Everton Banter Archive April 14 2016

14 Apr 2016 22:03:57
. looking at the dark side beat Dortmund tonight should be enough to make Blue Bill pull the trigger very soon. makes me feel sick how well they are doing and the fact they have a brilliant manager, we're doing crap and have a crap manager. & to make things worse my wife's a red. she's not stopped gloating since!

14 Apr 2016 20:11:02
Was talking to a mate of mine on Sunday about martinez and he told me a story about his sons mate playing for wigan at Tottenham when they were 5-0 down at half time a player asked him at half time do we're go narrow in the second half boss and keep the score down martinez replied to a stunned changing room no well will play the same way that's what the fans want us to do it finished 9-0 and the away end was empty when they came out for the second half well done Roberto your sending us the same way.

15 Apr 2016 10:02:53
I want Martinez out as much as anyone but actually that Spurs game was 1-0 at half time and Wigan list 9-1 in the end.

14 Apr 2016 19:32:19
Tough game last night, palace where on a high from there win atvtge weekend, palace have been in the same boat as us, under performing, we say we shouldn't be where we are, but palace have some very good players and if they could score they would be higher, that's why we got a point last night, yes RM has to go, but if he didn't make the changes we would of slated him if we lost, if he'd done this more often when we where 2-0 to the good, we might not be talking about him like we are now.

14 Apr 2016 16:39:58
Surely questions should be asked why having paid £13m for a player ie Niasse, is he sat on the bench. At this stage of the season he should be starting with him in order to assess his capabilities whether he will make it in the Premiership. The directors should be asking.

Martinez comments that He didn't think McCarthy second yellow WA justified proves he is in cuckoo land. FRom tv could see McCarthy clearly moves sideways to stop the other player, fully justified and played as if that was what he was wanting.

14 Apr 2016 17:08:51
Agree. Niasse obviously not good enough and a wqste of money. Would like to see Dowell and Williams in squad for last few games.

14 Apr 2016 17:19:40
I agree with Martinez about the yellow like he didn't move sideways at all the lad ran into him what's he ment to do disappear?

14 Apr 2016 18:41:18
I seen the game and if it had not been a 2nd yellow their would have been another, McCarthy was out of it, we all new he would not stay on till the end.

14 Apr 2016 18:42:05
Watch the tv . He made a definite movement sideways. The camera doesn't lie.

15 Apr 2016 08:09:08
I think we'd mentioned it on the chat that he was going to go before the incident. For me he looked like he wanted off. It was really strange.

14 Apr 2016 14:45:33
After a long period where so many posters wanted to get shot of Howard and give Robles an opportunity, I'm somewhat surprised everyone now wants to replace him. I think he has taken his chance and put in some decent performances!
Maybe we should stick with him he will only get better as he is still young, so maybe we should look for a promising No2 to him?

14 Apr 2016 19:27:24
I'm with you wakka57. A good number 2. Someone to keep him on his toes. Can't have him becoming complacent if he is not kept on his toes.

14 Apr 2016 09:12:01
Hi all, think there could be big changes this summer especially if Martinez is finally removed. I see Howard, Hibbert, Gibson, McAidey, Osman, Pienaar, Kone, Lukaku. Possibly Oviedo, Mirallas and Stones all moving on. We have a few young players to come in L. Garbutt, M. Holgate, Williams, Dowell and Tarashaj, That would leave us needing 5 or 6 players. GK possibly Cillesan, Begovic, Heaton, Ospinna and Rico could be in the running. CB not much choice here but we have Jags, Mori, Galloway, Browning and Holgate but we need a proven and commanding CB. We need a creative goal scoring CM not to many of them available. If Mirallas leaves we will need 2 wingers for me Bolaise and Yarmelenko to go with Lennon, Deulofeu and Dowell. We need to 2 strikers, a bit of choice here Bony, Jansen, Benteke, Embolo, the other Belgium lad can't spell his name stats with M and S. Long. Would love Mane and Long but don't think we would be able to get Mane. So for me Embolo and Long to go with Tarashaj and hopefully a much improved Niasse or his stay could be very short lived if he can not get a grip on the Premier League, Bony would be my choice if Niasse needs replacing. So should be a very busy summer so for me would love Koeman, Begovic, Dann, Bolasie, Yarmelenko, Embolo, Bony, Long and a creative, goal scoring CM no one springs to mind.

14 Apr 2016 09:55:50
Good post Dero, definitely like Begovich and the others too though but would prefer him 1st, Yarmolenko and Bolasie yes, Bony was awesome before he went to City, you can hardly impress when you keep a bench warm all match he needs to move and certainly will do, I like Long too but think some fans would prefer we aim higher, Mane is possible mate, just a pity we never finished higher in league as Kante has 20 million buy out, no chance there though.

