Everton Banter Archive May 12 2016

 

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12 May 2016 22:50:22
Anyway, I managed to blag a free ticket in some posh place, St George's hall and I'm sitting here all alone, even the DJ's late.

Got the place to myself, hope somebody else turns up soon.

Getting worried.

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13 May 2016 01:02:28
I catch the red eye from Atlanta to John Lennon International. Keep the beer cold.

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12 May 2016 22:39:48
I know it's early doors, but is there any indication on how quickly an appointment will be made?

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{Ed025's Note - no tron there will be a process followed and a short list drawn up, this will be followed by interviews so it wont be a quick fix mate..

12 May 2016 23:31:56
just posted about everton in talks with southamton its on rumours page rememeber when i posted about how reliable nsno are. happy days blues fans.

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12 May 2016 21:57:33
Sorry mate another question. Do u think de boer leaving ajax has anything to do with the everton job. Did he know something before us in your opinion.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont think so john, but it does open the way if we want him, and no compensation mate..

12 May 2016 21:53:18
De Boer all day poor back room staff in stam and bergkamp ha.

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12 May 2016 23:11:57
Think with those three at the helm we could attract some top talent, starting with ajax keeper cillessen.

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12 May 2016 21:28:01
Who would be your player of the season votes now please.

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{Ed025's Note - lukaku for me skylark, his goal record in such an average side is impressive mate. even though lately he has looked like a player who wants away..

12 May 2016 21:44:55
Have to be Lukaku. Barkley had a good season imo even though he got far too much stick. His goals and assists record for the season is impressive.

Can't see anyone else really in the running. Mori was probably the best of defenders. Chipped in with quite a few goals for a centre half. Earlier in the season Del boy had a good patch and Lennon at the second half of season. Only other person worth any sort of a mention is Barry imho.

Has to be Lukaku although I'd rather give it to Barkley seeing that there's more of a chance he'll be here next season and him being a blue.

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12 May 2016 21:45:41
Wouldn't seem right for us to give our player of the season to a player who wants to leave but can't think of anyone else.

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12 May 2016 22:35:20
Not sure what's more difficult, picking a player of the season from our poor dejected first team, or picking a young player of the season, as so many have showed such promise at various times. For player of the season, I might have picked Funes Mori for being so surprisingly solid, for a virtually unknown player and having a genuine passion for the club. Then he went and got that red card, which kind of put a dampener on things. Plus he's still a part of our shoddy defence, but I put this down to very poor coaching. All the obvious choices have been mentioned and could be argued either way by some, so it's Lennon for me, due to his great form and attitude, despite tailing off in the latter part of the season. The youngsters have done well at times, such as Pennington, Galloway and Browning, before his Injury, showing great promise in high pressure situations and with the right mentoring, Mo Besic could become a club stalwart (bit older, I know) . Who does anyone else reckon has been our best breakthrough youngster?

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{Ed025's Note - galloway as young player for me OHEFB..

13 May 2016 02:26:56
To me there is only one person worthy of player of the season. GEORGE SHAW.

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13 May 2016 03:13:20
Gareth Barry for me, thought he had a poor season last season and I said he was past it but he was great this season. Think Rom has had too many lazy not arsed games, plus as skylark said you can't give it to someone who said they wanna leave with 10 games to go.

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12 May 2016 20:07:53
I'm not going to sit here and say Martinez was a tactical genius or that he shouldn't have left the club but the way the fans have acted over the past 6 months has been a real embarrassment. As a life long Everton fan one of the greatest feelings in the world is being at Goodison with the 'classy' fans that we are getting behind the manager and squad no matter what the situation! But It's been sickening to see the fans who I consider the greatest in the world reacting in such ridiculous ways! So to read people's posts thanking him and wishing his family well is comical. As for the fans who have since the take over condemned Bill Kenwright are a joke you should be thanking the man who saved this club from being a complete embarrassment!

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{Ed025's Note - its hard to argue with that robbo..well said mate..

12 May 2016 20:42:04
Hi Ed and robbo1878 ditto mates, some of the so called fans and posters on here are talking out their rearends and are an absolute disgrace, Bill has been a fantastic chairman a true blue and a gentleman in every sense of the word, will be good to get back to some form of normality, ps Ronald Koeman for me, GuernseyBlue.

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12 May 2016 21:10:49
Gents agree totally about bk. i can't say a bad word about the man and disagree with any negatives I hear. Wrt to Roberto, I think some of tha antics have been terrible. BUT. you have to look at it from the fans perspective. He said he had no plan b, did mot work on defensive duties, set pieces, played players out of position unnecessarilly, played same formation regardless of opponents and their tactics, blamed players, games, competition committments, inconsistent behaviour towards players (lukaku and Baines) , dropped form players When they was no reason (mirrallas at season start and delufeo when uninjured, Naismith after Chelsea hatrick) , made bizarre substitutions (stones for besic against arsenal when 2-0 down) . in my opinion he had ample opportunities to turn things around and appease the fans and find a plan b and c, but he was so arrogant and bias towards a philosophy that never worked. quite frankly u can understand why some people behaved how they have. even if I disagree with it I understand. Ultimately I'm happy that he's gone. he would have received a Nice payoff and will undoubtedly be back in footy. but nil satis nisi optimum. he was not.

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12 May 2016 21:59:37
I have not given RM abuse or anything of the kind and didn't like when I seen people crossing the line in this regard.

I agree with every word Jcl1878 says. Pretty much 99% of the way I look at the negatives of RM reign. It hasn't been all bad there have been some positives.

When all is said and done I have nothing personal against RM and I do in fact wish him the best in the future. It didn't work out for him at Everton doesn't mean I don't want him to well somewhere else.

