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16 May 2013 23:36:14
Disapointed about some of the names in the frame, Martinez= over hyped, not done a lot in 4 years at Wigan, Poyet and others with no prem experience feel we are looking for cheap option we have come a long way over the last few years be a pity if we don't try to continue.
bluej
It is BK, he will go for the easiest and cheapest option
16 May 2013 21:59:28
Eds, I don't know if I can post this on here but there's a poll going on at toffeeweb and there's talk of the results getting passed on to BK and/or the club. The more people that get involved, the better as it would be a more accurate reflection of the fan-base. Thanks
Asif BK or the club would take notice to an internet forum poll
I agree. BUT he did say he would listen to the fans and seeing as it should be over 10,000 votes it MAY count for something. If they don't send it in then BK can't say they weren't aware of who the fans wanted. Well, technically he can but what harm can it do to send it in.
16 May 2013 22:10:12
Here's a scenario, what if nobody outside the club wants the job? Bill needs to act now or we will end up. With Stubbs, Ferguson etc. great players for the club, but could not see them attracting the players we need.
16 May 2013 21:49:26
Bk is actually thinking outside Britain and his short list is
Pereira (Porto)
Farve (m'gladbach)
Girard (Montpellier)
Who do you want? Pereira is leading the race as he's free
Any of those 3 will do, only chance of us going forward, any british manager/someone inside the club will send us south
So is Girard, his contract expires next month and he wants to try the PL.
Ive a feeling Girard might also be free (out of contract). Either way Pereira or Girard I'd be happy with. I've been a massive advocate for Pereira, (TEAM PEREIRA) I really like the idea and think he would suit us. I wouldn't however lose any sleep if we suddenly announce Girard as our next manager. For me it would still show a level of ambition from the club that's far better than some of the other names in the frame!
BLUE DAZZLE
16 May 2013 22:30:24
Poyet, eh? Oooh, I'm excited. A manager whose greatest achievement is to be knocked out of the championship play offs by an Ian Holloway team. Stop it now.
16 May 2013 21:42:44
ed have you heard anything of jelavic being linked with a move to sevilla. seemingly graham hunter been saying sevilla very interested in taking the croatian striker to ramon sanchez pizjuan in the summer. I hope it is not true okay he has not had the best of season's but he is still a top striker and the everton fan's love him. always singing his name even when he not playing that well. {Ed007's Note - His agent has been hawking him around Europe for months now. I warned Everton fans on the day he signed, he would stay for 18 months/2 years and then want out. His attitude is stinking and always has been. Look at his career stats, he gets itchy feet after a while and drifts in and out of the team because he hardly tries a leg. He refused to play for Rapid Vienna to get a move to Rangers and then done the exact same with them, went on strike and refused to play. And he is VERY far from a top striker, he has only scored over 20 goals in one season in his entire career. Everton will be well rid of him, he is a mediocre player with illusions of grandeur, let someone else deal with him.
Naismith deserves a chance to prove himself over Jelavic, Naismith is a far better player and I'm sure if he finds any kind of form Everton fans will love him, he would run through a wall for his team-mates.}
You ok Ed? Naismith better than Jelavic? Wow I really have heard it all now.
BitterBlue {Ed007's Note - Honestly mate, he was Rangers best player for years, even when Jelavic was there. I really don't know what has went wrong with him.}
Ed 07. interesting point you made about Naismith. I kind of feel cheated by him at the moment. has nt really been given a fair crack and I don't know where he fits into our team just now. but I agree gives 100%just very little substance to date. jlaff {Ed007's Note - I don't watch much of Everton so not sure where he has been playing but playing him just off the front/dropping deep he can cause problems for other teams. At the time he was the only Rangers player I would have 'liked' to see at Celtic.}
A lad I went uni with was a die hard rangers fan and has always said naisy is a far better player than jela and doesn't know what has been up with him this season
I agree with jelavic i'd sell him in a heartbeat, the rumour I heard he was seen out a lot partying and I wouldn't discount that, he's sluggish at best at the moment and he's completely missed the ball on a number of occasions in front of goal, if his heads gone then let him go I say and buy, someone better to replace him
on the other hand naismiith is awful ed, he comes on and looks petrified, he tries to hide in the matchs he's started and was negative going foward. at times he looks like he thinks he's not good and it shows, he has been mostly out wide right but still very disappointing
Ed it sound like you have a personal vendetta against jela, did he refuse you an autograph or somthing? {Ed007's Note - I'm a bit long in the tooth to be asking players for their autographs!!}
Ed007 I remember you saying this when we got both jelavic and Naismith, it's very hard to believe Naismith is a better player but I suppose you must have seen something special because you have certainly stuck to your guns. let's just hope next season we see both at full potential.
