Everton Banter Archive January 15 2020

 

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15 Jan 2020 19:11:00
In the last three seasons to date we have sold players for 214m.
During the same time we have bought players for 480m.
Overall deficit of 157m. Average spend of 52m a year.
What is more interesting is that we currently have 16 players out on loan. Of which at least 12 of these will probably never see first team football again.
So you can see just how big a job Brands has on his hands, and maybe why we are not rushing into the market just yet.

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{Ed002's Note - These figures are of no relevance to the issues in hand.}

15 Jan 2020 19:30:01
I was just trying to highlight to supporters how big a job it is running a football club. And the challenges involved in this. Many supporters are desperate for us to buy more players. But this is not sustainable without reducing the size of the current squad. I would suggest that this is relevant to the current issues facing the club, and the future of the club.

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15 Jan 2020 20:04:18
Well done Woburn mate, makes you realise just how difficult it is to run a club, and just how quickly it could all get out of hand.

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15 Jan 2020 20:15:22
Woburn
Based on your figures the deficit would have been £256m .

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15 Jan 2020 20:27:44
yea your right mate, it should actually be 266, ran out of fingers. :) average spend of 88m per season.

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15 Jan 2020 20:28:56
Oops, 😂.

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16 Jan 2020 09:10:11
Brands is getting some undeserved stick at the minute. Especially as he's been hoodwinked to work in a system that's not the one he specialises in and was hired for.
All that considered, he did some epic work getting 24 players out. Still more to do though.

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16 Jan 2020 10:02:22
Keane, Iwobi, failed to get Zaha, Failed to get centre half. Not sure he can be called a huge success either mind.

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16 Jan 2020 10:02:22
Keane, Iwobi, failed to get Zaha, Failed to get centre half. Not sure he can be called a huge success either mind.

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16 Jan 2020 11:44:37
"failed to get Zaha" He has very publicly (AGM) refuted the rumours of that deal never being an option. Where's the failure?

Keane was great 1st season. Admittedly he's dropped off that level but he's far from responsibile for our damp season. England CB who is a great back up. Like I say he's not upto his own level. But again he's hardly the reason for some of our woes.

"failed to get cb" yes it's true. Our ability to get Zouma from his parent club who themselves had a transfer ban and an injury at CB was all Brands fault.
And how dare he not settle for another sticking plaster in that position.

Brands has been in the job 4 windows? Last winter we did nothing? This winter is still open. So he's done his work really in 2 windows. And considering how much of a mess we have been in, I think he has done well. Still a long way to go though. Not sure dragging Brands through the gutter is the way or what he deserves.

From what his past and some informed EDs have stated, I think it sounds lucky he hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram and quit.

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{Ed002's Note - Everton failed to get Zouma as they went about the entire thing in an amateurish way when they made the approach to Chelsea in the summer.}

16 Jan 2020 11:46:40
Steve Walsh signed Michael Keane not Brands zaha was never signing for us as we can't spend 70-80 mill on 1 player and by refusing to spend that much brands did his job Iwobi yes the jury is still out but brands has a massive job on his hands shifting unwanted players first.

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16 Jan 2020 12:59:40
Bit hit and miss really, but i'm very happy we got Digne and Gomes, Gbamin was by all accounts a coup but time will tell after injury. Richarlison is looking to be great business too. A great fee received for Gueye, and plenty of work being done moving players out. I'm happy with how Brands is doing personally and accept it is a long term project overall.

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16 Jan 2020 15:36:53
Good point about Keane brankdock.

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16 Jan 2020 15:37:24
Absolutely Worcester.

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16 Jan 2020 16:46:35
He’s right those figures are important because as he says we have a dozen or so player taking up big chunk of salaries not to mention the transfer fees that we will take a loss on if you look at what Brands has done is bought players that won’t loose money on even if players like Ewobi does not be a success chances are we will still get money back.

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15 Jan 2020 15:20:16
west ham away this weekend should be interesting match in my opinion if we can nick 3 points at the london stadium i will be a very happy bluenose over the weekend i like c. a tactics and also his subs aswell seeing the matches out i would be happy if he can get a defender and maybe cm but let's get rid of players who aren't playing first like niassi martina walcott scniderlen more positive now then silvas time in charge c. o. y. b.

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15 Jan 2020 17:22:40
With Tosun out on loan and Niasse looking to be shipped out, we either have a striker lined up, or Anthony Gordon will get his chance to stake a claim in the first team.

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15 Jan 2020 17:27:06
I still think Walcott will have a part to play due to our lack of RMs. But the others can leave yeah.

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15 Jan 2020 17:58:52
He’s ok and your right let’s get rid of the ones who are not involved first Walcott will be a good squad player to have over next 2 seasons from bench.

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15 Jan 2020 18:11:42
I was looking at the table earlier and chatting to a mate, if we win our next two game we will be on 34 points, currently that's 5th place occupies by Utd, other results go our way then we could be right in the mix for 6th, now if Chelsea have some more bad games then that will open up 4th spot, it’s mad how the league is going this season, everything to play for.

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15 Jan 2020 18:45:24
On the flip side if we loose a couple of games, and results go against us we could be hovering over the relegation zone .
I went Saturday and I wasn't overly impressed if I'm honest, I think Brighton were poor and one bit of class got us the 3 points .
Bill Kenwright took time to have a photo with the kids though which made their day .
Midfield is lacking bite for me, and idrissa gueyes interceptions .

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15 Jan 2020 18:57:31
Yes slate there is that but our current league form is good so I’m optimistic, the game wasn’t great last weekend but we won I’m sure the more time Carlo has working on his tactics with the team the better we will be 👍.

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15 Jan 2020 21:39:07
I respect your optimism Si, There is a chance to get a few points under our belt in the next few games . I’ve no doubt Carlo will want to weed out the crap in the summer and bring in some midfield magic .
I’d be happy to see a slow but positive rebuild program as opposed to knee jerk impulse buys .

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16 Jan 2020 13:38:04
The one shining light is. However bad our midfield is just watch what rubbish West Ham roll out on Saturday.
If the game goes as it should we will get at least a point.
A win would put us 9 clear of them and that is any fear of relegation gone and a chance to really look at the top 6.

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17 Jan 2020 15:10:27
I was not talking about Michael Keane. I was talk king about forward kean,

- he looks awful. If Naisse was playing like that he would be panned.

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15 Jan 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th January 2019

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