Hope he does well if he returns to Spain or wherever his next adventure might take him.

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12 May 2016 22:25:06
Same here NBTB. Was just a job too far for him. No one like to see people struggle and as everyone says, he is a nice man, so good luck in whatever job you take Bobby.

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12 May 2016 19:56:11
I can't tell you how happy I am RM has gone. I like the guy as a person but he has been completely found out on his management skills. I feel literally close to tears that this frustration has finally gone.

It felt like ground hog day after every game and how he could not recognise the defensive frailties of the squad and not work on them is beyond me.

Moving forward De Boar seems like a good bet on the next manager and I like the fact he is a bit of an angry head an is ultra demanding from his players. I don't know a huge amount on him but he has been successful at Ajax.

If it is him I hope he brings Bergkamp and Stamp as someone else suggested and maybe the Bergkamp addition could persuade Rom to hold out for one more year. I'm not a fan of Rom but With the right tactics and a more demanding manager we might get the best out of him.

Stamp would also be a welcome addition. Ajax have had the best defensive record in the Dutch league in all but one season under De Boar with just 21 goals conceded this season.

We will see anyway and it is Everton after all. Hopefully, though the talk of Moyes has gone away and we can start to look at some new blood at the club which is exactly what is needed.

COYB NSNO.

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12 May 2016 19:26:48
Heard it first here. I'm friends with a few pro footballers. Man city manager new Everton manager. Look at it this way! He said other week he's staying in prem, he lives in north west and no one in top half of league are wanting a new manager next year.

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12 May 2016 20:14:54
I know a few coaches at man city, as of last week at least (granted Bobby hadn't been sacked then) Everton and Pellegrini hadn't spoke.

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12 May 2016 19:04:11
Unsworth and Royle for the last game of the season. That will do me! ☺️
Come on Rhino!

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12 May 2016 19:18:51
lucky Norwich don't need to win because a different team will be on show. Joe Royles dogs of war, they are going to get a hammering, first time I've looked forward to match for months.

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12 May 2016 19:02:17
Rumour has it it's not Frank de Boer we are after it's Rupert de Bear.

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12 May 2016 18:18:23
United fan here, was just wondering how many Everton fans want de boer? Yes he's won a lot in the Dutch league and was a very good player but mclaren won the Dutch league which isn't exactly a competitive league, would koeman be a better option as he has premier league experience and I think would do well with your squad. Opinions?

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{Ed025's Note - im on the fence with de boer sred, koeman would make better sense to me but bigger fish may be in for him, frank would hopefully bring staam and bergkamp which would add to his suitability mate..

12 May 2016 19:16:19
De Boer won't get the premier league experience unless he is given a chance. Koeman had no PL experience until Southampton took a chance on him.

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12 May 2016 19:19:53
likewise Ed, as long as Frankie baby brought his team with him then Id be happy.

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12 May 2016 19:23:16
Ed025 I believe now is the time to get koeman due to your new financial power, pellegrini would be a good option imo, I also think that you need quite a large squad overhaul in the summer would you have di matteo?

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{Ed025's Note - di matteo is not on my wish list sred but koeman certainly would be and pellegrini i think mate..

12 May 2016 20:33:06
It's refreshing to hear realistic targets all this talk of jose is nonsense, would you take Hughes as an option? I personally would have lukaku and even give you 15 mill plus Rooney:)

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{Ed025's Note - rom will cost someone about £50m sred so if we take shrek we will want £49m as well mate :) hughes is doing well at stoke but not for me im afraid mate..

12 May 2016 20:41:38
Haha hopefully you are challenging at the higher end of the league next season.

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{Ed025's Note - that would be good mate..cheers..

12 May 2016 21:23:35
All this talk of Jose is nonsense, why?

He's still a free agent, Man U not got him yet.

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12 May 2016 21:00:38
Your welcome, obviously not higher than us but higher than city and Liverpool is fine :)

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12 May 2016 18:03:56
Well. I'm glad the info I received was wrong but tbh it just wasn't really ever an option to let him stay after the majority of fans had turned on him.

On another note if are new manager is De Boer we should be looking to bring Milik with him. He's only young and looks prolific. He would also be a decent replacement for Rom if/ when he leaves.

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12 May 2016 18:13:26
Rom will be leaving this summer unfortunatly.

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{Ed025's Note - i would expect so lanny..

12 May 2016 18:51:18
Maybe he'll stay on, depending on who the next manager is? Just a thought.

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12 May 2016 19:12:33
You can't really blame him for wanting to move on though can you. He's given us 3 years and we haven't really progressed. Maybe the new guy can convince him to stay for one more season to see how things go but I think we all know if the right club comes in for him then he will be gone.

And good luck to him I think it massively surprised us all when he came to us as he probably had better offers on the table. That's one thing we have to give Bobby props for he certainly had a nack of getting players that many would of said there was no chance.

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12 May 2016 19:37:13
Rom is a very lazy man when things are not going for him I know he has scored a lot of goals for us but along with the rest of the team he has been awful no fight in that man glad he not wearing the number 9 shirt but that shows the class of the man not wanting the shirt only letting kone have it another joke who will be sold or given away.

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12 May 2016 19:09:22
Agree with Hugo if and that's a big if we get a big name manager in then maybe rom will give him a season all depends on who we get, if it's true that moshri pulled the plug on roberto ( great guy but needed to go) then hopefully he will be trying to get us that big name, going to be a big summer :-)

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12 May 2016 17:34:47
I suppose it was inevitable on an acculumative basis n the last straw was the Sunderland result. The club has done the right thing at the right time to avoid the anger, hatred n vitriol that would of occurred tonight n Sunday. Yes I knew RM's time was up but don't condone such targeted vitriol. kudos to EFC for a well worded positive statement thanking RM for his contributions and the correct decision to postpone tonights ceremony. I haven't seen Bobbys SSN comments yet so can't comment. Bobby it didn't work out n it transpired you were a little out of your depth imo, but you conducted yourself impeccably as the face of our beloved club, in particular in terms of Hillsborough and those families affected. good luck for whatever holds for you and your family in the future, there is a club out there for you.