SydneyBlue {Ed007's Note - It's a strange one Sydney, it really is. Anyone who watches Scottish football would tell you the same thing.}
Sevilla are interested you say? I believe they have a striker themselves who we would quite like and we were ourselves linked to in January
Wouldn't mind seeing Jelavic and a couple mil in exchange for Negredo. Think Negredo is a much better striker than Jelavic personally and fits our style of play better than Jelavic
Negredo+cash for jelavic would be awesome although I'd like to see jela get another season. About Naismith lots of Celtic fans in my family and they all say Naismith is 10x the player of jela but not wide right
16 May 2013 21:00:42
alan stubbs odds in paddy powers slashed 3/1 please no. irish blue
Oh god favourites now are Stubbs, Neville and Poyet
Stubbs is far from my first choice, but should he be appointed, I will give him my full backing and you never know he may be a good manager! COYB
I honestly don't think we will give no1 spot to some one within. we'd have done it already by now surely. why would be wait?jlaff
Big Stubbs is the ideal candidate for you. It's a job for managers stepping up from lower league or cutting they're teeth.
16 May 2013 19:49:08
Hopefully as soon as Bill decides our future lies with Pereira!
16 May 2013 19:47:54
My gut feeling is I don't think we will be for Martinez as I think something would of happened by now, especially since wigans relegation. Thank goodness for that too!! The man is simply not good enough for everton unless we want to be entertaining the wrong end of the table season in season out.
It's a simple choice for me now between pereira, laudrup, Benitez & di-Matteo, these are all quality men with an ability to win things & take us to the next level. I would like to say that since my last post, I am favouring a move more for 'perreira' - after reading about him I think he could be a perfect fit for everton with positives including no compensation, brilliant tactically, mean defensively, good at developing younger players & has won titles & cups & unbeaten in the portugese league for whole of the current season - are you listening bill kenright? get this man & do the right & proper thing for everton fc!!
What a fickle bunch you lot are, Martinez was best thing since sliced bread last week, Di mateo possibly, but no chance with pereira & laudrop because face facts your not big enough club, why would laudrup leave to join Everton, what benefit will he gain?
Managing one of the worlds great football clubs!
16 May 2013 19:20:23
just looking at the manger posts and have to say I agree with the periera camp, think he would be a great choice, martinez-his record does not stand up to scrutiny as much as I like the guy. poyet or makay not yet convinced. lennon not yet ready for the premeir league, benitez needs money and has said in the past that he could never manage everton or man utd, thankfully. there have been lots of other names linked most former players or members of the current coaching staff of these I believe only bilic is a true contender. but if you want a name from left field with premier league and international experience who was one of the greatest players of a generation, how about glen hoddle. grbefc
16 May 2013 19:04:37
I reckon we should steal mcmanaman and mcarthy from wigan, atsu from porto, lescott, fer then one or two strikers, on proven and one upcoming. Also appoint vitor pereira as new boss. COYB
Serious question for you. Do you think Moyes should 'steal' Fellaini, Baines, Mirallas, Jags? Would you be happy with that?
If it was me then these would be assurances that I would look for as incoming manager. I would like to know that I was keeping at least 3 of those names although preferably all of them! Fellaini would be the only one I would contemplate and that would be for a huge transfer fee. More like 30 million rather than the 23 his contract is supposed to state. so that we could use the money to strengthen the squad. jlaff
16 May 2013 18:41:04
When do blue's think a manager will be appointed?. Serious question because I don't want everton to dither as we have been known to.
16 May 2013 19:33:58
I think a couple of days after the season finishes mate, probably next Tuesday
Degsy
Eddie Howe
I think we will appoint from within, Stubbs, Weir, Ferguson or Neville. Hope not though.
Sorry misread the question I think we will have a new manager in place well into June tbh like Ed said a couple of weeks ago it won't be before the end of May.
End of the month, beginning of June. Hopefully it gets done sooner rather than later, like Sunday night-Monday morning but we know BK he'll want to hold out as long as possible to avoid paying any unnecessary wages.
16 May 2013 17:43:21
I see a lot of people on hear mentioning all our potential signings and all that, with people saying we should sell Fellaini.
My question is simply; do you guys want to sell Fellaini because of the injection of funds we would get for him or is it because people have some sort of grudge against him? (ie; vs Wigan)
Personally, I would love to keep him as I still think he's a class player and I would hope that investment could come in another form, as I wouldn't like to see Fellaini go.
