Everton Banter Archive July 11 2013

 

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11 Jul 2013 23:10:13
First season in ages we haven't been linked with Donovan. about time we looked forward and not back. dnt get me wrong I rated him highly but we couldn't be linked with the same players year in year out

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I would take donnovan on a 1 year contract, if he would come.

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Mmm Donavan Barca kid? Donavan Barca kid? Know who I would rather have. Agree with poster we have moved on, and it's regenerated supporters. All good as far as I can see.

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11 Jul 2013 22:58:16
Still in need of a centre mid or two maybe a box to box (diame) and honda. Then try to get moses! Would be a great transfer window as they are experienced and good quality

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Forget Honda Oscar he's on his way to Milan.

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11 Jul 2013 22:29:21
I like what Martinez has done. I was a fan from day one, but I know a lot of fans (including some on here) were not too happy with his appointment. I think he's realised that and immediately his first thought of action was to try and win the fans over.

What's the best way to get fan's happy apart from results? New signing's of course! Sure, the Wigan lads are hardly world beaters, but they're fresh new talent that has been injected into a small squad, all of this within in 2 days! Needless to say, it sure made a few more fans happy.

And then there was Gerard Deulofeu. The boy wonder from Barcelona, labelled the new Messi. So what did Martinez do? He only went and signed him! Sure, it's only a loan and he is by no means the finished product; but look at the buzz and sense of excitement it's created among 95% of us supporters, it's fantastic!

If Martinez wasn't everyone's cup of tea before, after the last few days, I'm sure he's won many more over.

Here's to a optimistic season under a new era. COYB!

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I have to agree. Wasn't my choice but so far so good. Starting to believe the guy can make things happen for us. I'm liking the foreign flair we seem to have at the min. Something I think we've lacked in the past.

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11 Jul 2013 22:24:19
Ed, how many more players do you think we'll sign and any ideas who they could be? {Ed025's Note - at least 2...see previous posts for names..

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11 Jul 2013 22:20:53
Ed. Any news on susuki or kawasaki. I am fed up now with honda. {Ed025's Note - their agent..harley davidson has said it will be a triumph if we sign them mate..

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11 Jul 2013 22:12:09
Does anyone else think Oviedo might get a new lease if life now the shackles of Moyes negative tactics have gone? Thoughts please.

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Seems like someone Martinez will like, not sure why. May fit in well if we play wing backs

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I thought moyes was the messiah though? Now it seems it is open season on him. Seems that I was right all along.

Remember that, as I am always right.

Mike

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I hope so, can be deployed as a winger if needed and I spoke to a friend of mine who's a Kobenhaven fan and he reckons Oviedo could play on both flanks and even deployed at CDM, which he said shows how much he wants to play.

I'm personally intrigued and a fan of Oviedo from what I've seen, so I hope he gets some game time.

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I really hope so. I think he's got a great future ahead of him but needs games.

Sorry to say but if he ain't with us then he needs to get it somewhere else but I think he will be more Martinez's kind of player.

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Ha ha your a legend Mike always make me smile. well not always but still good laugh.

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Oviedos a bit of a headless chicken I think that's why he wasnt played much because most games we were only 1 up, he couldn never be a cdm either not strong enough

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11 Jul 2013 22:08:13
If we get Moses and a CM, maybe Diame and keep Fellaini and Baines I will be absolutely chuffed! Not that I'm not already

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11 Jul 2013 21:50:19
Really like martinez he's attackng minded and goes for pace and width.

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11 Jul 2013 21:35:14
Remember the old classic " I believe the children are our future bla bla bla" I't's time we started useing our major assets Barkley and Duffy can save us a lot off cash Moyes let the Everton youth gather to many splinters. For me Barkley is better than Honda already with more to come! Let's get behind Robbo he's done more buisness in 3 weeks than Moyes done in years it's nice to have Barca as our new feeder club {Ed025's Note - much as i like ross, honda is the finished article, lets hope he gets there too..

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11 Jul 2013 22:14:44
Better than Honda?. Don't make me laugh, he's nowhere near that standard yet. He's got the potential to be that good though.

