Everton Banter Archive June 16 2013

 

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16 Jun 2013 23:01:44
Chris LNG scores for England u20s after coming on in his first match

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Is the under 20 world cup being shown on any tv channels, don't think its on tv, thought maybe euro sport

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Yes it's on euro sport starting this Friday

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16 Jun 2013 21:13:49
Does anyone know if the pre season tournament in america is on tv

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Not british tv, will be able to stream it on various websites

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I have been looking and can't seem to see anything. Hopefully the club will do a similar to last year and have a package to buy on evertontv.

MAC

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Its on eurosport i'm sure

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Its not being shown on eurosport

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16 Jun 2013 20:59:04
I think Martinez should put in a sneaky bid in for Dieumerci Mbokani

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Sneaky

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16 Jun 2013 21:58:18
How can Wigan expect 20m for McCarthy when Chelsea got Schurle for less, Whelan is pulling our leg I think.
RickTee

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Reality Ricktee is that British players come with inflated prices. Henderson, Carroll etc.

Anyway, McCarthy is destined to play for a big club, believe me he could be a real top player.

(Wigan Fan)

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16 Jun 2013 18:59:24
Hi everyone just posted a picture of next seasons home shirts (short and long sleeve) on Everton sightings page.

Sadly picture looks genuine as they appear to be hanging in our dressing room.

Might have been passable without THAT badge. What do you'se all think?

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So far I'm really not impressed with what Nike have supplied us with. I wasn't overly keen on last years, this is just gash, looks like a bad mid 90's rugby shirt.

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Look photoshopped tbh

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One word :- VILE

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Agreed Paul, a little better than the current one. But with that excuse for a crest on it, my money is staying firmly in my pocket.

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Gees, get over the dam crest will you. There was logic behind the change. In this day it's about margins, and our previous outdated crest could not be easily reproduced digitally to be shown on TV when we play and because there were so many different parts to it, it cost a lot more to put it on all our shirts and other merchandise. Stop living in the 1980s, join us in the real world, support the team, buy the dam kit.

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If this is indeed our new home kit, it is possibly the worst since the One-to-One pale blue effort of the Johnson era. Hoops on the sleeves? (Wavertree Blue)

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I quite like the badge now

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16 Jun 2013 18:06:48
Tim Howard £3m
Tony Hibbert £1m
Leighton Baines £20m
John Heitinga £3m
Phil Jagielka £18m
Shane Duffy £3m
John Stones £3m
Seamus Coleman £10m
Sylvain Distin £2m
Bryan Oviedo £3.5m
Darron Gibson £10m
Marouane Fellaini £23m (real valuation £30m)
Leon Osman £3m
Steven Pienaar £3.5m
Ross Barkley £15m
Apostolos Vellios £3m
Victor Anichebe £5m
Steven Naismith £2m
Nikica Jelavic £8m
Kevin Mirallas £15m

That is what I value our squad would be interesting to see what people think and what they value each player.

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Distin is worth more IMO.

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Vastly overpriced for Coleman Gibson and Barkley all others seem reasonable though

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Baines 20 mil?. add another 10 at least. (Wavertree Blue)

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More or less spot on

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To say you have over valued our squad is an understatement. I mean and 18m for Jags? He's 30 for Christ sake, and Vic 5m anyone offered that would need their head examining. Can't be bothred to go through the rest as everyone apart from Felli, Baines and Mirrallas are so ridiculously over valued i'd be here all night.

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Tim Howard £3m
Tony Hibbert £1m
Leighton Baines £20m
John Heitinga £3m
Phil Jagielka £10m
Shane Duffy £2m
John Stones £3m
Seamus Coleman £4.5m
Sylvain Distin £2m
Bryan Oviedo £2.5m
Darron Gibson £6m
Marouane Fellaini £23m
Leon Osman £2.5m
Steven Pienaar £3.5m
Ross Barkley £10m
Apostolos Vellios £2m
Victor Anichebe £3m
Steven Naismith £250k
Nikica Jelavic £3m
Kevin Mirallas £15m

Mike

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16 Jun 2013 19:42:57
pretty fair analysis of the squad individual values. some players over valued if anything by skightest, but I suppose that's bias being an Evertonian anyway! what was the purpose of this btw CraigHuytonBlue

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Distin and jags less because of age, Barkley less aswell I've not soon him do anything to show his potential

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Mike, I think you have it more realistic though you've probably over-valued Naismith slightly. I'd say he's worth a twix and a packet of monster munch at most.

