Everton Banter Archive December 16 2016

16 Dec 2016 20:36:34
Question on my mind, more so since Bolasies injury, do clubs have insurance against long term injuries such as he suffered . they must do?!

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

17 Dec 2016 10:17:33
Does the insurance only cover their wages or does it cover anything else?

{Ed002's Note - What do you mean by "anything else"?}

17 Dec 2016 15:04:18
Ed002: could "anything else" be insurance to cover the cost of medical treatment - such as diagnosis, consultation and surgery by experts outside the club? I'd imagine that the club's own in-house medical and physiotherapist staff would handle the longer-term rehabilitation once the immediate post-surgery recovery is complete.

{Ed002's Note - No, it would not cover any such things.}

17 Dec 2016 15:11:18
Hey Ed, guess my question is more if clubs have insurance for player injuries what does that insurance cover?

{Ed002's Note - Wages.}

17 Dec 2016 21:07:28
Ed002: fair enough, although I'm a little surprised that clubs don't have private medical insurance for their players.

{Ed002's Note - The clubs have no need - if they are paying £30k or £40k a week for a player the big issue is the wages - not someone to xray a toe that is feeling a little tender.}

17 Dec 2016 21:09:40
Thanks Ed.

16 Dec 2016 15:03:55
Ed025,

Tony Bellow to David Haye.

"I'm going to put you and that pathetic haircut to sleep".

Love it 😄.

16 Dec 2016 20:39:18
Sign him up for Monday should be an interesting addition in midfield.

{Ed025's Note - hes actually not a bad player jonno, played CF and scored quite a lot of goals, but now hes a bit shy and meek mate.. :)

16 Dec 2016 11:02:27
I understand the thinking behind the Tom Davies shouts and I would love him to get some game time but let's just take a step back here the kid is 18 years old and look how our fans treat Ross Barkley who in my book gets treated very unfairly by a lot of blues.

now imagine if Davies was getting the same abuse what would that do to his confidence? it could destroy him now until our fans start backing our young players. I wouldn't want him starting games because well most of our fans would crucify him after a few bad passes.

16 Dec 2016 11:44:35
Whatever happens to Tom Davies and other young players, it's inevitable that some fans will approve, others will disapprove, and many will chop and change their opinions depending on outcomes. Like most fans, I too have an opinion - and I also thoroughly enjoy the banter with fans that have other points of view - but I generally come to the conclusion that things will work themselves out and talent and hard work will usually earn opportunity and success for players.

16 Dec 2016 13:10:43
He is getting the odd run out to help the step up from the U23 but when RK thinks he's ready to progress its more likely he will go out on loan for more game time.
if you look at what level of expectation we have to succeed at this club it is more likely the first team will be bolstered by more experienced and better players in January.

16 Dec 2016 13:40:13
Well this is a banter site so also will give my opinion. Davies has shown he is much better than the existing midfielders so regardless of age he should be playing. I have watched the Arsenal game three times now and the big difference between that game and the previous eight or so is that Baines and Coleman were constantly attacking and that is one reason why we won the game. The fact that Barry was not playing is significant to me, he is just too slow these days. In todays game you need players who are fast, who can move from attack and cover in defense. The team that played against Arsenal managed to do that reasonably well. Hopefully the team will remain the same against Liverpool with Holgate replacing Jags (who is suspended) for the reason I have just stated.

16 Dec 2016 19:43:48
For me mike the difference was not the full backs but the fact our players pressed the ball higher up the pitch. This allowed the full backs to press further up also.

Davies is too young to have a run in the team. So too Holgate. Work them in over time. Not over work them.

16 Dec 2016 20:26:06
Hi John, The point I was making was when the full-backs attacked other players had the pace to defend when required. In the recent past we just have not done that so Coleman and Baines have been stuck in a defensive position most of the game. If you are good enough you can play as Rooney showed. I am not suggesting they play every game but for goodness sake Davies has to be a better option than Cleverley.

17 Dec 2016 07:51:13
I wouldn't argue on the Cleverly suggestion at all. I think there is a fear though that playing these young players at the moment can put huge stress on them especially from our crowd who haven't been the most supportive of late.

I'm sure they will get their chance over the next couple of seasons and hopefully we will be in a better mood. :)

{Ed025's Note - its really hard for youngsters to break through john, managers want the finished article without taking chances that may make them look foolish and put their credentials at risk, thats why loaning them is a very popular solution as it takes the risk out of things and if they do well they can be recalled and everything in the garden is rosy mate..

16 Dec 2016 10:10:54
Hey

. Baines Barry n Holgate all signed contract extensions. SSN

Mart.

16 Dec 2016 06:37:49
It's not so much that Barkley (or Lukaku or whoever) might actually leave Everton - there seem to be as many fans who want them kept as there are those fans who would readily see them gone - but rather the fatalistic feeling that it would be another example of our assets being "picked off" by clubs who are challenging for Europe and trophies while we flounder in mediocrity.

16 Dec 2016 08:26:54
Cowpat, I always laugh when people talk about "getting rid" of someone in football clubs. It should ALWAYS be that you are looking to bring in better. and until you have brought in better, what is the point of getting rid? For the money? We already have money so if we get rid of anyone we will have more money. That will get us climbing the table then. I know you were only repeating what others have said and so were posing their questions, but what do you think mate. because I would be looking to strengthen our squad before "getting rid" of anyone who makes first team appearances. I suppose someonelike Gibson or Niasse or McGeady could be got rid of. but even they should have replacements lined up before action is taken.

16 Dec 2016 11:12:04
Degsypulford: the point I was getting at was those fans who have wanted rid iof Barkley, but probably took great umbrage when Tottenham's alleged interest (personified by Levy) was reported. As to who goes and who arrives, I agree that improving the squad is the aim and thereby ensuring that performances and results become consistently better.

16 Dec 2016 21:11:01
Yeah Cowpat mate I know and respect your views. You put sme great questioning posts on here. but I do get peeved when someone says we should get rid of "a" or "b" is crap. you and I both know things are never as straight forward as that.

16 Dec 2016 06:18:12
Several posters are wishing for us to sign young Ademola Lookman. He's repiutedly a very good prospect, BUT how many of you have actually seen him play?

16 Dec 2016 06:08:15
The idea that Tottenham - or any other club - only become interested in a player if Everton are reportedly interested seems ludicrous to me. Clubs will be tracking lots of players as part of their scouting and recruitment activities. Competition for good players when they become available is to be expected. We Evertonians are paranoid about this subject!

16 Dec 2016 07:30:45
With good reason sid with the likes of wenger am levy willing to come in at the last minute and scupper us.

16 Dec 2016 11:19:42
Efcfanatic: the fact that there are media stories about other clubs appearing to come in late does not mean that those clubs haven't been scouting the player for as long as (if not longer than) Everton. I repeat: the idea that other clubs deliberately scupper us is ludicrous imho - there is always competition for good players when they're available - it's just which offer is the most attractive to all parties.