Everton Banter Archive November 13 2017

13 Nov 2017 22:00:41
I think it's time everybody got real with things. we are NOT a big club at the moment - the only thing big about us is the problems and unrealistic expectations.
How typical that our period of big money investment has resulted in chaos, disappointment and ridicule and courting managers of the level who we have been linked with. Wholesale changes from the top down is the only way we will progress. time to say goodbye to the so called "legends" and get some real modern football people into the club or else the demise will only continue.

13 Nov 2017 22:27:00
Said that for ages Nev7611 but been slapped down (metaphorically) for it, Mr Kenwright saved us etc! I get that and eternally grateful but as you quite rightly indicate times change and we must change with it. There is a reason Mr Moshri was only allowed 49.9 percent and I believe it was a selfish reason.

14 Nov 2017 06:25:32
The reason he’s only got 49% is because that’s all he needs to have a majority as there are about 3% of shares out there that were lost in the war because the certificates were destroyed in the blitz. So 49% will go unchallenged because it’s impossible for anyone to hold more than him. He’s a billionaire for a reason and not buying a penny more than he needs is one of them. Mathematically in this case 49% is equivalent to a controlling steak.

14 Nov 2017 10:49:26
Total agree about a lot of unreal expectations would like to know what the demise continuing statement is about though the last time we won anything was 22yrs ago since then we have seen dross seen a lot of mediocre stuff and occasionally a bit of good stuff. I don't think this season will be any different from the last 10. Top 8 finish if we can get a bit of form back into the team.

14 Nov 2017 19:32:51
Toffee do not disagree with any of that, but would like the theoretical control to be factual. Are you telling me that Bill does not have any shares or enough to deny Moshri 50.1. Bill should be an honoury Chairman and let go of his toy it really is that simple, while he refrains the Club has no chance of meaningful progression.

13 Nov 2017 17:09:56
Until we get a striker in that will complement our other players we will struggle to score goals so we need to get our defence well drilled and tight, conceded far too many messing about at the back without the quality jags and Williams can't do it so, now if it was stones and Keane different story but until then we have to be a little more direct Klassen should be given time his class will come good but when you play him Sigurdsson and Rooney it won't work, Rooney should of been turned into a midfielder 3 years ago.

13 Nov 2017 17:20:27
Rooney was turned into a midfielder 3 years ago. Long time since he led the or England line.
He was never bought into be a striker for us. just someone screwed up the one position the ousted manager stated time and again that he wanted 2 strikers not including Calvet or Wayne.

Wayne is here because he was free and took a pay cut to help shift a few shirts, give us back up to the strikers and to maybe play the tricky away legs of Euro games and steel a goal here and there.
He was never meant to be as involved as he has been. I feel sorry for the guy because he is in the firing line from the cretin brigade.

13 Nov 2017 17:52:58
I hate this predictive text.
Long time since he led the line for manutd.

13 Nov 2017 19:24:37
I agree with most of that. But and it is a big but, he is used in the very position earmarked for two players we spent 70 million on. One of those hasn't as yet adapted but the other a proven No: 10 is being wasted. Unsy even dropped Wayne for the very game/ competition you have said he should be utilised for.

13 Nov 2017 21:31:10
Sorry but when was the last time rooney played cm.

13 Nov 2017 10:33:01
Have to wonder if Everton are unique in the Premiership for their hesitancy in transfer/ appointment decision making and negotiations. We all know the outcome before it happens. Dither Dither Dither and then appoint the wrong person. Everton are the RISC chip of the Football World.

13 Nov 2017 13:24:16
Why rush in? We have someone there at the moment to do the job until the right appointment comes. So they can take their time if it means we get the manager to take us forward.

13 Nov 2017 13:55:29
Toffee. Many years ago when we actually needed her income my wife - a well educated, well qualified person in her particular field - resigned from her job - reason, she was fed up. Resigning without having another job to go to meant it was tighten belts time. Our lesson from that, was also passed on to our kids and yes myself included. Everton are only just out of the relegation zone, we cannot tighten our belts any further or we will be back down there. They should with responsibility had at least a verbal agreement with someone else. I like Unsy but now is not the time to throw him in the deep end, a return of one win in four, will not head us up the table.

13 Nov 2017 14:14:59
I wouldn't rely too much on his stats its too early. In the prem he has won 2 out of 3 which isn't bad. I do question his team selection and wonder if he is afraid to drop Rooney or Schneiderlin because he wants the job so much.

13 Nov 2017 15:27:08
I get your point BDM but maybe the temp measure of Unsy is their safety net so that they could react quickly to the poor results and sack Koeman. I’m not saying it’s the perfect scenario but I’d say it’s of little risk. With Palace up next I’d imagine we will have a plan should we win and a different one should we lose.

13 Nov 2017 16:20:17
You could look at that another way. At the time your wife made a decision without thinking of the full implications of doing so. Would us appointing someone who we may not think is the best candidate not be doing the same thing? Of course I hope it all worked out ok for you and your family but I would much prefer a well thought through appointment than a rushed one at the minute.

{Ed025's Note - me too cropper..