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We are the feeder for Barca, they are the parent club. Plus, we're not. It's one deal.

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I'd rather be the feeder club to Barcelona than to manutd

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11 Jul 2013 21:18:44
We haven't signed anybody today. It's like being back with Moyes - same old, same old. Martinez out! {Ed025's Note - love it mate..

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11 Jul 2013 21:09:55
Is Honda really what we need, it's goals we are short of. He's not a Cahill, if the wig does leave we should be looking at more strikers Ross Barkley is the answer in midfield pure class! let's give him the chance he deserves! coyb

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You've obviously never seen Honda. He's full of goals in the right position.

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We need the finished article ie Honda. Barkley still has along way to go to get to Honda's level, but he has the potential to get there. Honda as our first choice attacking midfielder with Barkley on the bench as his back up.

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11 Jul 2013 20:58:32
just been on efc website & you can get all pre-season matches for £17. 99 for anyone who is interested!

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Have it book myself mate looking forward to that tournament in the states.

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11 Jul 2013 20:58:27
Just heard that we are in pole position to sign Sebastien Fernandez from malaga because he has had a fallout with malaga owners and will be availiable for around 3 million pounds!

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11 Jul 2013 20:46:08
Looks like Marty has identified our weak spots so far

Cover at cb or may even dislodge good but ageing distin

Wingers can be a bit weak - pienaar went a bit off the boil and is horrible at tackling and getting dispossessed

Striker was a must - look at the chances that vic and jel squandered - a Cool finisher would have been filling his boots the amount of chances we were making

Depth of squad was shallow

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11 Jul 2013 20:37:54
Just what we need some spanish flare!hope we can get the wins away at the so called anfield.

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11 Jul 2013 20:32:08
Lads, being doing a bit of checking up on Deulofeu and he looks super. I can see why Barcelona won't sell this guy. Very similar to Cristiano Ronaldo in the way he plays this might be daring but looks better at 19 than Ronaldo did at that age. Future superstar, Its a pity we only have him for a year. Pienaars place will be under serious threat while this guy is here. Very quick, lots of skill, takes on defenders and usually passes them with ease, score some great goals, has lots of assists. Masterstroke by Roberto.

Dero.

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You never know Dero, if all goes well, we might get him on another season-long loan next season!

Murf

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11 Jul 2013 20:29:34
Is anyone else thinking the club is going in the right direction? Players in that add quality to the squad and nobody asking to leave [officially]! Not a surprise that Davey has made no signings, he'll wait for the deadline day to disappoint the Manc, s

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11 Jul 2013 22:59:45
Utd have already signed a defender. south American guy. not sure if he is left or right back.

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11 Jul 2013 20:26:36
Ed, whatever happened with our interest in odidja ofoe? If we need a centre mid player, is he not a possible option anymore, despite being a moyes candidate {Ed025's Note - he was a moyes pick mate..

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11 Jul 2013 20:05:48
Wow over 24 hours without a signing, what's going on lads?

Dero.

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11 Jul 2013 19:20:24
Okay, so Sky Italia are supposedly saying that AC Milan have reached a contract agreement with Honda and that he will join in January.

I'm not fully sure in the whole pre-contract malarky, but is there a possibility we could bid and get him now Ed's? Cheers. {Ed025's Note - if we bid..yes..

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Cheers Ed's!

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CSKA wants a decent offer, they wouldn't let Milan have him for free they're not stupid

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11 Jul 2013 16:55:02
Where are these reports comin from Stef

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Italian media its on news now everton.

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11 Jul 2013 16:54:43
no signings today ed? I'd like to see some new faces in midfield (specially CM position) like Honda, or Fer, or Diame, Moses. And finally do you think RM will be playing Ross Barkley regularly or other youngsters? {Ed025's Note - i expect the youngsters to get a chance, its down to them to make sure they take it..

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11 Jul 2013 16:31:05
Just to confirm our new CB's name is Antolin Alcaraz, Not Antolin Alcatraz.

Not being a spelling nazi, just seen a few posting it.