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12 May 2016 17:30:33
I suppose it was inevitable on an acculumative basis n the last straw was the Sunderland result. The club has done the right thing at the right time to avoid the anger, hatred n vitriol that would of occurred tonight n Sunday. Yes I knew RM's time was up but don't condone such targeted vitriol. kudos to EFC for a well worded positive statement thanking RM for his contributions and the correct decision to postpone tonights ceremony. I haven't seen Bobbys SSN comments yet so can't comment. Bobby it didn't work out n it transpired you were a little out of your depth imo, but you conducted yourself impeccably as the face of our beloved club, in particular in terms of Hillsborough and those families affected. good luck for whatever holds for you and your family in the future, there is a club out there for you.

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12 May 2016 17:27:47
In other news, what do we all think of the new kit?
I like it personally.

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12 May 2016 17:43:09
I like it, apart from the maze section at the bottom of the front. Either do it all over, or leave it out. Looks a little silly.

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12 May 2016 17:45:04
posted earlier, simple but I like it socks are really nice, should look good next year.

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12 May 2016 17:03:37
Franktheblue. Got your post mate. Thanks buddy, all good.

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12 May 2016 17:02:35
ed2 called us septics and said nothing will bedone till end of season, wrong and wrong again.

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{Ed002's Note - There is a significant proportion of septic fans - that has been evidenced over and over again. The club has moved now because they did not want the rubbish like you spoiling Sunday for everybody else. No doubt you will still go along and spew your foul hadred of the players at them - and in front of their children. It is a great pity that they needed to do that.}

12 May 2016 17:25:29
Not to be a sycophant or anything, but all Ed002 has done is provided us with what he knows. Maybe there were no plans to discuss his future until the end of the season, but with recent results, felt the need to push it forward. Nobody could predict that. We'll never know. let's not start the blame game, just because we can't complain about Martinez anymore, doesn't mean we have to find someone/ thing to moan about.

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{Ed002's Note - It is all to do with Sunday and wanting to ease the potential problems. Hence the removal of Martinez and cancelling the beano that was planned for tonight.}

12 May 2016 17:31:54
We deserve the best manager. the people s club merseysides number 1.

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12 May 2016 17:39:08
To be fair ed, the main reason he has been sacked is down to the shocking run we have had, our form since the start of March has been poor.

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{Ed002's Note - Are you some sort of half-wit?}

12 May 2016 17:44:17
spot on Ed002 now let's all move on and let sleeping dogs lie!

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12 May 2016 18:33:19
Not at all ed but your reply suggests that the only reason he has been sacked is because the fans would make his life hell. Or have I misread that? If you feel it necessary to resort to juvenile responses, directed at me, then just don't reply, leave it to another ed.

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{Ed002's Note - What I said was perfectly clear - but I accept that you may not be bright enough to understand it. I would not leave your nonsnse for another Editor to have to deal with.}

12 May 2016 18:46:52
Well that is me off, thanks for providing the media for me to sound off. Not one to demonstrate and hurl abuse so this was the only option left for me to sound off. Don't know if Roberto is/ was a nice man or not but in my opinion as a Manager at this level he has proved twice now that he is out of his depth. What I did propose his forte would be, would be as a coach with a strong man-manager above him. Not going into recriminations at all for the reason I am leaving this board. But Ed002 sometimes you really do need to take a chill pill. Finally, hopefully our Club is never put in this predicament again.

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12 May 2016 19:09:44
Stophumpin. Me and ed002 have had our disagreements but you need to distance yourself from. the way he replies, which people, myself included at times, feel is sharp and harsh and look at the actual information posted, which is usually factually correct.

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12 May 2016 17:29:08
i bought a season ticket for me and my son, even before the manager was sacked, reading everyones posts over the last couple of seasons and a new job have given me the bug again.

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12 May 2016 18:57:57
Some Everton fans held the comments, tactical awareness and overall job that Martinez was doing in contempt. They felt short changed and angry about it. It frustrates them.

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12 May 2016 16:39:26
He's gone, been confirmed by club.

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12 May 2016 15:36:43
Ed. have you seen the statement released by the clueless 1 to sky sports just a minute ago? It's unbelievable - he's had a pop at the board and said that with a bit more backing from the board and the fact he's had to work on very limited resources for the last 3 years and the 'incredible pressure' put on him by the fans. he feels he deserved more time and could of made a success of things and that he and his team have achieved great things in their time at the club! Um, that's just unbelievable, ungracious, deluded - wtf is this geezer on. he just doesn't live on this planet! He's basically slagged off the board and the fans on his departure. I've never heard anything like it. have you read this statement Ed?

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{Ed025's Note - not yet soli, just got home mate but thanks for the heads up..

12 May 2016 16:51:09
£85 million in three years is not limited resources!

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{Ed025's Note - its certainly not john, and £28m on one player is not to be sniffed at either mate..or £13m for a lemon.. :)

12 May 2016 17:00:55
Can't find this on sky sports. Where is it?

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12 May 2016 17:04:09
i think that statement is fake, its bn on facebook for a couple of hours, long before it has bn officially announced.

