-400 million on a new stadium pretty much straight away, a billionaire might pay slightly over the odds for a club if he wants it bad enough but over the odds and a new stadium!

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For gods sake, another complaining fan....this guy that's bought Forest more than likely will not be rich enough to buy and run a club like Everton. Just be grateful that we've got a board that are making us a well run and stable club. Don't get annoyed that other clubs are accepting the first offer they get.

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11 Jul 2012 08:12:30
This Baines thing is very simple, IF he does go at all then for £16million the Mancs can have from his head to his shorts & we'll keep his legs ( the good bit! ) . Look we all know that if Lescott was worth 23 million then Bainseys worth more! DM & BK are not stupid they know that! Lee Efc

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11 Jul 2012 06:12:59
STOP - NOW - BAINES RUMOURS - PLEASE - CRACKING UP - NO MORE - LET IT GO

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Is right Degsy!
The mancs think we are pooing our pants over it but I for one am certain he will stay.
Lets draw a line under this and concentrate on whose coming in.
Next one to post a Baines leaving rumour sniffs r/s undies!

Blue Bones {Ed025's Note - that tickled me bones..

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I'll sniff anyone's undies,........tristen {Ed025's Note - now how did i know that was coming?....i think thats the end of this thread..

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Love it Tris, did you have a look at that cool cake on Facebook mate

Degsybluenose

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I looked degz. ,,,,but could not find degsycoolcool,,,,,,

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Type it in google mate

Degsybluenose

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I've found it degz...looks like a cheap tescos own one....tristen

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11 Jul 2012 05:47:47
One minute Rodallega has pretty much signed for us and the next minute he's going to fulham, point being papers only write what gets a reaction and what's getting a better reaction than the Baines RUMOUR... Everton have said that there's been no contact so let's just be optimistic and look forward to a great season because I'm sick of hearing about it as I'm sure many of us are. COYB!

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11 Jul 2012 04:48:59
Nottingham Forest are on the verge of being taken over by Kuwait according to Phil McNulty (BBC Footbal) on twitter. Looks like yet another example, as if there weren't loads already, of the flagrant bulls**t in Kenwright's claims that a) the price isn't issue, b) nobody is buying football clubs and c) he's the best salesman for Everton. This is rumour that should affect Evertonian's opinions. Of course there will be the usual village idiots who ignore the significance of such information, and continue, despite the already significant but still growing evidence, to support Bulls**t Billy on the grounds that he is an Everton supporter so he must be okay. Wake up people!

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4 clubs in the CHAMPIONSHIP have been bought this summer alone. And yet Bill says no-one is looking into buying football clubs these days.

I still cant believe people continually back Kenwright because he is a blue. Absolute joke. {Ed025's Note - playing devils advocate...there are also owners like venkys, or craig white, who have bought clubs, and ran them into the ground..

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I'm not sticking up for bill, but what league are they in??
and how much is there team worth, and plus it's not just bill who has the final say, they are other board members too, who are just happy taking there money and doing nothing.
so get of his back and support the team though think and thin, as i'm sure i will and and i all ways will, so lets be proud that we are on the verge of some thing great.. and prove that you don't need billions to make a success of things.

so the moral is just grow up and support the club,
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Carm down and read McNultys comments properly. Yes they have taken over Nots Forest but for a nominal fee and with NO guarantee of investment!! Is that what we want? No

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Wake up to what. About a year ago I posted on here telling everyone that he has no desire or intention to sell, the source being his son in law.
He owns the club, he doesn't have to sell because some fans want him to. He states he is trying to find investment but he isn't really. He loves being chairman of everton and who wouldn't. He has not run us into the ground, and unless we get some guy happy to chuck 20-40mill a summer down the drain to appease the fans those fans will not be happy
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It must be hard to love! the job when loads of people are screaming not nice things at you & telling you to do one! I would imagine the only reason he hasn't quit is he is worried who would take over after him, do you fancy Mr Earl?? Or someone. We all want the club sold & millions invested & by know means am I saying blue Bill is great coz he ain't , but better the devil you know eh! Because at least that one IS an Evertonian! Support the club & let's go into the season positive! Not like last year!! Lee Efc {Ed025's Note - nice post lee..

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I think you'll find the main issues are the price demanded and the state of the ground.

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Nice one Lee, i was about to get on my high horse then i read yours mirroring everything i was going to say minus my anger, well put mate.

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The main problem is the price they want. 150mil? Are you kidding me? If Kenwright was a true blue, you would think that he would be willing to sell his stake in the club for a nominal fee.

Instead, it is known, that he is looking for someone to give him some ridiculous return on his investment AND for him to keep his train set (Everton). Who would do that?

Stadium is a problem, but our board is the biggest problem.

People think it is nice and rosy under Kenwright, but he has STRIPPED THE CLUB OF EVERYTHING!! Our only valuable assets are players, and they are going as well, we cant carry on living like this because it is NOT SUSTAINABLE, if it weren't for the magic that Moyes does for this club, WE WOULD BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!

And don't lie, it is hard to argue against that last statement. But alas, everyone is happy for things to carry on the way they are because Kenwright is a blue right?