Really hope Moses/Honda sign - 2 top top players.

PB {Ed025's Note - i prefer Alcatraz myself PB. :)

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Tony Alcatraz

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I don't care what his name is. He is crap and won't be shifting Jags or Distin from the first team. We need a better Centre back to replace Distin.

Moses is crap as well. I will give you Honda though as he is decent.

Mike {Ed025's Note - i dont know how much you have seen of them mike, but they are far from crap..

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As long as no opposition forwards escape from Alcatraz during a match, you can carry on spelling his name that way ;-)
Happy-Camper

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Just hope he takes no prisoners on the pitch next season :P

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If we went with a back 3 i'd be more than happy with Alcaraz there. he isn't crap. a good no-nonsense get the job done defender. but evey1 entitled to there own opinion. let's just wait til they play before we judge them. if alcaraz was worst defender wigan had then why didn't bobby sign either of the others before alcaraz. give him a chance for gods sake

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The OP has a point, that "t" changes the name from our new CB to a high security prison

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I sometimes wonder why some of the people on here who slate all the players we are linked to aren't in management themselves.

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I sometimes wonder why some of the people on here who think all all the players we are linked to are world class, aren't in management themselves.

Mike

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11 Jul 2013 22:09:30
You got a stutter Mike

Degsy

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11 Jul 2013 23:01:53
Think mike was responding to someone else degsy

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11 Jul 2013 10:28:19
Not a rumour but. Since Alcantara Thiago wants first team football and United are on the alert with this, it would be or both teams (everton and barca) if Barca loaned him to us for a year. Thiago would have constant first-team experience with an established club who will be competing with the likes of Arsenal, Tottenhamand Liverpool for a champions league place, and would go back to Barca with probably regular first team football if he impressed with us. And Barca would be in a better position to keep him. And Everton would have a world class player in their ranks for a year. An extremely Audacious bid and very unlikely, but possibly worth a shot. What do you think Ed? {Ed025's Note - i think they might be looking to sell mate.

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11 Jul 2013 15:47:43
Just a thought with this loan signing we have got for the season could this be a start of a good relationship with Barcelona if he does well they may see this as a good place for young players to develope with game time as it takes something special to break into there first team, and I don't mean just loans but young players may not stick around to get games but most would walk into other teams in prem I'm so excited this season although 4 new players have had something to do with that Christmas does come early anyone know what shirt no he has

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11 Jul 2013 16:42:54
I know one thing mate, we wouldn't have got him with Moyesee at the helm

Degsy

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Agree with that degs

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11 Jul 2013 15:05:26
This is from very good source infact that good I can't say who I am but Baines is desperate to go UTD to join Moyes even though he really loves Everton, he will not put in a transfer request just incase Utd do not bid enough money for Everton to let him go and would not like to risk upsetting the fans.
Would Everton fans hold it against him as he would be on prob £80 + and champions league
Im begining to dislike Moyes

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No one likes Moyes any more!

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This is totally untrue, the he does not wish to leave, and he cannot stand moyes, he will only go if pushed into it by the club.

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£80? I make more than that a week

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Cant see an issue here myself. If MU bid enough for us to accept then he will go if not he will stay. Either way its a win win. I would have thought a new contract would be on the cards anyway knowing how valuable LB is to use at present.

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11 Jul 2013 16:43:57
I don't care who u are to be honest mate, getting boring now

Degsy

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If he wants to go no one would or should be against him but he has a price tag its £20million. No dithering this time Davey pay up or shut up.

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11 Jul 2013 14:29:47
RM out!





As far as I know, we haven't signed a player for over 20 hours. :D

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I'm delighted with the new signings and that they are being done so early for a change.
It looks as though we will make another few signings before the start of season but I have a feeling we may be losing at least 1 big name & probably 2. The 2 names that jump out are Baines & Fellaini. Moyes was on Talksport yesterday saying that Utd are working hard behind the scenes to secure top class players & there's a lot of talk about Utd wanting him.
If both Baines & Fellaini leave it will ruin what has been a great transfer window so far for me as these are the players we should be building a team around.