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12 May 2016 17:09:21
He's also got to understand that managing in the premier league is close to the pinnacle of jobs in football. He was lucky and with top jobs comes high pressure. He, unfortunately couldn't handle it and now he has lost his job. the board gave him money and the fans gave him three years.

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12 May 2016 17:14:02
Soli, do you have a link? Can't find this statement anywhere. If true sod the money and dig at the board this guy rocks up promised Champions League and then says we expected too much? Seriously if what Soli says is true the guy needs sectioning.

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12 May 2016 17:14:24
He needed to go but I still felt sorry for the guy. If he has slagged the club though then good riddance.

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12 May 2016 18:09:04
It is most certainly fake.

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12 May 2016 16:31:22
No longer a rumour Everton can confirm that Martinez has left! Also a "coincidence" that De Boer vacated his post very recently?

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12 May 2016 16:12:23
Whose actually Head of Communications?
No actual Official announcement yet, jeees how bad is this club?
Root and branch Moshiri, big salaries for Jack s#it!

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12 May 2016 16:03:44
Now this not the end, indeed it is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning!

(I nicked that off some old guy called Winston) whatever, he's gone!

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12 May 2016 15:10:21
about a week ago i posted that nsno reported that martinez will definitely be sacked by the norwich game and that they are a very very reliable source when it comes to news about everton none crap about mates at finch farm well thank you nsno for your spot on info reliable as allways.

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12 May 2016 17:16:20
not exactly scoop of the century though to be fair mate, loads of people said the same thing! It was the sensible option, no mater what we think of RM as a manager he didn't deserve to be thrown to the lions on Sunday. It would have been hard to watch.

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12 May 2016 18:54:53
nsno were the only ones who said he was definitely leaving and even said when it would be. the rest were just guessing and hoping and trusting their mates from finch farm might not be a scoop for you but they reported it with certainty a fortnight ago while others just guessed.

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12 May 2016 15:04:55
Merseyside police have published the route for tomorrow nights celebratory Everton FC Open Top Buss Parade in response to the removal of Roberto Martinez. Players and fans cannot hide their excitement.

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12 May 2016 15:32:21
Get a grip you should be ashamed fir those comments no rm wasnt the right man for the job but supporters like you make me sick.

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{Ed023's Note - You need to see the funny side to this, it's a banter page and the above poster is only supplying some of that..}

12 May 2016 15:03:02
Expect the imminent return of Moyes. I fear Bill has been plotting this for a while. God I hope I'm wrong.

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12 May 2016 15:00:13
I'm reading reports about possible managers and that Everton is the top club in the premiership looking for a new manager in the summer. It gives the impression there are no other 'top' clubs looking for a manager.

Am I missing something or isn't Chelsea looking for a manager this summer? No doubt they would be attractive to prospective managers. So we might be attractive also but s.

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{Ed023's Note - Chelsea have already appointed Conte as their new manager}

12 May 2016 15:06:28
Aw jesus! Forgot about that. Thank you for that Ed023. I'll change my comment. We are definitely the most attractive club for a manager in the premiership! 😁 Not too gone on City manager with the defense being a slight issue. Don't care who the manager is as long as he has a good record in coaching defense. Badly needed at moment imho.

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12 May 2016 14:58:16
Can we now not mention his name again on this Web site he has gone now it's what we wanted so let's look forward and not talk about him again now if it's posible it's getting boring but I bet the next post it will be mentioned.

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{Ed023's Note - He as in Sir Roberto Martinez?}

12 May 2016 15:08:12
Not mentioned in the next 2 posts Skylark. But I think you will read plenty about him on here for awhile.

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12 May 2016 15:19:56
Good idea I think sky.
Not that I'll have any say but my top 3 would be Mourinho, Koeman and Unai Emery.

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12 May 2016 15:39:37
I don't know about that enough posters still talk about Moyes?

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12 May 2016 14:53:29
Frank's in the box seat for it but he's left Ajax with 12 months left on his contract, Ajax want £2 million by all accounts if he goes to EFC and if they can negotiate then he will be our next manager.

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12 May 2016 12:25:04
Turning detective here, maybe Mourinho was always in contact with Moshiri. Looking for houses in Cheshire? maybe Man U just presumed he was going there? Rumours LVG will be kept another year, Ed02 keeps saying Koeman not an option but has to wait a year.

Is it all coming together or ed02, should I not apply for the next inspector gadget gig?

Not a rumour, just trying to find cryptic messages in all the information hahaha.

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{Ed002's Note - There will be secret messages in their somewhere BS.}

12 May 2016 14:58:53
That was meant to say; Ed02 keeps saying Koeman 'got' an option but has to wait a year for it.

Fast, fat thumbs, small letter button syndrome.

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12 May 2016 14:41:08
postponed the protest in light of the decision but won't rest until Kenwright is removed. He's the one who has to go next and asap.

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12 May 2016 14:53:31
A stig, hold on. Fair enough you don't like Bill. I don't entitled to your opinion as much as anyone but he's going in the next year or so and will not be making big decisions in the future. Leave the man be. Especially with his health.

New manager is a big step. Our future now with a new manager is the best it has looked in an awful long time. Can't wait to see what a new manager will do and bring to the club. I'll be like a child come next season. I never use this statement but 'i'm excited'. Even now for next season.

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12 May 2016 14:59:37
His health? REMEMBER nothing was official,

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12 May 2016 15:12:27
Stig he's entitled to privacy. Don't say something you could regret if he was to be very ill mate. Like him or not. Ill health must not be questioned and privacy must be respected.

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12 May 2016 15:24:38
I agree Toffee ace,

(by the way, I left an apology for you a few days ago, not sure if you saw it)
Take it easy and all the best my friend.