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And the point of this is what exactly?

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Just to show everyone has different opinions and be a different post

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Coleman 4.5million, I don't think so, may be 14.5million, best attacking right back in the league

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16 Jun 2013 17:38:30
Ed, just to clarify has the transfer window opened? A lot of deals are being done and processed, Man City and Liverpool have already signed players. {Ed025's Note - it opens officially on july 1st mike...but deals can be agreed before then mate..

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Cheers ed, was just curious that's all. {Ed025's Note - thats fine mate..

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16 Jun 2013 17:21:42
Fer wants a move and keeps trying to get us to sign him! please Martinez by the end of the week

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16 Jun 2013 15:34:39
With Martinez apparently commited to youth who in the academy/first team fringes do you think will get a proper go next year I think Duffy Barkley Kennedy and vellios are most likely but that might change on who we sign.

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16 Jun 2013 15:19:40
Hi ed,

Are we close to any signings or is all papertalk. U must know something

Baz {Ed025's Note - wheels are in motion baz..

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16 Jun 2013 14:57:50
Wonder who me are 1st signing got the list down to 4 now

Mcmanaman
McCathy
Fer
Alcaraz

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Try:
Alcaraz
McGeady

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16 Jun 2013 14:05:28
On a scale of 1-10 how likely are these players, Ed?
Alcaraz
McCarthy
Maloney
Mcmanaman
Honda
Fer {Ed025's Note - 7, 5, 5, 4, 6

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You forgot to rate fer ed lol {Ed025's Note - i thought it was you posting leroy.. :)..........6

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16 Jun 2013 13:34:56
Wigan reportedly want 20 mil for McCarthy that rules us out then

Andy

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And we want 15m for Naismith doesn't mean it's going to happen though

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At that price it should rule everyone out. If Dementia Dave thinks he will even get half of that then he is deluded.

Mike

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At his age, you would think that stupid old fart would have stopped smoking that s***. Mr whelan should go and av a lie down in a nice dark room, he might then reconect with reality.

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I wouldn't pay £5m for him. Totally overrated. Hmmm, Leroy Fer for around 12m, or this chump for 20m. Hope he enjoys playing in the championship.

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Come on be fair to Dave he did break his leg in the FA Cup final ya know, not that many people do

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16 Jun 2013 13:18:06
I know most people saying we need new strikers but I think someone like defoe or bent would do well let's not forget about jelavic people let's give him a chance under martinez. I think he will get double figures under martinez and the way he does attacking football. ryamfromleic

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I fancy jely to come good under Martinez can't get any worse anyway
Coyb

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Jelly is finished mate I'm afraid. Fluke first 6 months. He has no pace, can't dribble, can't hold it up and unless it's first time, he can't hit a barn door. Total dud. Plus I hear his attitude stinks and he loves to sulk. Ship him out ASAP and let's get some quality in.

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17 Jun 2013 01:21:59
Give him one more year at least and who told you he sulks? Is this another 'my dad sisters aunts dentists cats lawyers mum has inside information' from what I've seen he wants to try and works hard I respect for that now look at his goal vs southampton that wasn't first time or his goal vs liverpool it was first time but he still had to place it or his goal vs spurs that is not a lucky first time goal it was instinct. He can't dribble he has no pace ahem negredo is slower and has awful close control yes he has a powerful shot but jelavic seems calm on both feet and I just think all round one more year is fair oh an if jela can't dribble and all that look at pappis cisse he has pace powerful shot etc. But jela still scored more goals or at least near the same amount of goals as him and jela was on the bench a lot of the time near the end. One year is all he needs if he takes the chance then whuppy doo if he fluffs it then he will go in the long list of strikers we have messed up

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To be fair to Jelly, if anything he was trying too hard for most of last year meaning he ended up out of position or was knackered when chances fell to him. (admittedly for the last month of the season his confidence was and he did look fed up) personally I'd give him til January as whilst he is know where near as good as he first looked, I don't think he actually as bad as he looked last season. He was only £5million remember which for a striker is nothing.