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11 Jul 2013 14:56:41
do you think there is any truth in the report (NSNO web) that we have bid 9mill Euro for Jorginho?

JB USA

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Yes we have outbidded liverpool for jorginho another report is backing it up aswell

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Who is he, where does he play, sorry but this is one of all the names I'm unaware of?

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Far as I see the dark side bid £7.7m which is €9m so if true we have matched it not outbid them.

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11 Jul 2013 14:49:28
Hey ed. heard a rumour we may sign another player today. And that Man U wont. what do you reckon?

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11 Jul 2013 14:41:30
Looks like jorginho could be on his way to Everton according to reports

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11 Jul 2013 14:38:32
Is Martinez working on the 3-4-3 formation to suit life without Baines?

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Martínez' 3-4-3 suits Baines perfectly.

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11 Jul 2013 13:51:46
I am right in thinking we need to sign more home grown players?



8 players of our 25 man team has to spent 3 threes before their 21 birthday playing in England or wales. after loosing Neville and maybe the likes of Vic.

do Under 20's count

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We have a lot in the under 21's who qualify

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11 Jul 2013 13:24:57
We should make a move for Eric Dier. Just brought into the first team, sporting have financial trouble so could be quitecheap. Plus he's a young ball playing centre half, ideal for the Martinez system.
COYB

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11 Jul 2013 13:00:46
Well done on your shrewd signings RM. a fewmore in and keep baines and felli and we certainy have the makings of a top 4 challenge. any ideas on who else might be coming to the mighty blues.

A very happy evertonian

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Im telling you now baines and fellini are defo both going

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You forgot to put nowhere at the end of that sentence.

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Spot the kopite hoping and praying they go. LOL you weapon.

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11 Jul 2013 12:49:40
My grandads mates sons daughters cousins dog who is best mates with bainseys cat has said that Leighton baines is 100% leaving. And has said that we're signing ex Manchester United player hienze. From a very reliable sauce.

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Your right its fact baines is going to Utd he wants toi go himself

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11 Jul 2013 12:47:47
We are supposedly in advanced talks with Chelsea over the transfer of victor Moses I'm hearing the deal will be a loan with a view to a permanent transfer but this could change. Chelsea's valuation of Moses is around 8 million {Ed002's Note - The loan to buy deal is very attractive to Chelsea, but not so to the buying club if FFP is likely to be a concern.}

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Sorry if I am missing something obvious, but what would make it an unattractive deal for us, from a FFP point of view? {Ed002's Note - Because it would be £8M out of next seasons budget, not this.}

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11 Jul 2013 12:40:19
Apparently we are in advances talks with Victor Moses for a loan with option to buy deal

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11 Jul 2013 12:37:34
Im really disappointed with Martinez. Its after lunch and he hasn't signed anybody today lol

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Nice one! LOL

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Its a disgrace I say. I was expecting at least 2 today!

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11 Jul 2013 12:35:59
Can you actually post this one, Ed, I am scared of what pronunciations some of the fans will come with for the young lad. It's pronounced 'Doo-la-faye-oo'.

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Who gives a monkeys nut about how it's pronounced. But, it is actually De-loo-fay-oo.

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I pronounce it "Dee-oo-low-fee-oo". De (dee) u (oo or you) lo (low) fe (fee) u (oo or you)

The U could be pronounced as "you" or "oo" depending on how what part of the country you're from, for example "Cat" and not pronouncing the "t", or any other word with a "T" at the end. If you get what I'm saying.

How's everyone else pronounce it?

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Del Boy!

pity we ain't got Rodders no more :)



(well not that much of a pity!)

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11 Jul 2013 11:15:50
alright guys, well I got to hold my hands up and say I was one the first to slag Martinez comin thought he wouldn't bring any excitement players here but lookin at it he got 4 players in and maybe more, would moyes of done that, does anyone think he would of chanced it ( ed, do u think anymore will come in and if so who. ) dan

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11 Jul 2013 10:44:53
Malanda is a free agent and is 18 years old, we should be snapping this one up, we should be all over him like a tramp on chips!