16 May 2013 17:31:26
in what way is martinez the stand out target. RELEGATION MANGER!
TEAM PERIERA!!!!!!!
Yep, because every team relegated are relegated because of their manager, no one else's fault.
However I agree with Pereira. Him over Martinez for me, but I wouldn't mind Martinez if he came. Everyone needs a chance.
Manger? Are we getting Jesus, the Benfica manager?
Yeah!. I can just see the posters round the ground. " IN JESUS WE TRUST". naaah.
I heard he's great on crosses
Can see Pienaar's Tshirt now. "God is great" on the front, "But Jesus is Gaffer" on the back! lol.
BLUE DAZZLE
16 May 2013 16:24:43
Jorge Jesus (Benfica manager) says he wants to move to England and try management here. With Chelsea getting Mourinho (supposedly) and Man City getting Pellegrini (supposedly), could this be our chance to get a top manager? I hope so.
rodstagraam
Is he the nutter who looks like Peter Stringfellow or Barry Venison's dad?
If he gets the job I hope he doesn't bring Benfica's 100 year curse with him.
Domo
16 May 2013 15:40:53
what has happened to daylon classan?
Well he was on trial when moyes knew he was leaving
Whatever he did I hope he got off with it then.
16 May 2013 15:18:45
hi eds De boer the number 1 choice for me has worked with a lot of young kids at Ajax. Also lost a lot of his top players still up there every year.
Heitinga and pienaar know him well but I can't see him leaving ajax tbh
16 May 2013 14:41:12
`I think our triumph is a real shot in the arm for French football. It just goes to show that everyone can beat everyone and that money isn't the be-all and end-all. We're a club of mates, a club that brings young players through and gives them a chance. At the end of the day, it's worked out well for us. We played some great football, with a well-balanced team and I'm overwhelmed. "
Rene Girard after winning the league.
What`s not to like!
WHATS OUR NAME!
That was last season!
And? So what if it was last season, the man produced a team to win a title.
How many of the clowns that have been linked to us can manage that?
Lennon, ah poor mans league.
Mackay, second tier league.
Martinez, a cup win is hardly a comparison.
Girard gets my vote!
16 May 2013 14:40:33
I was just wondering about our next manager, a lot of rumours going around that Blue Bill wants someone in by next weekend. has anyone else heard this?
Mark
16 May 2013 13:09:31
Has our vacancy ever been put to rafa at any of his press conferances?
No because he's not wanted!
He's better than anyone else mentioned so far. Every player that's come to us from Liverpool has been good. Sheedy, Harper, Ablett, Beardsley and Johnny Morrissey. What's the problem?
Don't forget a fair few from the darkside were clamoring for Moyes to be their manager after 'woy of the wedsite' got the bullet. I know he's tainted but if he gets results it could be worth it.
Considering we have had a man who has just had his side religated as the most likley, I would take the swop any day, just don't know if he would consider the job.
16 May 2013 13:02:15
Does anyone know if finishing in 6th place gets us in the Europa League next season, after Chelsea won the cup last night. I have been living under a rock for the last 2 months and have heard nothing to tell me if this is the case or not. Thanks.
Mike
16 May 2013 15:33:25
u ok Mike, not like you to be humorous kidder
It would Mike, but only if the FA make Chelsea play with daffodils poking out of their bums, Man United have to wear full make-up and blow kisses to the opposition during the warm up and Arsenal have to change their kit and play in basque and suspenders. or have I missed something?
Phew, these rules for a Euro place sure confuse me. will we get one if we finish sixth and Bonnie Tyler does well in the song contest?
Only askin like!
Well. We in Europe or not? Blue Lee
16 May 2013 10:29:55
Philipp Hosiner from rapid vienna
he is 24 yr old striker from austria he has scored 40 goals and got 9 assists in 44 games this yr and is reportedly available for under 2 mil
am not saying we r remotly linked to him am just sayin we should b lookin to bring players like him in for that price and spend the rest of the money we have available on some other young gems to replace our ageing squad
Erm, we don't have a manager. Can you see boys pen Bill signing players for us?, I can't!
Clearly I don't mean right now am talkin about whoever comes in I don't want them to try and win fans over buy blowing our transfer budget on 1 big name signing then end up having to loan sum players to bolster the squad, we need cheap young players who r going to get better over next yr or 2 ready to take over from the likes of distan osman and the rest off the over 30s we have in the team, we need to look to the future now and add to our impressive youngsters like duffy lundstrum barkly long kennedy pennington garbut and green and think how good our team could become over the next 10 yrs if the new manager brings these players threw and let's the fullfill the potential
the future is bright for the blues!