14 Apr 2016 06:54:59
It is a strange feeling being an Evertinian at the moment and we all do feel different. Some come on here angry at Martinez saying he is ruining our club. Some say he is just not adequate and what he didat Wigan is being repeated. Others blame Bill Kenright for taking him on and not yet sacking him. I actually feel sorry for the guy and think he is actually way out of his depth. I have posted many times about our lack of goal scoring midfielders and most people do not agree with me. I accept that (but still think I am right) . One thing I did last nigh was watch that game and try really hard to be impartial and just assess what was going on and see positives and negatives for what they are. I will start with positives:
The team spirit was obviously there and everyone gave 100%. Our defence battled well and considering we were down to 10 men for a good chunk of the game did well to take a point. Lennon looked great again. He nipped in to win possession so many times. We had 2 or 3 really good chances to scrore. Mori and Stones looked ok together, so hopefully won't miss Jags too much.
Now the negaatives:
Palace are a bottom team but at times were far superior to us and we were hanging on at times. They really deserved to win. Barkley aside, we had no real goal threat. Lukaku was completely isolated and nearly every time we cleared the ball it came back. Lennon was our best player and even when we went down to 10 men we were still having a good chunk of possession. However, when RM made the changes, we could not hold on to the ball and come the end we were hanging on by pure grit and determination.
My final point is that 4 years ago we were literally battering teams witn shots and attempts. 3 years ago we were still doing it. 2 years ago things started to slide. Right now, we look like a bottom side. I do fear for us and I do think it is to missing Pienaar and Osman who have been replaced by hard working players in a formation that is just not balanced and other teams can organise themselves to stop the threat from Lukaku and Barkley. then we look awful.

14 Apr 2016 13:26:20
We may have had shots and attempts but we didn't score the amount of goals we are now. Genuine attempts are more important than the amount of shots you have. The problem though is still defensively we have been really poor last and this season and this is the root of our problems.

As for Lukaku being isolated. His job as a lone striker is that when he gets the ball he holds it up and brings in the attacking midfielders. He didn't do that last night. He kept giving it away and hardly found one pass to one of our players. Last night he was truly shocking. He moans and whines but needs to take a look in the mirror and improve his first touch and hold up play.

He's good when running at defenders and that is when we see the best of him but as a lone striker this is something you won't do the most. Back to goal and working to bring in your team mates. This has to be his priority.

14 Apr 2016 03:40:49
Watching the game, I thought it would be a 3-nil win by Crystal Palace at the beginning.

Credit to the defense spending 42 minutes down by a man. J-Mac was careless tonight.

Take off Lennon? It worked out with Oveido. Besic for Kone was necessary. Super-Kev for Barkley was adequate.

Stones was better, but heavens above, can we learn how to clear a ball out of the box? And can someone learn how to whip a corner kick into the box?

A stolen point, it was.

Now, if this team can somehow put together an eight game run (6 in the PL and 2 in the FAC) , the season is salvaged with some silver change to spare.

No FA cup and a bottom half finish should be all she wrote for RM. As other posters have stated, it is a business, and the business is winning.

A FA Cup and a bottom half finish, or vice versa should not be enough to save RM.

Lukaku's destiny lies elsewhere. Funds from his sale could bring in a keeper, a creative midfielder, and another striker (Jansesen and Milik have been featured on the Rumours page) .

14 Apr 2016 04:11:18
And please no one mention if Balotelli or Benteke are available.

14 Apr 2016 06:26:05
Love the positive talk, come back mate and talk again after the derby. I for one will be in hiding.

14 Apr 2016 08:21:23
JMac was stupid mate not careless, that challenge when on a yellow, that's called letting your team mates down, hope they let him know this in the changing rooms afterwards, not paid silly money to make stupid mistakes

I agree NBITU that even if we win the FA Cup RM should be gone, I personally think he will be too as Bill will not be pulling any strings in 8 weeks time as Mr Moshiri will have full control, to be honest he already has 49.9% so he is the main man already and is hardly likely to listen to Bill if he still wants RM, not long now to a new start, new stadium and new manager

Also Wobe's you stated you wanted a new stadium before they whack you in the fireplace as you are 50 odd now, just remember mate 50 is the new 40 fella.

14 Apr 2016 08:32:48
It is Murf but then I wasn't in very good nick at 40😃.

14 Apr 2016 09:39:31
ha ha, falling apart myself mate and only 44 on 23rd April, hope I have a good reason to celebrate, i'd like to say 40 is the new 30 but I may look early 30s but feel late 50s, dodgy knees, dodgy back, dodgy eyes, dodgy hearing, if I was a dog I would be getting the big sleepy needle now already.

14 Apr 2016 10:03:26
Lol Degs. You reckon you look early 30s but have got dodgy eyes. Stop listening to the Mrs mate. Especially when she's just about to go shopping on pay day. ;)

14 Apr 2016 11:16:43
she has only just started talking to me Ace from Tuesday, I didn't even do anything ha ha, mad women, still don't know what I done but apologised last night, honest no idea what I've done, i'm coming back as a woman defo, pop a couple of sprogs out then easy life.