Rich84 {Ed002's Note - Everton and Fulham have a sustained interest in Zulte Waregem's Malanda and Wolfsburg have been in contact with his club - but there is a complication as he is looking to force a move out of the country using Belgium's employment laws. This gives potential for claims to be made, a tribunal and a court case before anything could happen - and that may take months. This ugly and unpopular route of action has been going on since July 1 and legal advice to teh player has been to return to his club and request a transfer, hoping that the club lower their valuation.}

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Like Obi Mikel case Ed? {Ed002's Note - Not as such, that involved fraud. It is a point of Belgium employment law that provides an effective break point for 18 year olds but it is something the clubs have an issue with as they lose out everything they have put in to a player. It is very, very rarely invoked.}

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Its hardly invoked because of a agreement between belgium clubs. if some1 invokes the clause then no other belgium club will take them so it has to be another league in europe. i'd take him tho. he could be one of the rough diamonds bobby normally finds. and at 18 yr old he a big lad. I wouldn't step in the ring with him lol

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11 Jul 2013 10:38:53
just seen the new man city shirt on tv, also made by nike; how come they get something cool and retro and we get something that looks like its been designed by a 10-year-old for a blue peter competition?
a. n. gryman

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11 Jul 2013 10:26:17
Not really sure if it will have any bearing on the situation, but Santos have stopped their efforts to sign AC's Robinho, meaning that surely it gives us yet another chance to get Honda's signing.

It's up to BK and RM now to do what they want, but after Milan said they prefer a January move for Honda and now this, we clearly have one of the biggest chances we will ever get to sign a player like this from under the noses of one of Europe's best clubs - well, unless we get oil rich owners, that is.

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I don't know if you can fault BK or RM for Honda. They appear to be after him and from the sounds of it, we are by far the most aggressive team pursuing him. Unfortunately, it seems that Honda is waiting out for Milan, but they are really struggling generating the funds.

I still think he will end up at Milan, but would be amazing if he ended up at Goodison.

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The only reason I say "BK and RM" is because they are the only people who do deals for the club. I see your point, but I just meant it in a way for the club. Say if we had owners who are loved by everyone, I'd say the same about them to do the bizzo with Honda.

As far as I care, I have never, and never will, fault BK for the the way he runs this club. Admittedly, I'd like new owners who take the club further, but we are in safe hands (in a Pompey, Rangers, etc meaning) and it does me because we never know what to expect, which makes it exciting.

People who criticize BK need to look deeper into how a football club works instead of assuming a rich oil merchant from Dubai will have the same affection for the club as BK.

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We need not sell any1 pienaar was way above average last season

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11 Jul 2013 10:17:09
what everton should do seeing as fellaini will probably leave to somwhere like chelsea is ask for 15m + moses. then with that 15m sign honda for around 5 and spend 10m on a better left winger than pienaar who was average at best last season

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11 Jul 2013 10:46:14
I can't believe you have given up on Pienaar that easily, I'd hate to upset you

Degsy

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If Fellaini went we, d need another CM and Honda. Like a Diame, Fer, Capoue type. RW

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Our left hand side was the best in the league last season,

everyone in the game has come out and side so,

Baines was awesome and so was Pienaar, his movement in and around the box and ability to pull opposition players out of position made so much space for Baines to run into

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That may have been the case the season before but last season defences were all over baines and pienaar because of the hype - and although baines continued to be good pienaar didn't do that much drifted in and out of games and found it much harder to do his triangles

think he might fade out of the picture this year if he doesn't get moving again

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11 Jul 2013 10:03:55
Whats the views of the belgium kid Malanga. 18 yr old and a defensive midfielder. has freed himself from his contract and a tribunal will set fee. he was rated a 6 million but tribunal will be much less. he built like a brick outhouse and would be one for future or even now. surely worth a punt

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From a physical standpoint, this lad is built for this league, and is drawing comparisons to Fellaini in Belgium.

Definitetly worth a shout as I think we could do with another physical midfielder and of course can be eased in with the help of Mirallas and Fellaini.