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16 Jun 2013 12:22:00
Why do I have a funny feeling we will sign Rooney
this summer think I'm losing the plot haha just say
we did I wonder how many fans would welcome him with open arms?

Nessie {Ed025's Note - i would nessie, but theres no chance..

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16 Jun 2013 12:17:02
Scott Parker anyone?

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No way, good for west ham or now Sunderland, but not top 6 quality anymore

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16 Jun 2013 14:25:57
No in the exact same mould as james milner, parker cannot do anything except get the ball back only to lose it again he is awful so no thank you

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16 Jun 2013 11:44:53
Ed when you say you expect transfer news next week do you mean you will know more about our targets or that we will sign someone? {Ed025's Note - i meant know, but you never know..

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16 Jun 2013 11:20:45
I vote we sign the entire Norwegian u21 squad
As we have been linked with most of then all ready.
COYB

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We've only been linked with one!

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16 Jun 2013 10:35:03
20 mil for McCarthy are wigan having a laugh?

I wouldn't pay 3 for him. Osman has been twice the player his been

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Don't think soo he ound have to drop the prize because mcCathy. Will ask to eave anyway more like 5 m

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16 Jun 2013 11:56:24
After novemeber osman was poor and mccarthy is better at EVERYTHING passing, defending, works harder, faster, stronger physically, better with weaker foot etc. I wouldn't pay 20m for him but 3m would be bargain of the century and he would improve us

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Are you having a laugh? He's 100 times better than Osman, Jesus Christ lad.

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I'd take a chance on McCarthy, at 5mill, but if the wigan chairman has got his stupid head on, and looking for 15-20m then we should give the lad his train fare to london and wish him luck.

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5-10m would be good can do everything you want in a cm and and a awesome passer

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He's not 100 times better than Osman lol. some people. I'd also have Leon on the team sheet before McCarthy, he's more inventive and for me a better player

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I like McCarthy, think he would be a decent addition to the side, but for his price, and given there are about 4-5 clubs in the Prem League alone (including Spurs and Arsenal) interested or monitoring the situation, I think there is better value elsewhere in the market. Personally, would rather stay far away from the Premier League as possible, as the extra money will cause a huge inflation in prices.

For me, we need to tap into La Liga and Eredivisie, a load of hidden gem in those leagues and for bargains as well. Hope that is where Martinez is looking.

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Yes he is 100 times better, it looks like you haven't watched McCarthy very often, Osman is poor.

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McCarthy is a lot better than Osman IMO, Leon is past it now should just come off the bench you wouldn't see him start for any team in the top 7.

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16 Jun 2013 15:47:32
Osman an inventive player? What? Does a couple of nice skills every season and that makes him inventive? Mccarthy also has bite about him whereas osman is scared to get tackled hence why chelsea, tottenham, Manchester United are after mccarthy whereas the only team after osman in recent years was fulham

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McCarthy is out of Evertons league in terms of fee and ability.

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Much better options out there than this guy for that money. Let him move to a lesser club like Liverpool before making the big step up to us.

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17 Jun 2013 01:28:58
He is out of our league? Yeah too good for us but baines, fellaini etc. Are not? Yeah that neville southall wasn't that good he couldn't catch a cold or that peter reid yeah awful player or what about that dixie dean? Kevin doyle had a better goal to game ratio then him. You are a cluelss fool if mccarthy is too good ability wise for us, but not for tottenham? How many of their players would get in our team? Lloris, bale maybe an on form adebayor or possibly dembele. That is all plus would he get a game for tottenham? Yeah he will go right in ahead of:
Huddlestone
Parker
Bale
Dembele
Sigurdson
Carroll
Cabaellos
Dempsey
Holtby
Kane
Sandro
Yep tottenham need him

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16 Jun 2013 10:26:09
Is old Davy wheelin going doolally he wants 20 million for mcarthy crazy crazy man

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Well, it is silly season. Be prepared for plenty of:-
'A source close to the player/club believes. '
'The player is thought to be keen on a move to. according to a club insider'
'Everton are thought to be considering a move for. '
Etc

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16 Jun 2013 10:22:12
7 mill for odil akhmedov defenzive mideilder

1878 blue {Ed002's Note -

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Never heard of him before.

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16 Jun 2013 04:55:33
Anyone know how George green is coming along in academy?

Is he close to doing a Rooney yet? {Ed025's Note - hes doing very well, but its a bit early for him yet..