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12 May 2016 15:45:35
OK mates but he sold his train set so why is he still here?

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12 May 2016 18:51:55
I know stig its only a matter of time before he goes. Unless he has some honoury position with advisory role.

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{Ed025's Note - which he thoroughly deserves imo NBTB, people have short memories or dont understand just what he has done for this club mate..

12 May 2016 14:38:56
My two pence worth in Bobby getting the boot - I think it's the right decision and he wasn't up to the job. I can't help but think that the whole series of events leading up to his departure have left a sour taste and a blot on the Everton fans' copy book. The way some people behaved was nothing short of despicable and they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. I can't help but think that the board have let the fans force their hand and make the decision for them. As much as I am in agreement with the decision to let him go, I feel it's a sad day for the club the way this has been dealt with - banners, protests and planes - and indeed the beginning of a new era where the vociferous few dictate the direction of the club.

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12 May 2016 15:16:03
Ped I agree with most of your statement except the very last few words.
Last time I looked it was around 86% of fans wanted him gone so I don't thinks it's the vociferous few who dictate the direction of the club.
He's gone and I wish him and his family well for the future, although I don't think they'll have anything to worry about, not financially anyway.

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12 May 2016 15:11:58
Couldn't agree more the seeds of Roberto's demise were sown as early as the Southampton game when some idiots flew a plane over the ground, and only deteriorated after that with fans booing any pass that didn't go forward.

I'm not defending his record this year or last year for that matter, but some fans need to take a long hard look at themselves. Seen some comments on here saying that this is the best squad we have had since the 80's and that Bobby has ruined their confidence and ability, without even realizing that their behaviour has contributed to that as well.

Anyway, onward and upwards just hope that these fans don't turn us into a revolving door club like Newcastle and Aston Villa recently with two managers or more a season or we will end up in the Championship!

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12 May 2016 15:16:03
Ped I agree with most of your statement except the very last few words.
Last time I looked it was around 86% of fans wanted him gone so I don't thinks it's the vociferous few who dictate the direction of the club.
He's gone and I wish him and his family well for the future, although I don't think they'll have anything to worry about, not financially anyway.

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12 May 2016 18:19:15
I'm not denying that the majority of blues wanted him gone Frank and I believe he would have gone in the summer, it's the small minority that actually acted upon this and conducted themselves in a wholly distasteful way ensuring that the board had to do something that they would have done anyway, but to the behest of those few people who thought it necessary to spout vitriol and embarrass themselves and the club in the process. I have said it before on here so won't labour my point, but the whole way that this has gone has really put a downer on the future for the club for me mate. Not how any grown person should be behaving toward another human for just going about a job in the way he believes best. If these "fans" want a bigger say in the way the club is run, they should buy it.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with a lot of that pedro, the club for me have done the right thing by not letting him get embarrassed on sunday, i hold no grudge against the guy myself hes just a fella who tried his best but was found a little short, i wish him all the best for the future, and to all the fans who were ready to scalp him you dont represent me or the club..

12 May 2016 14:37:26
Problem with Roberto was he always talked up players more than their value. Barkley he over-hyped from the outset. He had a great first season and that is to his credit. But over three years he still shows a failing in how to set up a defence and to balance a midfield. We have been crying out for a midfied major but that was never addressed as we stocked up on sideways players. To say Gareth Barry is your most constructive player, as good as he can be at times, says it all. Martinez is a nice guy and we wish him well, but I think it is time to push the boat out in terms of a new manager. Not return to the Moyes over-cautious days. We were all refreshed by the style in Robert´s first season. what we want is someone who can engineer better tactical awareness and knows how to spend the cash well (Niasse? ) to bring back the passion, fortress Goodison and a real threat from the moment the ball is released to the midfield.

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12 May 2016 14:37:19
. Unsworth in charge for Saturday. well deserved I say!

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12 May 2016 14:33:01
Should have happened after Derby. Hope the official announcement includes backroom staff clear out too.

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12 May 2016 14:37:45
Frank De Boer for me.

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12 May 2016 14:15:52
Finally he is gone. Hallelujah. Let's go Dutch, Koeman would be my 1st choice but it looks like it will be my 2nd choice De Boer as he is available after quitting Ajax sure he will do a lot better than brown shoes. COYB.

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12 May 2016 14:09:02
. Frank De Boer is going to Inter Milan by the looks of things acc. To sources in Italy. looks like that ships sailed by then!

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12 May 2016 15:14:38
If he was going to Inter Milan why would he be 2/ 1 favourite to be our next. Maybe the bookies have got it wrong, doubt it.

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12 May 2016 15:14:38
If he was going to Inter Milan why would he be 2/1 favourite to be our next. Maybe the bookies have got it wrong, doubt it.

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12 May 2016 14:04:02
Martinez sacked! It's official now! At last some good news!

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12 May 2016 14:48:03
I'm going to have a couple of beers later on today in celebration to him going. Thank god!

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12 May 2016 14:03:27
The atmosphere on Sunday will be like winning the league!

I wish him all of the best but was never my preferred option. I hope we don't look to the past but instead think big and start acting like the BIG club we know we are!

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12 May 2016 13:56:11
Now the inevitable has happened can we put to bed the talk of Mike Walker mark 2 and get behind the lads on Sunday. Yes this season has been a disaster but that is the past. Hopefully keep hold of our top players but only if they are 100% committed. With the right balance and teamwork anything is possible, just ask Leicester.

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12 May 2016 14:14:12
Well, we got our wish, Bobbys gone, just waiting on official confirmation.

Hopefully now we can get some positivity back on these pages and support the new manager (probably de boer) and whichever players he deems good enough to play for this great club.