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11 Jul 2013 08:38:44
Well its a new day and after 4 signings in 3 days who are we going to sign today? Don't go letting me down BK/RM. lol.

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OMG. not daily signing mate. Budget going to run out. Be careful RM.

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11 Jul 2013 08:25:15
Fer maybe on his way to Norwich, wonder if Martinez doesn't like the looks of him or is it because Fellaini is stayin? The reason we went after Fer last time is because moyes was preparing him self for a last min bid for Fellaini when it never came we pulled out the deal!

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Fer is Felli good replacement. If Felli stay (I love to see that) mean no need replacement.

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I don't believe we are after Leroy Fer and I don't think we have been since January.

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11 Jul 2013 07:52:04
Just read that the Manchester United are coming back In with a 14 million
bid for baines are they having a laugh he is probably the best left back in the world right now and if not he is right up there creating more scoring opportunities than any other player in the top leagues across Europe got s wicked free kick played more prem football than any other player last season so no worries over fitness or injuries need to be adding another 10 million at least plus also what part off martinez saying that he is not for sale do u not understand used to love u moyse but seriously lad jog the **** on there rant over cheers for reading


Andy the chef

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I know I'm going to get shot down for this but the main reason baines stats are so high is because everything we did went thru him if you watch him for England he hardly gets a touch if he did go which I don't want it wouldn't be the end of the world we would just play a different way last season when teams nullified our left side we had no plan b apart from lump it to screech so if the worst did happen an baines went we'd just move in with got Martinez now not one trick pony moyes

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11 Jul 2013 10:50:04
When I have watched Baines in an England shirt he is always in space looking for the ball, I am always screaming "give it to Baines for fs"

I think some of the England players are too sh**e to realise he is in space though.

We play it mostly through him because we know he is that good and is always looking for it and is in space.

Degsy

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I'm the same Degsy, he's constantly running down the left in acres of space and they always pass it to bloody Milner on the right! England for you

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11 Jul 2013 06:46:19
Is "Signing players" the new "Winning Trophies"?

Ste.

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It's a stepping stone! Jeez no pleasing some! Would you rather we kept on Hitz and Nev forever

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10 Jul 2013 23:25:55
Really pleased with Roberto's signings and as one was out of contract, and another came in on loan, we must have a decent few quid left in the pot. Roberto does seem to have a bit of clout and I can feel a bit of 'big' signing coming in. Any ideas Ed? (Wavertree Blue) {Ed025's Note - i can see a big one coming as well wavo, honda would be my choice..

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£5m hardly a big signing! {Ed025's Note - its not the cost that makes a signing, its the quality...would you say david villa was not a marquee signing for athletico at £4.4m..players like him and honda would grace most sides..

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I always thought Samba was a BIG signing for QPR.
Degsypulford

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No he wasnt a BIG player just a BIG letdown.

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10 Jul 2013 22:16:38
Ed, is this influx of money coming from our tv deal, or is it (dare I say) investment from the board? Think I remember you saying you think we have £15m, and do you think we'll have any money left over for January? {Ed025's Note - most of it is tv money, it depends on how much more is spent on whether we have a budget for january mate..

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11 Jul 2013 02:23:45
Ed is it the same person who is posting the negative posts? Obviously not a blue. We've always had one of the smallest squads in the prem and when a key player gets injured (which always happens) we always feel the full effect. But I think with a few more squad members is the way forward. Ok alcaraz and kone aren't the best but there still average players. Personally if we sign Honda and a 10 mill striker I think we will be looking at a good season and a BIGGER squad so were not relying on our first 11!

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11 Jul 2013 06:18:38
It looks like Ben, he seems to like question and exclamation marks

Degsy

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Martinez has raved about Kone being a great player and now at the top of his game so you may be surprised by him

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All good stuff but its a demonstration of how far we have slipped back when we get excited about squad fillers and a 21 yr old loanee - over the last few years we have consistently weakened the middle of the park - we now have no cover for this position and if Felliani goes no middle at all! Moyes constantly said to challenge we need a 20 goal a year striker we had flashes in kone prior to that only cottee and sharp have ever come close - Kone is decent but not that man - we've lost Neville - probably going to lose felli- lost Rodwell - yet not one back in - so for all this great business have we actually tackled the teams core 2 weaknesses?