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No probs Mike, I'm sick of the whingers, we support EFC not Bk, get behind the team & give them at least till Xmas before anybody starts moaning! If we've bought nobody & are playing terribly & Moysie is unhappy THEN start your moaning! But let's not have a repeat of the debacle that defo IMO affected our start to the season last time, everybody get behind the team pleasey squeezy lol. Lee Efc

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"People think it is nice and rosy under Kenwright, but he has STRIPPED THE CLUB OF EVERYTHING! Our only valuable assets are players, and they are going as well, we cant carry on living like this because it is NOT SUSTAINABLE, if it weren't for the magic that Moyes does for this club, WE WOULD BE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP!

And don't lie, it is hard to argue against that last statement. But alas, everyone is happy for things to carry on the way they are because Kenwright is a blue right?"

Whoever posted this is an absolute idiot, or r/s.....I'm guessing you're like 10 or something and want us to be so rich that we can buy Messi? Well, mate, KENWRIGHT HAS NOT STRIPPED THE CLUB OF EVERYTHING you are clearly fustrated that we don't have much transfer funds, but, he and the board have STABILISED THE CLUB AND IT IS A SYSTEM THAT IS WORKING, WE ARE NOT ABOUT TO GO INTO ADMINISTRATION OR ANYTHING LIKE. We would still be in the prem either way as well.

Finally, i'm putting this all in caps so the message will sink into your thick brain:

I WANT INVESTMENT AS MUCH AS THE NEXT PERSON "MATE" BUT IF IT MEANS THAT WE DONT GO THE SAME WAY AS THE LIKES OF RANGERS AND BLACKBURN, I'M HAPPY TO WAIT UNTIL THE RIGHT INVESTMENT COMES ALONG. SO THE LAST PART OF YOUR IDIOTIC POST "everyone is happy for things to carry on the way they are because Kenwright is a blue right?" NO IT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR CLUB TO BE RUINED YOU MORONIC HELMET!!!!!!!!!! {Ed051's Note - well said

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11 Jul 2012 03:32:47
What I like about Baines is that he seems to be one of the few around now who still values the badge they wear and the supporters who pay their wages. At this time of year all kinds of players....good and not good enough....are being hawked around....and most, egged on by their agents, will follow the money even more than a desire for trophies (which is why Arteta will always remain a figure of huge respect in the Everton camp, taking a wage cut in a bid to play European football). So given a choice between Everton who have a reasonably good pitch at winning something next season, and a team like QPR who won't but have more money to offer a player, which team is going to be chosen by the majority of players up for grabs? I have yet to hear a player be honest and simply say..."yeah, short career, I went for the dollar!" At least you could respect the honesty. But to hear that they chose a club with less potential and better wages and after signing come out with the old chestnut, "I liked the ambition that the manager showed when we spoke, and I can see this is a club going places" is just hot air. Call me naive but I actually think Leighton Baines would think twice even if SAF came calling.....he might go but not without a tug of the heart, just as Arteta did not leave without valuing what he had experienced. As Joe Royle repeated recently, quoting Alan Ball, if you let Everton touch your heart..........no other club will be quite the same.
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11 Jul 2012 01:59:30
Can someone please explain to me how the rumours of Baines to Man Utd for 16 million are an insult? Its called business, as Man Utd are going to try and get him for the best price possible. They aren't going to look at him and say, well Everton value Baines at 25 million, lets pay them 25 million straight away. They are playing it smart and the only club I've seen that stupid are Liverpool, who paid Newcastle 35 million straight away, without trying to get a better price for themselves.
Sorry about this little rant, its just annoying when I see people saying that its a great insult.

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They have not offered anything, these are just rumours NOT business, business is not based on rumours.

Svenny

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Breeno you are wrong mate, it is an insult big time

Degsybluenose

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Agree with the OP. United should do what is best for them. If they value Baines at X amount, it would be stupid to pay nearly double that.

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A word about valuations - people need to get a grip. A player is worth whatever someone is willing to pay. Lescott went for £22-24m, but that was a fluke. If City hadn't come calling, we would not have been able to offload him for anywhere near that price. I would imagine if we had put him in the shop window without any interest from City, we would have been lucky to get about half that.

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Lesson is this: When an offer gets crazily high (like with Lescott), you normally have one chance to cash in. So you sell. The £12m reported offer for Baines is certainly not a 'crazy offer, though. So in this case, SAF either goes mad to land his man or he looks elsewhere.

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10 Jul 2012 23:57:06
Can we please put all this Baines stuff to bed ! Surely common sense would say that Pienaar would NOT be re-signing for Everton if he thought that as he signed,Baines would be sold ? ? I just cannot see it myself. I believe David Moyes has asked Baines & Fellaini to "give him" this season to see if we can make a serious challenge for Honours and if it doesn't work out then maybe they would be allowed to leave next season. We cannot keep selling our top players because we have proved that we can beat the so-called Top Four Teams and on our day we are a match for anyone (maybe not Barcelona)...and Moyes has achieved this with very little funding.As usual at this time "it's pick on Everton" as far as the Press are concerned.

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