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12 May 2016 13:52:32
But I believe that is due to the manager. Would love to see what a different approach to this squad could. Ultimately imo it was Martinez lack of versatility that was his downfall. Just wasn't to be.

No need to slate him anymore. Wish him all the best.

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12 May 2016 13:57:05
The players are bang average they can all leave too.

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12 May 2016 13:50:45
Sacked! Nice bloke by all accounts just not a great manager! De boer nx? Will have to pay ajax 2mill because he has 1 year left apparently he's only on a serbatical. Talkssports dutch correspondant.

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12 May 2016 14:24:58
De Boer quit Ajax yesterday reckon he was told the job at Everton was his if he was a free agent. Bring Bergcamp (spelling) with you to work with Barkley. Only way is up.

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12 May 2016 13:50:42
We got our wish so there should be no need for abuse. Wasn't happy with when he was appointed but was pleasantly surprised that he done well with recruitment. People saying we need a clear out of players. Fair enough if that's what you think but I don't agree with that.

I agree the players did not represent the jersey properly over the last 4 to 5 weeks but.

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12 May 2016 13:48:18
I would just to say good luck to Bobby. Thanks for a great first season, its a pity it didn't end well. You will be ever part of Evertons great history. All the best for the future.

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12 May 2016 13:55:47
Yes I agree Charlie, unfortunately he sang a good tune but was not up to the job in the long run. Hope he can get a new job in Spain, nice guy but not for us.

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12 May 2016 13:47:44
Martinez sacked, moshiri making the decision.

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12 May 2016 13:41:21
Now that he's gone, who do you think will be our next manager Eds?

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{Ed023's Note - De Boer}

12 May 2016 13:53:38
Thanks ed 23!

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{Ed023's Note - It's just a personal opinion though, not saying it's a guarantee}

12 May 2016 14:09:05
Makes sense. De Boer leaves Ajax yesterday and Martinez sacked today. I wonder if someone from the board has had a quiet word with De Boer's agent.

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12 May 2016 13:39:37
On the Echo now, anything concrete Ed?

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{Ed023's Note - Looks like the inevitable has happened}

12 May 2016 13:30:02
SSN just reported the clueless one has gone!

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12 May 2016 13:17:31
In work phone on loud talk sport on the radio doing a piece about de Boer just waiting for any news don't think it's going to happen though just anything coming out of Goodison would help us to see what happens Sunday.

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12 May 2016 13:34:57
Hes gone.

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12 May 2016 12:51:04
what do you all think of the new kit, with all the RM rubbish no one has mentioned it!

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12 May 2016 12:58:31
Liked the cool socks too, yeah usually the new kits have to grow on me Nice!

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12 May 2016 13:01:06
It's simple, smart, I quite like it wakka.

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12 May 2016 13:04:35
Like it, and just for a change I've no complaints about buying it.

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12 May 2016 13:44:52
Nice and simple. thumbs up. hopefully no green jersey this year either.

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12 May 2016 14:06:57
I agree nice simple kit, socks look good!

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12 May 2016 12:48:26
See you all at 5.30 at St Georges Hall no matter what happens the running of our club is woeful. so let's tell them, but keep it dignified mates.

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12 May 2016 12:41:52
As usual these rumours originating on twitter that Martinez has gone, that being the case it is a rapid departure, not even 1300 yet. Notice Neil Lennon has put his ten pence worth into the Martinez debate, may I just say Neil you were a midfielder after my own heart but as a Manager down here in the tough league you were pants. Anyone could manage Celtic to the Scottish Championship especially while Rangers have been down the nether regions.

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12 May 2016 12:41:28
I want Martinez gone, as passionately as anyone, but, if he has not gone before tonights dinner, please, those who are planning a protest outside, do not do anything to bring our club into disrepute, afder all, that is Kenwright's and Martinez's, job, and one must admire how well they have done it.

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12 May 2016 12:53:46
JCW admire how Martinez has done his job, are you having a laugh.

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12 May 2016 12:10:57
12 million to pay off Roberto. Well done Bill in extending his contract after one year!

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12 May 2016 12:27:31
remember how good he was after that first year!

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12 May 2016 12:29:42
where that from Stig.

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12 May 2016 12:36:21
That is my adding mate, but hope its less.

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12 May 2016 11:52:22
Bookies just suspended all bets on RM sacked.
Next few hours?

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12 May 2016 11:46:01
. well, Frank De Boer wants the job, Pellegrini wants the job. but app. Moshiri favours Mourinhio but has to convince the rest of the board - I don't know what about really as he's a proven winner. app. Koeman is his no.2 choice!

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12 May 2016 12:12:33
It would make my year if koeman came. I'd rather him than mourinhio to be honest. Plus Bergkamp has said he's not leaving with fdb so not to sure on Fdb either :/
I will support the next manager though who ever it may be.

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12 May 2016 12:13:39
Soli please, no teasing where Mourinho is concerned.
If we got him I swear I will run through town naked, I'd be that happy.

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12 May 2016 12:18:30
I just want mourinho now so frank has to streak the city centre!

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12 May 2016 12:26:47
. I might join you Frankie. & no, I'm not teasing about Jose. it's true - he's Moshiris preferred choice and has a close friendship with him!

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12 May 2016 11:27:20
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

How wrong I was about Roberto. I've supported him for months but have changed my opinion on him as of the last few days, kudos to those who called this a while back.

There are plenty of people who said he was not up to the job and I thought it was reactionary and premature, but you have been proved right, and I, wrong.

2 points

1. The players: I argued he had the players, that he was a great man manager, a great colleague, friend, arm round the shoulder. I fear he is far too gentle with them, they don't fear him, they don't respond to him, they don't seem to respect him, they won't play for him. They all know they are a 10 yard pass away from being proclaimed as 'phenomenal' footballers.