16 May 2013 12:28:01
Scared to say anything on here anymore Johny in case you get slammed by one of the sarcastic persons we have posting.
Second poster he was clearly only talking about the striker which you would have understood if you read the original whole post
You wonder why some people come on these rumour sites, when u post your own opinion and don't state that your ITK or any crap like that they still find somethin to moan about!
some tools on here sometime degs
Utterly pointless post. Devoid of any sense!
May I speculate?
How about a fella called Messi coming to GP?
Heard his father in law fought in the Falklands and took one of Bill's nephews as a POW.
Anyway, Bill's nephew developed Stockholm Syndrome and became very friendly and over-reliant on Messi's father in law.
He invited him over to Goodison once the war was over where he met Bill and they developed a firm and life-long friendship.
Messi's father in law then made Bill a promise that his daughter's husband would come to play for Everton as a thank you to Bill for having his sister's boy captured in the Falklands and thus meeting this Argie fella.
Yes, it's fantasy cooked up in someone's head and serves no purpose for healthy debate
16 May 2013 10:22:46
just heard rafa benitez is on the short list. I think we need an experienced manager to keep this club in the top 6.
steve mcclaren?
rafa?
martin oneil?
di matteo?
roy keane?
McClaren, O Neill, Roy Keane?! Are you serious? RW
Mark Hughes
Bryan Robson
Steve Bruce
Darren Ferguson
One of the worst shorlists av seen all been sacked in recent times, il pass
It's very difficult to tell if someone is taking the wee wee when they just make a list but, for God's sake, this must be a wind up! Why not just go the whole hog & add :-
Ron Atkinson
Mark Lawrenson
Mike Walker
David Brent
Mike Bassett
Captain Peacock
Personally, I'll trust in Bill, &, whoever it is, (even if it's Benitez!), they'll be the manager of EFC so they will get my support & encouragement unless they prove they don't deserve it.
Tezza:
How you missed out Korky the Cat (not to mention Jiminy Cricket ) well,
It defies all logic?
In fact my flabber has been well and truly gasted.
Blue247
16 May 2013 10:06:15
alright blues. just a quick one
say the league finished
utd
city
chelsea
arsenal
spurs
everton
reds
and so on.
UTD, City, Chelsea and Arsenal qualify for CL?
Spurs Europa league along with wigan and swansea. that's only 3 places. does that mean we can get into europa league with 6th because chelsea won it or not?
TezzaBlueNose
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH
Please Ed make this the last on this subject :-)
How many times does it need saying EVERTON will not be in EUROPE for finishing 6th END OF
dont want europe anyway can't even muster a fkn win in any domestic cups let alone fkn europe
Chelski should be forced to defend the Europa League as they were with the CL, after they finished SIXTH.
LMFAO Great post re Chels staying in the Europa League! Brilliant! I'm of the opinion that they shouldn't even have been in it. Why should teams who under-perform in the Champs League get a second bite of the cherry? Once they're eliminated from the Champs League, that should be it. No more Europe. BlueTone
16 May 2013 09:41:53
if you want safe hands and a few trophies then get rafa in. kop would not like it. all those trophies with blue efc ribbons on. wake up lads he's one of top managers in the world and he lives very close to efc and he's free and available. he's only chance we have so come on think about it.
Any Evertionian that wants Rafa should give their head a wobble!
He is an ex dirty kopite that once said we are a small club, that aside, he is a cheque book manager, look at how much money he spent at the reds, If DM had spent just 25% of what Rafa did at the reds, he would of won us the league!
DON'T WANT RAFA BENEATHUS!
16 May 2013 09:26:02
Good morning blues or maybe not Lennon is favourite with today.
Lennon 9/4 doesn't excite me
Martinez 3/1 good choice yes doubts about his defence and record but Brenda didn't have great record with Swansea but doing better with better players. In my top 3
Stubbs 7/1 inexperience need a old head with could be good no2
Poyet 10/1 unproven in premier league to much of a risk
Mackay 20/1 unproven in premier league risky
Pereira 25/1 Good credentials no premier league experience personally in my top 3
Laudrup 40/1 only had 1 good season and £10m release to much with not enough experience
Benitez 40/1 best CV out of everyone but can he work with small budget and would he come with his connections with Liverpool and would we accept him. In my top 3
All other candidates are either has beens or in experienced and would need assistance from a director of football.
So either a manager who plays attractive football with premier league experience who can work with low budget.
A manager with good credentials but unproven in premier league and a bit of a unknown.