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11 Jul 2013 01:21:31
the barca kid is great. but are u serious about the others guys? there's a reason why wigan got relagated. 3 very poor signings i'm my view. I no we can't compete with liverpool and the others but come on guys only 1 of our signings is going to improve our starting 11! and with baines going to utd and fellaini to arsenal (witch will happen eventually) I see us being in bad shape, specialy with a relagation manager in charge who will prolly spend the baines an fellaini money on di santo an some spanish guy. am I the only 1 who is worride were gunna be in a relagation battle for the next 3/4 years?

Cheers

BC

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11 Jul 2013 03:27:10
I think you should worry about your own team and go back to your own site. True Evertonians are more than pleased with proceedings and I for one am on cloud 9. Feeling very positive and excited for the coming season. I don't believe you are an Evertonian as you don't come over as one of the chosen.
In Blue Heaven.

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Your post makes sense other than the names mentioned. Try your luck on the lfc page mate, they're the other side on merseyside in big trouble next year. Steady decline isn't it mate

Melbourne CFC

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Spot the Kopite

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11 Jul 2013 06:15:41
BC concentrate more on English lessons in school mate and come back once the medication kicks in

Degsy

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11 Jul 2013 06:35:26
Kone scored more goals than of our players last year FACT!
Alcatraz will be back up, after the Wigan horror show Neville never played again Fact!
Mucha had one great game in 3yrs I know moyes never played him Fact.

So in actual Fact the players RM has bought in are actually younger than the likes of Nev Hitz and Mucha! Fact!

Eric D

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So you know the ex wigan players will never play well for everton. and we basically back to the he got wigan relegated crap. but as you know they a bad average players ill take your word for it. at least you positive for the coming season.

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Aren't you missing the point Eric - with all your facts! Jelli, s first season was better than kones - what's to say he won't have 2nd season syndrome - the players we've bought are squad players how is this going to help us compete against spurs and arsenal - 17m on a Paulino and 25 on benteke likely - we've not addressed our two weaknesses central midfield options and depth and a 20 goal a season striker!

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10 Jul 2013 23:54:07
With the signings we have made we have a really formidable squad next season. If we can get Honda as well, that would make us not only a tough team to beat, but also tough to keep up with. We have a bit more depth in the squad but more so than ever we look like we are going to have a really good selection on the subs bench. I'm behind Martinez all the way. This is a great start!

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Are u having a laugh? kone? couldn't stop relegation? the barca kid may turn out ok. alcarez? seriously? come on mate just because were signing players don't forget the likely departures aswell!

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Kone is 1 man. He had another 10 players with him so he obviously wasnt to blame for wigan going down

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Robles only played 8 times 1 in final winning fa cup he can't be consided a relagation player tom efc

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10 Jul 2013 23:41:03
4 Signings in 3 days. What a fantastic way for Martinez to lay down his own mark at the beginning of his reign. I feel stupidly happy at the moment. I'm grinning at strangers, helping old ladies reach things on high shelves in asda and tipping cabbies way too high. I can't wait to see who scores first next season and how many. It's looking like it could be anyone. and hopefully gone are the days of doggedly defending a one nil lead. COYB!

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I wouldn't get to excited about that mate I think we've spent 6m? on 4 signings? that should tell u everything!

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I agree - what ever happened to quality over quantity - qpr got 11! this is hughes and redknapp style of management loads of players lads of mediocre choice so it's never your fault as manager - where's the strategy the understanding of what it really is that will add to your squad and improve your team - this is just filler! it's still early so i'm not being critical but let's not kid ourselves and get excited about squad fillers - there's no skill in picking up relegated players no finesse no understanding and no knowledge of the market - maybe moyes was a more discerning buyer - give me quality over quantity any day {ed025's note - who,s to say they wont turn out to be quality?...im sure you will have said that about gibbo..

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