Whatever you say about footballers having too much power this is an example of a manager with no power.

2. The media: When the sun is out and the wind is in the Martinez mainsail it's all superlatives, press-box cappuccinos and smiles. When the going gets tough he reacts badly, dishonestly and inappropriately. He shows no insight into dreadful performances and it has alienated the fans and the media.

Finally
I have never called for a man to lose his job. I don't know what is happening in the dressing room, but I don't trust RM to hold onto players this summer. We need a change, sorry Roberto

To Fans
I urge fans to level no hate against RM, he is a man trying to do well for EFC, he is just failing, let's be fair to him. Call for change, we pay for that privilege, but let's remain classy about this.

Cheltonianblue
jakalakawaka.

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12 May 2016 11:18:27
Please Everton make a bold statement and bring in Frank De Boer! RM is a nice guy but his lack of defensive knowledge and lack of set play knowledge has shown thru again like it did at Wigan we've tried the Spanish tip/ tap style in our own half now let's go with the Dutch style and build from the back we have 3 x England,1 x Argentine and 1 x Ireland National team players in our defense so surely that tell you something not right come on Kenwright and Moshir give the supporters something to look forward to on Sunday!

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{Ed001's Note - do you really rate De Boer that highly? He has had the best horse in a two horse race for years, yet has managed to lose a couple of times in a row now. Not sure he is really the answer myself.}

12 May 2016 11:31:30
RM is a nice guy? why do you know him? it clear you don't, believe me he is not, and please don't be sorry for him, he will go with a big pay off.

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12 May 2016 11:42:06
Ed01

Top post imo, that and the belief in the 'LVG system' are the cause of my own reservations.

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{Ed001's Note - maybe he would be completely different if given a freer rein, but it would still worry me.}

12 May 2016 12:01:40
Devils advocate stig. Do you know him? Do you know he's not a nice guy? I mean we can all see he's failed as manager but doesn't mean he's not a nice guy though does it.

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12 May 2016 12:17:37
Ed 01, The Everton way is to take forever to get a new manager De Boar is proven in Holland and has back room staff like Stam and Bergkamp, 4 x straight championships with Ajax I would take that over the names bouncing about O'Neil, Hughes small club Rafa do we want to wait all summer again hoping on Lowe from Germany or should be grab an opportunity to bring in a proven Dutch Manager just remember he was a TOP player who could attract players to our club.

Stig,

Your right I don't know him and I'm sure he will get a mighty big pay off we did have a good 1st year with him all be it on the back of Moyes defense but he did bring some decent players in and under the right management hopefully will perform I don't wish him any Grief I just wish him gone.

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12 May 2016 09:49:44
When will he stop this blame game? BBC football running with:

Manager Roberto Martinez says Everton have struggled to focus on the Premier League following their FA Cup semi-final defeat.

So basically he will be a success if he only every has one compition to compete in a year, job done!

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{Ed023's Note - Didn't he get this job based on the FA Cup?...}

12 May 2016 13:08:34
Have we only been s**t since the semi? Martinez hasn't been paying attention of thays the case.

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12 May 2016 09:38:45
all the blame has to be directed at the board, martinez clearly didn't have what it takes months ago, players not performing is all down to the form over the last few months, lack of confidence. the board has dragged it on and surely if they thought a lot of martinez they would release him before sunday. fair play to martinez he has tried and hasn't walked away from the club (we all wish he would) .

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{Ed023's Note - Why would he walk away when sticking around earns him a pay day when he is eventually sacked}

12 May 2016 10:59:15
He didn't have what it takes when we employed him. Only us would employ a manager who'd flirted with relegation for the previous 3 seasons before finally getting relegated. Says everything about our ambition. His 1st season was a fluke IMHO, seasons 2 and 3 are a better barometer of his lack of ability.

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12 may 2016 09:06:42
may be all this silence from both sides is due to the fact they cannot agree on severance figure.

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12 May 2016 09:32:44
Can we not organise a whip round?
Put me down for a tenner.

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12 May 2016 09:46:14
Allegedly £2m but if they wait till june nothing.

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12 May 2016 09:51:44
Olly.

Maybe RM wants a big sorry from the board for not backing him weeks ago and insists Leighton packs his bags and carries them to the taxi?

Basically the manager wants his cake and eat it too!

He has failed once again in the PL and sent a team freefalling yes we are to all intents and purposes in relegation mode!

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12 May 2016 10:17:32
Ed 2 said that rumour was a load of garbage Wakka and he is well informed, think he will be gone within 24 hrs mate.

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12 May 2016 11:32:55
I hope so Murf we are becoming a laughing stock, If we are a 'big club' then the demands from the board to the manager and team should be for success either provide it or I will find someone that can! For to long we have muddled our way accepting mediocrity living on our history, He has had more backing financially than those before so it brings the pressure at this level.

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12 May 2016 13:30:53
as far as I understand it Martinez signed a 4mill, 5 year contract in 2014 so it has 3 years to run. so unless the board put a performance clause in there, if they sack him they will be breaking his contract and would have to pay up his entire contract I'm probably wrong and I have no actual legal knowledge on the matter just don't see the point in a contract if you can just break it and not have to pay it up. By the way not saying for a minute he deserves to walk away with 12 mil in his back pocket for what he's done these past 2 years but a contract is a contract.

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12 May 2016 08:54:02
Listen I want a new high profile manager.
Roberto martinez is a fantasticly nice man and I think he isn't as bad a manager as everyone thinks our team is a really really good young team but I don't think the team has stood up an been counted so rm is the boss but it's not just down to him I feel sorry for this guy.