Or a manager with experience who would probably be everyone's no1 choice if it wasn't for his past comments and being a former LFC manager.
So I ask the question to all blues yes or no could you move on and accept Rafa as our manager because whoever takes charge needs our full backing?
BK lol
16 May 2013 11:10:38
its stubbs! board have told him to sell our best players to cut debt, no one c
Iii
omeing in! lump it and u
move on
Managers don't need to have prem experience. Saf, Wenger and Moyes didn't before they were appointed
But the teams they inherited were not in the same league as they are today. Perhaps with the exception of Arsenal who were competing at the top prior to Wenger getting the job, the clubs were sleeping giants when they took over and the risk of appointing a manager without PL experience then, was less of a risk as it is now. All three clubs are now at a different level. Everton regularly are in the top 6 or 7. How would Martinez, Hughes, Mackay, Poyet, Stubbs or even Big Dunc move us on to the next level or at least maintain a top 6 or 7 finish? If Stubbs or Dunc are being considered, surely it should only be as 1st team coach or Asst Manager? There is only one and Rafa for me I'm afraid. BlueTone
16 May 2013 09:11:18
Just heard the carrager interview from last night and all I can say as a blues fan is he is a classy man.
And yes i'm a blue
16 May 2013 09:10:54
I would swap Rooney for felli + 5m anyday.
Sonny.
16 May 2013 07:48:54
I think the only way you can say he hasn't fulfilled his potential is in an England shirt. Club wise he has won everything going and is the top scorer in fergusons time at united (he's had some steady players in that time too). He would be an amazing signing and might be the type of player who can make a difference to us in terms of top four. Unfortunately I think money will be the issue!
Sheffield blue
16 May 2013 07:43:06
With the extra tv money is it possible bill could use the money to clear the clubs debt, making us a more attractive proposition to buyers? Might not satisfy everyone short term but might allow us to move forward long term?
Sheffield blue
16 May 2013 10:47:22
Remember he said we were a small club, plus he would want £100,0000 to spend like he did over the road.
I'd think he'd like more than £1m to spend. I'd guess he'd want at least £10m but can't be certain on that.
16 May 2013 07:29:25
If Rafa had never managed Liverpool I think he would be no. 1 choice to take over. Are we being foolish ruling him out just because he used to manage the reds****. He is desperate to get back to Merseyside. His wife loves the area as does he. He's proven, successful, experienced, wins trophies with average teams. I think he has to be considered.
16 May 2013 02:59:20
Without any malice, please do not let martinez, anywhere near our club, if his chairman thinks he is so wonderful, let us not deprive him of his manager, and, when he has done a wolves, in around a year time, we can go back and ask him if is still as happy.
16 May 2013 01:25:12
Is it just me or would anyone else like to see the Porto manager Vitor Pereira, he would bring that European flair we have lacked, and maybe could bring 2 or 3 new faces with him, maybe RM Kelvin (20yo), LB Alex Sandro (23yo) and if Felliani goes maybe Joao Moutinho to replace him, just a though guys,
RossyBlue!
16 May 2013 00:20:24
The winners of the 2012-13 UEFA Europa League are given an additional entry as title holders if they do not qualify for the 2013-14 UEFA Champions League or Europa League through domestic performance. However, this additional entry is not necessary for the 2013-14 UEFA Europa League as the title holders (Chelsea) are guaranteed to qualify for the Champions League or Europa League through their domestic performance. So, England will have three clubs in the 2013-14 UEFA Europa League: Swansea City, Wigan Athletic, and whoever finishes fifth in the Premier League (either Arsenal or Tottenham Hotspur). Tottenham Hotspur could finish on level points with Chelsea, but Chelsea's goal difference is currently sixteen better than theirs. Finishing sixth this season - as Everton will do - does not qualify for the UEFA Europa League.
Yes, but what if wigan decide to not take part in europa due to being relegated, then what happens to that spot?
Dosent make sence should be a strange place. What has happen to league positions? That's what you do over a season
16 May 2013 00:11:01
UEFA's Respect Fair Play ranking, based on all UEFA competition matches played at both club and national team level, from 1 May 2012 to 30 April 2013, has been won by Sweden.
Winners Sweden, second-placed Norway and third-placed Finland will each be granted one additional slot to the first qualifying round of the 2013/14 UEFA Europa League.
16 May 2013 00:06:22
Give me a succesful manager with a winning ambitious mentality, who may be a bit of a b@#tard with the media anyday! I want success and a hunger for trophys over a "love in" with the daily rags! Anyhow, since when have Everton ever been the media darlings of late?! TEAM PEREIRA
Well said mate. Team Pereira too!