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Doing a Rooney? You mean pissing off at the first opportunity? I doubt Green is close to doing that. If we ever see him with a 'Once a Blue' t-shirt on, then we should be worried. Until then just let him develop and hopefully he will get a chance.

Mike

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I meant breaking into first team at early age and being England's best player not long after.

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15 Jun 2013 17:08:52
Any news off any of the eds to put a smile on our faces regarding transfer targets

Thanks
Essy {Ed025's Note - i expect some news this coming week essy..

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15 Jun 2013 12:12:17
Ed. I don't know about anyone else but it seems a lot of teams are already strengthening their teams and we are being left sat on the fence again. Cheer me up and say that you know of some activity on the transfer front. {Ed025's Note - i wish i could tony...but i expect things to move this week mate..

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Are you serious? The transfer window isn't open yet and Martinez isn't actually classed as the manager until the 1st of July!

TC

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16 Jun 2013 11:54:06
Window is open that's why city signed fernandinho and navas and moyes doesn't start until july the 1st but he still bought varela

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No such thing as a window. Deals are done all the time. Windows just to keep fans and Sky happy.

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15 Jun 2013 10:33:27
Any chance of us signing begovic ed? {Ed025's Note - i think he would want first team football mate..

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You don't think Howard is a better keeper than Begovic do you ed?

If we did somehow buy Begovic, he would be the first choice keeper, he is much better than Howard IMO.

Mike {Ed025's Note - i think howard is better mike, the only reason he has looked good this season, is because the stoke defence is so poor mate,

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16 Jun 2013 02:10:16
So it seems that Mourhino knew months ago about Fergie's retirement. I find this believable but it also means that Moyes probably knew about it too meaning he just pmessed us and Bill about for months. Loyalty and honest isn't a 2 way street.

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I suspect that Fergie had plans all the while for Moyes to take over. But I also think that for some unknown reason Fergie brought the date forward. I think he originally had plans for another season at Utd. Maybe Moyes being out of contract now forced the situation?
Degsypulford

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16 Jun 2013 00:25:10
I like you want to see a few faces come in I think we need 3 new signings providing we don't sell baines or felleni whilst a goalkeeper to provide competition and back up for Howard also Jonny to go should bring in a new centre back also a strong central midfield is needed but we must prioritise a new striker we should of finished higher than we did last season although we had a good couple of years our downfall was scoring goals that's a fact

Gk- the Great Dane son cheap and is a good goalkeeper with potential 2-4 million

Cb- I would like to see us try and snap Micah Richards big talent know he has been more of a right back but with the right coaching I believe he could be a world class defender
Fast, strong and still young 5-7m think we could get him cheaper if they are trimming squad

Cm- now do we need a holding player like Gibson consider he has never had full season free of injuries or a box 2 box personally I want youth to be given a chance barkley and lundstram is a pass master so maybe he could fill in for Gibson don't be surprised with a couple of midfielders coming in fer is one choice but think we need to pay 10million, Macarthy is a player Martinez thinks highly of and so does his national team boss and he knows a good player when he sees one I watched him for Ireland and I have to say he ran the midfield huge potential the new Roy keane in my eyes but wigan won't part on the cheap don't be suprised if an offer of 10 million is what's needed to get him

Striker- ok toughest one of all we need a a goalscorer that can get us 20+ league goals if we want champ league and that costs money I hear a lot about the need to bring the squad age down but look at this tell me a striker in Europes top leagues that hits 20 league goals under 27 that is not going to fetch 15+ million negrado keeps popping up get real 20 million for him, get real Defoe will do me I know he is getting older but he is a finisher always scores goals and would get lots of chances could be a steel if he is not seen as 1st choice so 5-8million

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Don't think we'll get Defoe tbh probably go for a younger model. We could be in for Alcaraz, McGeady and Cornelius I reckon.

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Gk. Mignolet 8m.
Cb. Douglas free
Cm. Diame 3.5m.
St. Aubameyang 10m.
W. Tadic 7m.

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We are already 3 players down and could lose another 3. We need at least 6

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GK:Joel Robels 2-4m
CB:Douglas free
CM:Diame 3.5m
LW:Tadic 7-8m
ST:Aubemyang 10m

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Mgeady he is crap no end product let's not waste money on a position we don't need

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