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12 May 2016 10:44:30
Shakey, read sky sports article ( the stats Everton boss won't want to see) which I posted above, you may change your mind about him not being as bad as what people think.

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12 May 2016 10:49:57
There are too many single minded people on this site you can't put all the blame on rm this is a talented team an they have not performed at all for the boss so why aren't people screaming for a new first team and just screaming for a new boss.

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12 May 2016 08:37:20
Frank DB has left Ajax this morning.

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12 May 2016 08:54:59
De Boer gone to 6/ 4 odds-on with paddy power.

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12 May 2016 08:55:32
I just wonder, could we have him in place by the game on Sunday. Such a massive boost for the fans confidence and something to keep us going through the summer.

OK, there is so much needs to happen before that becomes reality but the game last night showed that Bobbys position is untenable and I'd the club don't remove him (sacked, mutual consent, etc) by Sunday, he will receive some horrible abuse, which is unfair on a man just trying to do his job. He hasn't succeeded but he tried, it didn't work, we move on with another. No nasty, horrible abuse please.

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12 May 2016 09:26:31
Ideal scenario is relinquish Martinez of his duties, plonk rhino in charge for Norwich game but unveil De Boer as our new manager to the Goodison faithful before the game to get the place rocking.

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12 May 2016 10:36:39
De boring won't be good enough unfortunately get Moyes back.

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12 May 2016 11:08:23
Sorry Alan would rather have De Boer over The Bore.

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12 May 2016 08:34:15
Perfect scenario lining up. RM wanted by Valencia. FDB to Everton. Sorted. Now if only Carlsberg arranged new managers!

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{Ed001's Note - De Boer is interested in the job.}

12 May 2016 08:27:47
It was interesting last week Distin was interviewed on talk sport he was asked about Everton and why this season the defence and team weren't doing so well.
His response was simple five words " we worked as a team".

It is very evident in watching Everton no one seems to know what their doing, there's no enjoyment in the play. The team has a number of individuals who think they are too big for the club.

There is no camaraderie between the players.
I think the players have fell out with RM and themselves.

Ranieri who let's be perfectly honest is not an average manager has won the biggest prize in English football has put his success down to having players with the right attitude.

That goes for owner chairman coaches players and backro staff.

The fallout if this season should be reviewed and people held accountable not just RM how have we sunk so low!

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12 May 2016 07:43:58
We need a General. Sign Rooney. NOW!

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12 May 2016 08:20:27
I'm pro Rooney too Bkk but I just can't see it happening.

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12 May 2016 06:02:54
Yes rm needs to go but we also had 11 spineless bstards out there playing last nigh don't blame rm for everything as I say those players last night were a disgrace and spineless.

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{Ed025's Note - totally agree alan, we need a good clear out mate..

12 May 2016 06:36:07
Yes they are Professionals and we do not know what goes on behind closed doors but all I/ we can see quite clearly despite the rhetoric, the players are just not playing for Martinez. I totally blame Martinez and his Staff, far from 'getting' Everton he and his incompetent Wigan Staff (no it is not too harsh) have sucked the life out of the Squad. Last season we failed because of Europe, this season it is because of the FA Cup. Never wanted Martinez, have mates at Wigan so already knew about his methods and obstinacy before he arrived and was dreading it. I am not happy and yes totally blame Kenwright and Elstone. One is a hopeless romantic and the other (well I can't print it) .

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12 May 2016 09:21:23
If the players are not playing for Martinez then they should be even more ashamed of themselves and return their match day wages. What a joke. They are supposed to be professionals for god sake. How childish can you get ' I don't like the manager anymore so I'm not playing' what about the thousands of fans who turn up week in week out to watch their hero's play for their team. The thousands who contribute to the players massive wages. These guys are adults. Whatever their feelings towards each other when they get out on the field they should suck it up and get on with the job regardless.

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12 May 2016 09:49:50
Listening to TS this morning Ray Wilkins asked Mick Quinn 'have you never played for a manager' his answer was NO so I'm not sure its just that, his other point was 'You play for the fans that pay the money and turn up in their thousands home and away!

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12 May 2016 05:42:01
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Last night was another embarrassment, loads of passing but in our own half never looked like shooting, or scoring.
No one following up, nothing. I actually felt sorry for rm last night as he looks like he is about to cry on TV in the interview. We was all on his back when he never dropped Tim Howard well I now think this is down to bill and the board, he is clearly out of his depth. Do him a favour and let him go, hopefully like Carragher said if he is to go do it before next home game.
The team needs new manager straight away to get some confidence back otherwise big trouble next year.

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{Ed025's Note - no argument from me there pb..

12 May 2016 05:47:08
How's things ed. can't wait for season to be over, heard yesterday de boer left Ajax from a Dutch news paper have you heard anything.

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{Ed025's Note - yes he has left them pb, that does not mean he is coming to us though mate..

12 May 2016 05:57:43
We got a good chance though I think, I tell you what mate, who ever gets to take over has one hell of a job getting us back into some form after rm mess. Moyes built a solid team over his time and rm destroyed us in two years. Just hope we get a good manager who can attract decent players.

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{Ed025's Note - everyone (and that includes me) have been saying that we have a great squad and under performing...im not so sure now, we need a good clear out as they are obviously not as good as we all thought mate..

12 May 2016 06:18:52
Totally agree, but how does the team go from 5th to this same players basically. We need a really strong personality like carsley in midfield to tell certain players to do there job. Also a centre half who ain't mates with everyone haha who will get stuck in.

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{Ed025's Note - we lack leaders on the pitch pb, a peter reid or a mick lyons who you would see screaming at team mates constantly..

 
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